Bob806 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, jrb12711 said: An uncatchable ball and minimal contact is pass interference, but a guy literally blocking a man and stopping his route isn't. Cool. Every freaking week. Browns got hosed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: I think they were calling it before the ball was even thrown. I thought the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, tinythinker said: 23-16, Browns trail heading into the fourth. Will they pull it out? Sadly, no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: I think they were calling it before the ball was even thrown. If it's before the throw that's one thing. But to call PI they have to consider if the pass was uncatchable, that's their job. I know you're probably not disagreeing but the inconsistentcy has been awful. 3 minutes ago, Tacosman said: bad PI call, but good no call on ours. The ball wasnt quite in the air yet and was within 5 yards from LOS and there was no holding/grabbing So impeding a guys route by literally running into him with arms extended isn't a penalty? Guess I've been learning football different than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Now we have David N dropping a pass that was in his damn hands, WTF, we are shooting ourselves, We had a decent first half and now we are falling apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, Tacosman said: 31 white guys, most all sitting at home now playing play station who would be willing to work for nfl min and are certainly better than zane, and wtf is our front office doing?? I'm sure that the BROWNS are thinking about getting a kicker.....I hope. (the nfl minimum wage) Yrs. 2017 2018 2019 0 $465,000 $480,000 $495,000 1 $540,000 $555,000 $570,000 2 $615,000 $630,000 $645,000 3 $690,000 $705,000 $720,000 4-6 $775,000 $790,000 $805,000 7-9 $900,000 $915,000 $930,000 10+ $1,000,000 $1,015,000 $1,030,000 VETERAN MINIMUM BENEFITS When qualified, a player with four (4) or more years of NFL experience can earn his total minimum salary, but have a cap figure that reflects two years of experience – or in 2017, $615,000. The contract must be for only one year, and must not contain combined bonus money (signing, roster, workout) that exceeds $80,000. For instance, let’s pretend Ryan Fitzpatrick re-signs with the Buffalo Bills in 2017 on a 1 year, minimum salary contract. With 10+ years of experience, he’ll be slotted for a $1,000,000 base salary. With four or more years of experience (11), and a 1 year contract, Fitzpatrick qualifies for the cap hit benefit. His 2017 cap figure with the Bills would be $615,000 Had he received a bonus (signing, roster, workout) up to the maximum $80,000, he would have received a total $1.08M contract, with a $1M base salary, an $80,000 signing bonus, and a cap figure of $695,0000 (615+80). With plenty of veterans being released, or not signed back thus far in 2017, the use of the Minimum Salary Benefit Rule becomes useful both for older players looking for jobs, and teams looking to minimize their cap dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, jrb12711 said: So impeding a guys route by literally running into him with arms extended isn't a penalty? Guess I've been learning football different than you. if it's short of 5 yards from the LOS and it's not a hold/grab/tug whatever and the ball isn't in the air, no it's not a penalty. You can make a contact with a reciever like that. The rules are very clear on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinythinker Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Oh no, Browns D trying to deal with a 3rd and long... Big catch for Vikings... Personal foul, roughing the passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Tacosman said: if it's short of 5 yards from the LOS and it's not a hold/grab/tug whatever and the ball isn't in the air, no it's not a penalty. You can make a contact with a reciever like that. The rules are very clear on that. Unless the ball is thrown to said receiver and the contact impedes his ability to catch the ball. The rules are even more clear on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, Tacosman said: 31 white guys, most all sitting at home now playing play station who would be willing to work for nfl min and are certainly better than zane, and wtf is our front office doing?? What's white got to do with it? You must be a minority cuz me saying something like that I'd get labeled racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 god thats an awful play by taylor.....no need at all. 45 or whatever yard penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinythinker Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Next throw, Browns' Taylor called for pass interference. Yeah, Vikes are gonna score again real fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinythinker Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Two flags on the red zone pass by the Vikings... Holding, automatic first down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Refs are taking over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinythinker Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Vikings TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Shmuck the Browns 0-8, 1-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, jrb12711 said: Unless the ball is thrown to said receiver and the contact impedes his ability to catch the ball. The rules are even more clear on that. *if* the ball is in the air. It wasn't. you are making rules up. It cant be pass interference because the ball wasnt thrown yet. Thats where you 'impedes' argument comes in. You can't call PI on a ball that hasnt been thrown. And it cant be illegal contact(what I guess you are arguing for) because the contact was within 5 yards. And it can't be defensive holding because there was no hold. Please show me this rule about 'impedes ability to catch the ball' before the ball is thrown because it doesnt exist and thats why you can't cite it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 This is far from over, The Viks are going to get 2 more touchdowns, The refs will be sure of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 We're 0 - 8 because of Haslam, not the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawg2fan Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 16 minutes ago, BaconHound said: Njoku stinks, thank god he has good measureables He stinks because the defender got his hands between him and the ball? Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 26 minutes ago, medicineman said: Who thought he was better than Parky or whatever his name was? You mean Cody Parkey, kicking for the Fins? Yeah, he’s currently 8 out 9 on FG’s on the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Just now, Tacosman said: *if* the ball is in the air. It wasn't. you are making rules up. It cant be pass interference because the ball wasnt thrown yet. Thats where you 'impedes' argument comes in. You can't call PI on a ball that hasnt been thrown. And it cant be illegal contact(what I guess you are arguing for) because the contact was within 5 yards. And it can't be defensive holding because there was no hold. Please show me this rule about 'impedes ability to catch the ball' before the ball is thrown because it doesnt exist and thats why you can't cite it. The ball was literally going over the head of the guys when we ran into him. Are you watching the game? Trent green said that was a missed call, because it was. Here you go: http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/passinterference go ahead and take time to read it. Or do you need more citation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tacosman said: *if* the ball is in the air. It wasn't. you are making rules up. It cant be pass interference because the ball wasnt thrown yet. Thats where you 'impedes' argument comes in. You can't call PI on a ball that hasnt been thrown. And it cant be illegal contact(what I guess you are arguing for) because the contact was within 5 yards. And it can't be defensive holding because there was no hold. Please show me this rule about 'impedes ability to catch the ball' before the ball is thrown because it doesnt exist and thats why you can't cite it. It really is a moot point since Treggs of Society was wide open and Kizer didn't see it and if he did they would've called the obvious pick Devalve set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinythinker Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 So... what? 33-19 final score? 40-23? Or the Browns make it close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I swear the refs love to make it harder for us and to kick us when we are down. PI on like what 3 or 4 plays now, then a roughing the passer? Give me a break When will they start giving us calls? They never call PI when it happens on us, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, dawg2fan said: He stinks because the defender got his hands between him and the ball? Wow! No he stinks because he is a first round project who doesn't win 50/50 battles or make routine catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: You mean Cody Parkey, kicking for the Fins? Yeah, he’s currently 8 out 9 on FG’s on the year. And he is better than what we have. We had him but kept a kicker who can't kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns1216 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 now we see what the Browns are made of, plenty of time on the clock to get 2 TDs for any decent NFL team. Why does scoring 2 TDs seem so insurmountable for the Browns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Here comes another Vik td Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 we were winning i finally turned the game on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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