stillmotion Posted October 22, 2017 Report Posted October 22, 2017 https://sports.yahoo.com/along-terrible-play-deshone-kizers-nightlife-now-scrutinized-213754011.html I guess he channeled his inner Johnny. But christ, it's a friday and you have a game Sunday? He was verified out till bar close past 1:30am drinking..... I bet Kessler didn't, I bet Hogan didn't, and I bet Manning as a rookie didn't. It isn't bad enough we're practically giving him the job this year, but then he does this?
D Bone Posted October 22, 2017 Report Posted October 22, 2017 Hopefully dude is better at picking up the ladies than he is at playing QB.
Tacosman Posted October 22, 2017 Report Posted October 22, 2017 it doesnt really matter who hue goes with at qb....all three suck. I would probably stick with Kizer
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 22, 2017 Report Posted October 22, 2017 You have to be kidding me. Kessler is way better, and that isn't saying much.
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 22, 2017 Report Posted October 22, 2017 45 minutes ago, stillmotion said: https://sports.yahoo.com/along-terrible-play-deshone-kizers-nightlife-now-scrutinized-213754011.html I guess he channeled his inner Johnny. But christ, it's a friday and you have a game Sunday? He was verified out till bar close past 1:30am drinking..... I bet Kessler didn't, I bet Hogan didn't, and I bet Manning as a rookie didn't. It isn't bad enough we're practically giving him the job this year, but then he does this? Him and Johnny be laying some pipe, know what I'm saying?
Clevfan4life Posted October 22, 2017 Report Posted October 22, 2017 Yeah im done with this kid after hearing this. The week after u get benched and two days after the coach announces u get ur job back, ur out drinking? God dam stay at home play Shmucking xbox, invite some football groupies over....whatever. Just dont be out. What dumbass kid watched the manziel fiasco here and diesnt get it?
stillmotion Posted October 22, 2017 Author Report Posted October 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: Yeah im done with this kid after hearing this. The week after u get benched and two days after the coach announces u get ur job back, ur out drinking? God dam stay at home play Shmucking xbox, invite some football groupies over....whatever. Just dont be out. What dumbass kid watched the manziel fiasco here and diesnt get it? i hate saying it early, and maybe some people will hate me for it, but I'm completely off the Kizer train.... I don't think he's the answer. I understand it was an experiment, but at this time, let him sit and learn and become a backup. Hue said our goal is to win every week, and if players make mistakes or turn the ball over, there's other players that can play. He's clearly frustrated, and probably upset Kizer not only played bad, but also got drunk friday night. How's a 21 year old who parties Friday before a Sunday morning game going to lead our men to victory? Hogan, and Kessler clearly want the job more. Pick one of them, just one of the three and stick with them. No more "I hope Kizer is the starter at the end of the year" from Hue..... I hate that Sheet. Here's what I think. Hue liked Watson and Wentz, the FO didn't. They liked Kizer, although Hue picked Kessler last year. They also pressured Hue to start Kizer. They had to of, to evaluate where he stands and his potential. The flip flopping is discrediting every idea I had of the FO's "plan" for the QB position.
D Bone Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, stillmotion said: The flip flopping is discrediting every idea I had of the FO's "plan" for the QB position. +10000000000 Unless their plan all along is this offseason to pay Kirk Cousins what ever it takes to get him, then it's painfully obvious they don't have the slightest clue of what they're doing..... and the cohesion between the coaching staff and FO is nonexistent. I don't know who will get the first bullet (probably the head coach I would guess) but that bullet has already been sent downrange.
Clevfan4life Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 These wr's arent bringing ANY free agent qb here next year. No chance. Cousins isnt coming here to bounce balls off clev browns wr's actual ballsacks
hx214 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 Meh, while I don't think the kid is to smart, they said the tape was at 1:30am. What time do teams show up on Saturdays? 11? Noon? Not really a late night. Also didn't say if he was drinking so who knows. Didn't have a beer in his hand and a sparkler in his mouth did he? Either way, not the smartest thing to do, but it was Friday night not Saturday night
calfoxwc Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 I thought by now Kizer would show SOME kind of improvement, but this last game was worse than pitiful.I think he just doesn't see it - timing, accuracy, progressions.....zilch. If I had to do a mock draft right now,Josh Allen would be my #1 pick of the draft - even at first overall. My second pick would be a wr... Kirk... or Ridley. After that, who knows ...but three wr's in the draft might be necessary. And, Hue runs an undisciplined offense, players like britt, coleman, kizer, lewis, higgins...don't care to play football, they just want a paycheck, and Hue apparently doesn't want to see it, and won't hammer down on players who don't care to win. Williams is a genuine wr... The offensive line, TE's, and rb's deserve a hell of a lot better than the qbs and wr's that are making this offense a farce. So do all the fans. If Williams is named Interim HC tomorrow, I won't be a bit surprised. Nothing is going to improve while the offensive coaches allow some players to fart around on and off the field. I would have already had Kenny Britt out the door for his lackluster behavior on the field. Kizer is struggling, and stayed out partying til 1 AM Friday night? I'll bet Trubisky and Wentz weren't out partying til 1 AM.
Tour2ma Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 Two ages I drank more than any other time of my life... 16 and 21. Isn't Kizer 21? It's not a good look... I get it... Optics! But I ain't off his train... not with 9 games to go. And as Taco pointed out, you stick with Kizer. The only choice with promise...
Tour2ma Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 Just now, calfoxwc said: I thought by now Kizer would show SOME kind of improvement, but this last game was worse than pitiful. Honestly, cal, it wasn't... not even close to his worst showing... not close to his Cinci outing.
D Bone Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 22 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: These wr's arent bringing ANY free agent qb here next year. No chance. Cousins isnt coming here to bounce balls off clev browns wr's actual ballsacks Time, and more importantly - money, will tell.........
calfoxwc Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Tour2ma said: Honestly, cal, it wasn't... not even close to his worst showing... not close to his Cinci outing. I'll tell you how bad it is... I haven't even watched the game yet. I was at the sold flip house digging for a second septic tank, then we painted the front brick on the other flip house, and I only heard the last 8 minutes. Or, I'd be more irate... LOL Oh, and I have to get a couple of truckloads of firewood into the barn, and other stuff... may be working an all nighter because I didn't get to do it over this weekend, and it's supposed to rain in the morning.
Tour2ma Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 1 minute ago, calfoxwc said: I'll tell you how bad it is... I haven't even watched the game yet. I was at the sold flip house digging for a second septic tank, then we painted the front brick on the other flip house, and I only heard the last 8 minutes. Or, I'd be more irate... LOL Oh, and I have to get a couple of truckloads of firewood into the barn, and other stuff... may be working an all nighter because I didn't get to do it over this weekend, and it's supposed to rain in the morning. lol... well... that'll teach you for getting your knee fixed...
Dutch Oven Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 I love the "the players are undisciplined under Hue so Williams should be the HC" narrative. Hard-nose Williams's players were jumping offsides all freakin' day today.
jcam222 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Clevfan4life said: These wr's arent bringing ANY free agent qb here next year. No chance. Cousins isnt coming here to bounce balls off clev browns wr's actual ballsacks I disagree. If we can get Cousins via free agency our QB is solidified for years. With the draft assets we have left then we can make dramatic progress. Barkley for sure. WR has several good FA's (Robinson and Landry) or trade a pick for a stud. No more scratch offs, buy a known stud QB.
D Bone Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, jcam222 said: No more scratch offs, buy a known stud QB. Football Gods - Please hear this....... Amen
Ghoolie Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 These kind of stories are a bit silly, honestly. If Kizer was normally an accurate passer and astute decision maker, and if his partying caused today's performance to be totally crappy then I could see blasting him. But his play today was pretty much in line with how he normally plays, In all honesty, he is a free man, not a slave, not a school child, plenty of people party on the weekend and are ready to go come work time. Given he is stinking up the place, I understand how many fans will be appalled by his partying, but people, he's a 21 year old sports celebrity, not a nun. This is what kids do. Had he performed well this wouldn't even be an issue. I don't think his drinking had anything to do with anything. He had plenty of time to sleep it off and get rested. I would have left the kid in the game. The game was still manageable and winnable. This is a shortcoming of Hue. Quit wiping Kizers snotz, let him dig himself out. I would have left him in. Putting Kessler in, to me, made no sense.
wargograw Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, stillmotion said: Pick one of them, just one of the three and stick with them. And what if that’s Kizer? 56 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: I'll tell you how bad it is... I haven't even watched the game yet. I was at the sold flip house digging for a second septic tank, then we painted the front brick on the other flip house, and I only heard the last 8 minutes. Or, I'd be more irate... LOL Oh, and I have to get a couple of truckloads of firewood into the barn, and other stuff... may be working an all nighter because I didn't get to do it over this weekend, and it's supposed to rain in the morning. Then how can you say this was Kizer’s worst game?
stillmotion Posted October 23, 2017 Author Report Posted October 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, Ghoolie said: Had he performed well this wouldn't even be an issue. But he didn't perform well, and that's precisely why I don't like it. I get what you're saying, but Hue seems frustrated with him and yanked him for freaking Kessler. That speaks volumes of uncertainty. Hue is in panic mode and trying to win, and we don't have 2-3 years to develop Kizer which is what I predicted we needed. Kessler his rookie season was LIGHT YEARS better than Kizer.
stillmotion Posted October 23, 2017 Author Report Posted October 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, wargograw said: And what if that’s Kizer? 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: Then stick with him and don't yank him. That is pathetic. If he yanks Kizer at halftime the next three Browns games how would you feel about that situation?
stillmotion Posted October 23, 2017 Author Report Posted October 23, 2017 Think about this..... RGIII won our last game. Johnny won our second-last. If the goal is WINNING, then......... ?
Westside Steve Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 It was 1:30. It was Friday night not Saturday night. Who cares? WSS
wargograw Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, stillmotion said: Then stick with him and don't yank him. That is pathetic. If he yanks Kizer at halftime the next three Browns games how would you feel about that situation? I agree it’s pathetic. Bad. I already feel bad. Should have been sticking with Kizer all along.
D Bone Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, wargograw said: I agree it’s pathetic. Bad. I already feel bad. Should have been sticking with Kizer all along. I was shocked today when the camera panned to Kess coming out to play...... Hue is pushing panic button after panic button, but none of them are actually connected to anything.
Dutch Oven Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 Totally disagree. You can't have one player keep sabotaging the offense over and over in the same way. How many points has Kizer left on the board lately by making ridiculous mistakes in the redzone? I know what many of you will say, that he's the only QB on the team that could have a future as a viable starter (and I get it) but the rest of the team deserves someone who won't make such soul-sucking mistakes on the regular.
D Bone Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Totally disagree. You can't have one player keep sabotaging the offense over and over in the same way. How many points has Kizer left on the board lately by making ridiculous mistakes in the redzone? I know what many of you will say, that he's the only QB on the team that could have a future as a viable starter (and I get it) but the rest of the team deserves someone who won't make such soul-sucking mistakes on the regular. I, and I'm sure a lot of his players, just can't get a grip on what Hue is trying to do. Win today? Sacrifice today at the benefit of tomorrow? I just don't know, and I'm convinced that he doesn't even know.
Dutch Oven Posted October 23, 2017 Report Posted October 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, D Bone said: I, and I'm sure a lot of his players, just can't get a grip on what Hue is trying to do. Win today? Sacrifice today at the benefit of tomorrow? I just don't know, and I'm convinced that he doesn't even know. You and me both. I somewhat get the impression that Hue would have loved to keep Kizer on the bench for the start of the season, maybe until the bye week, but the other QBs on the roster didn't cooperate. Kessler and Osweiler did everything they could NOT to be named the starter in training camp/preseason, and while Hogan played decently when thrown into the fray, he looked laughably bad when given the shot as a starter.
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