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I don't get it. What exactly is it that makes Hue a great coach? Clock management? QB selection? QB mentoring? Dee Haslam's bull? We should have done the continuity thing with a real football coach. This guy is worse than all the others we had all rolled into one.  He should jump in the lake like a e promised but take Stosh the Pud with him and don't come back. Analytics say...worst in Browns history and approaching worst in NFL history. Trust the process my butt!

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2 hours ago, flyingfooldoug said:

I don't get it. What exactly is it that makes Hue a great coach? Clock management? QB selection? QB mentoring? Dee Haslam's bull? We should have done the continuity thing with a real football coach. This guy is worse than all the others we had all rolled into one.  He should jump in the lake like a e promised but take Stosh the Pud with him and don't come back. Analytics say...worst in Browns history and approaching worst in NFL history. Trust the process my butt!

Look he's a terrific salesman. You can't say he didn't move a lot of latex for Vandalay Industries, right?

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5 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

I heard he's also a Marine Biologist.  

No that would be Submarine Biologist because he takes everything down with him when he's working his magic.:P

EDIT: But of course he is mostly good at pretending to be an Architect (of great FB teams):D

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Sunday’s life of a Browns’ fan: 9:30 am: Browns lose in London. 1 pm: Carson Wentz. 4 pm: Deshaun Watson. Nightcap: Steelers win.

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11 hours ago, Ghoolie said:

Belichik is a different man than Hue is. Sashit and DePudDuster would be fetching his coffee. They would be drafting who he told them to draft. Just as it is in NE, the FO does their research but they don't feed him who they want. He calls those shots. Hue does not have that kind of chutzpah. Not a valid comparison. If Bill B was hired instead of Black Uncle Fester, we owuld have a lot of different players on this team, and of course we wouldn't be so lousy.

 

Well, the plan may very well be to bring in someone at the end of the year. who will have that kind of chutzpah.

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4 hours ago, flyingfooldoug said:

I never did like non football people calling the shots

What shots, exactly?

Not re-signing Pryor was GOOD.  Britt was viewed as a solid but unspectacular signing this past season.

Not re-signing Mitch was GOOD.  [Shon Jackson > schwartz in the total of run+pass]

Signing OL's this offseason that don't get our QB Luck'd was GOOD.

Getting the extra second while kicking the tires of Ostrich was GOOD -- in fact, it was so good it was[is still] viewed as a revolutionary outside-the-box "first".

 

There is no silver bullet to fixing the problems on the Browns team.. and not even one or two players from the OSU defense will "fix" it.

[For our out-of-state board members, the OSU defense is nicknamed "the silver bullets"]

 

First question: What, precisely, is your desired goal?  If your actual objective is on-field success then you need to look at a much more granular level to define that "success."

Is it "stopping the run?" If so then Cleveland is leading the league at 2.9 YPA. Couldn't say that last year - or any year of any previous organization.

Is it "stopping the pass"? Here we're 24th in YPA.. To nobody's surprise, this could be improved

Is it "yards per rush attempted?" If so then Cleveland defines the league average at 4.1 -- this may not be success but it's not failure.

Is it "total yards passing" ? Cleveland is 19th  -- sure, improve this, and it shocks nobody that NE is #1 in only this team stat.

Is it "Yards per passing attempt" ? Here we're in the bottom quartile at 30th.

 

So, it seems the areas we need to work on are pass D and pass O.  That's much more precise than "EVERYONE GO DIE IN A FIRE NOW KTHXBAI"

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29 minutes ago, Unsympathetic said:

What shots, exactly?

Not re-signing Pryor was GOOD.  Britt was viewed as a solid but unspectacular signing this past season.

Not re-signing Mitch was GOOD.  [Shon Jackson > schwartz in the total of run+pass]

Signing OL's this offseason that don't get our QB Luck'd was GOOD.

Getting the extra second while kicking the tires of Ostrich was GOOD -- in fact, it was so good it was[is still] viewed as a revolutionary outside-the-box "first".

 

There is no silver bullet to fixing the problems on the Browns team.. and not even one or two players from the OSU defense will "fix" it.

[For our out-of-state board members, the OSU defense is nicknamed "the silver bullets"]

 

First question: What, precisely, is your desired goal?  If your actual objective is on-field success then you need to look at a much more granular level to define that "success."

Is it "stopping the run?" If so then Cleveland is leading the league at 2.9 YPA. Couldn't say that last year - or any year of any previous organization.

Is it "stopping the pass"? Here we're 24th in YPA.. To nobody's surprise, this could be improved

Is it "yards per rush attempted?" If so then Cleveland defines the league average at 4.1 -- this may not be success but it's not failure.

Is it "total yards passing" ? Cleveland is 19th  -- sure, improve this, and it shocks nobody that NE is #1 in only this team stat.

Is it "Yards per passing attempt" ? Here we're in the bottom quartile at 30th.

 

So, it seems the areas we need to work on are pass D and pass O.  That's much more precise than "EVERYONE GO DIE IN A FIRE NOW KTHXBAI"

Here's the only stat that matters. . .1-23.

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30 minutes ago, Unsympathetic said:

What shots, exactly?

Not re-signing Pryor was GOOD.  Britt was viewed as a solid but unspectacular signing this past season.

Not re-signing Mitch was GOOD.  [Shon Jackson > schwartz in the total of run+pass]

Signing OL's this offseason that don't get our QB Luck'd was GOOD.

Getting the extra second while kicking the tires of Ostrich was GOOD -- in fact, it was so good it was[is still] viewed as a revolutionary outside-the-box "first".

 

There is no silver bullet to fixing the problems on the Browns team.. and not even one or two players from the OSU defense will "fix" it.

[For our out-of-state board members, the OSU defense is nicknamed "the silver bullets"]

 

First question: What, precisely, is your desired goal?  If your actual objective is on-field success then you need to look at a much more granular level to define that "success."

Is it "stopping the run?" If so then Cleveland is leading the league at 2.9 YPA. Couldn't say that last year - or any year of any previous organization.

Is it "stopping the pass"? Here we're 24th in YPA.. To nobody's surprise, this could be improved

Is it "yards per rush attempted?" If so then Cleveland defines the league average at 4.1 -- this may not be success but it's not failure.

Is it "total yards passing" ? Cleveland is 19th  -- sure, improve this, and it shocks nobody that NE is #1 in only this team stat.

Is it "Yards per passing attempt" ? Here we're in the bottom quartile at 30th.

 

So, it seems the areas we need to work on are pass D and pass O.  That's much more precise than "EVERYONE GO DIE IN A FIRE NOW KTHXBAI"

Where you been man? We done passed on every blue chip player the past two drafts for beans. But we were told that they're magic. Yes, football people making football decisions and get this stench of a team out a my back yard. It's shameful what the Haslam's are doing to a football rich area.

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17 minutes ago, nickers said:

The Haslams have brought nothing but embarrassment to this once proud franchise...

So it would seem.  As an owner JH et al have just 2 jobs:  write the checks (after depositing the revenue checks)....and hire the right person to run your organization.   You can't fault JH for the former.....but, with the latter.....goodness.   How many Top Men has JH had here so far since buying the team?

From what I can tell, here is the history of it:

JH bought the team in August 2012.

He brought on Joe Banner that same month as Club President (Aug. 2012)

He allowed Holmgren and Heckert to stay on until the end of that year....when they were aufed.

Then Banner brought in Mike Lombardi in Feb. 2013.

Those two lasted only another year.   They were aufed in January 2014.

Where they brought in Ray Farmer as GM, and Alex Scheiner as club President...and they brought in Pettine.

In January 2016  both Farmer and Pettine were out. Somewhere in there Scheiner was also out.

Sachi Brown was in as Executive VP of Football Operations, Paul DePodesta as "chief strategy officer", and Andrew Berry as VP of Personell.

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Here is the entire non coach/player personell of the Cleveland Browns:

MANAGEMENT
Jimmy Haslam Owner
Dee Haslam Owner
Sashi Brown Executive Vice President, Football Operations
Paul DePodesta Chief Strategy Officer
David A. Jenkins Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer
Mike Nikolaus Chief Human Resources Officer
Brent Stehlik Executive Vice President, Chief Revenue Officer
Jim Brown Special Advisor
Chris Cooper Director, Football Administration
Ted Tywang Director, Legal Affairs
Katie Noble-Murphy Director, Ownership Operations
Will Black Coordinator, Ownership Operations
Donna Podolak Executive Assistant
Marikka Pretz-Anderson Manager, Legal Affairs
Theresa Dunham Executive Assistant
Cari Savage Executive Assistant
 
PLAYER PERSONNEL
Andrew Berry Vice President, Player Personnel
Ken Kovash Vice President, Player Personnel
Ryan Grigson Senior Personnel Executive
Kevin Meers Director, Research and Strategy
Chisom Opara Director, Player Personnel
Bobby Vega Director, College Scouting
Dan Saganey Director, Pro Scouting
Mike Cetta Director, Scouting
Glenn Cook Assistant Director, Scouting
Andrew Healy Senior Strategist, Player Personnel
Dave Giuliani Football Research Analyst
Aditya Krishnan Football Research Analyst
Venessa Hutchinson Coordinator, Football Operations & Personnel
Adam Al-Khayyal Scout
Zach Ayers Scout
Zac Bocian Scout
Colton Chapple Scout
Sam DeLuca Scout
Scott Levin Scout
Gerald McCully Scout
Patrick Moore Scout
Marshall Oium Scout
Max Paulus Scout
Sam Fioroni Scouting Coordinator
Josh Cox College Scouting Assistant
Keegan Leyrer College Scouting Assistant
Scott DiBenedetto Scouting Assistant
Tosan Eyetsemitan Scouting Assistant
Branden Francis Scouting Assistant
Tyler Hamblin Scouting Assistant
Scott Kaniecki Scouting Assistant
Dax Nollenberger Scouting Assistant
Thomas Pack Scouting Assistant
Michael Romanella Scouting Assistant
Zach Wigmore Scouting Assistant
 
FOOTBALL SUPPORT
TRAINING & MEDICAL
Joe Sheehan Head Athletic Trainer
Andre Tucker  Assistant Head Athletic Trainer 
Anthony Trem Physical Therapist
Pat Rock Assistant Athletic Trainer
Gordon Williams Assistant Athletic Trainer

EQUIPMENT
Brad Melland Head Equipment Manager
Jeff Inderhees Assistant Equipment Manager
Jim McLaughlin Assistant Equipment Manager

PLAYER ENGAGEMENT
Ron Brewer Manager, Player Engagement

VIDEO
Rob Pavlas Video Director
Ricky Palmer Assistant Video Director
Ben Lawson Video Assistant
 
FOOTBALL OPERATIONS

FOOTBALL OPERATIONS
Phil Dangerfield  Vice President, Football Operations 
Simon Gelan Director, Football Operations
Bryant Swindle Coordinator, Football Operations

GROUNDS
Chris Powell Head Groundskeeper
Neal Pate Stadium Field Manager
Scott Springer Grounds Supervisor
Andrew Bossard Assistant Groundskeeper
Russell Horn Assistant Groundskeeper
Jeff Witt Assistant Groundskeeper

SECURITY
John Frain Director, Security
John Boykin Manager, Berea Security
James Payne Manager, Stadium Security
Lovelle Brown Stadium Security Officer
Bill Davis Stadium Security Officer
Joseph Mann Stadium Security Officer
Jonathan Patterson Stadium Security Officer
Michael Sims Stadium Security Officer
 
CLEVELAND BROWNS FOUNDATION
Renee Harvey Vice President, Cleveland Browns Foundation
Cecilia Kaltz Manager, Cleveland Browns Foundation
 
FAN AND BRAND DEVELOPMENT
Dave Freeman Senior Vice President, Marketing and Media
Jen Leister Manager, Marketing

CREATIVE SERVICES
Chris Modarelli Director, Creative Services
Mark Podolak Art Director
Greg Beutel Graphic Designer

DIGITAL MEDIA
Jeremy Zimmer Senior Director, Digital Media
Leah Archual Manager, Digital Media
Keely McKenzie Coordinator, Digital Design
Allie Raymond Coordinator, Social Media

CONTENT & PRODUCTION
Sara Kornokovich Director, Content & Production
Paul Taylor Supervising Producer, Content and Production
Jeff McDaniel Producer
Anthony Baucco Associate Producer
Nicholas Beesley Associate Producer
Rob Conroy Associate Producer
Andrew Gribble Senior Writer
Patrick Maks Staff Writer
Keith Mollohan Associate Producer

SCOREBOARD OPERATIONS
Kyle Millen Director, Scoreboard Operations
Rich Hanchette Motion Graphic Artist
Renee Arko Coordinator, Scoreboard Operations
Sean Olivier Coordinator, Scoreboard Operations

BROWNS RADIO DAILY
Nathan Zegura Senior Media Broadcaster

FAN EXPERIENCE & SPECIAL EVENTS
Carlos Oseguera Director, Fan Experience & Special Events
Corey Kinder Manager, Fan Experience & Special Events
Megan Rock Coordinator, Fan Experience & Special Events
Shelby O'Brien Coordinator, Fan Experience & Special Events
 
FINANCE & ACCOUNTING
Gregory Rush Vice President, Finance
Laurie Rice Controller
Debbie Kruszynski Manager, Travel & Compliance
Pamela Smith Assistant Controller
Sue Majewski Payroll Manager
 
BUSINESS ANALYTICS
David Giller Manager, Business Analytics
Joe Moeller Manager, Business Analytics
Linwood Jones Senior Application Developer/Data Architect
Erica Mangino Business Analyst
Sabina Skolnik Data Architect/Data Integrity Specialist
Mark Smith Sales and Marketing Systems Manager
 
ADMINISTRATION
Matt Srodek Manager, Berea Facilities
Chris Cola Coordinator, Berea Facilities
Carol Meier Receptionist
Casey Thompson Coordinator, Shipping & Receiving
Dee Vega Wellness Manager
 
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
Brandon Covert Director, Information Technology
Seth Hooker Director of Football IT
Jud Covert Support Services Manager
Brad DeAngelis Software Developer
Patrick Dorin IT Support Specialist
Paul Knopp IT Security Engineer
David Lowry Network Administrator
Jeff Patton Network Manager
 
COMMUNICATIONS
Peter John-Baptiste Vice President, Communications
Dan Murphy Senior Manager, Communications
Rob McBurnett Senior Manager, Communications
Mike Annarella Coordinator, Communications

ALUMNI
Kevin Mack Alumni Relations

COMMUNITY RELATIONS
Jenner Tekancic Vice President, Community Relations
Brittany Young Manager, Community Relations
Cariema Wood Coordinator, Community Relations & Alumni
 
CORPORATE PARTNERSHIPS
Randy Domain Vice President, Corporate Partnerships
Nick Frasco Senior Director, Corporate Partnerships & Suite Sales
Bridget Kakos Director, Partnership Activation
Kelly Carroll Senior Manager, Partnership Activation
Sean Othen Senior Manager, Corporate Partnerships
Vanessa Bryan-Bekono Manager, Partnership Activation
Lance Camden Manager, Corporate Partnerships
Brent DeCoster Manager, Corporate Partnerships
Joe Hamlin Manager, Partnership Activation
Jessica O’Rielly Manager, Digital and Media Sales
Lindsay Strauch Manager, Partnership Activation
Nicole Willis Manager, Corporate Partnerships
Cory Gilman Coordinator, Partnership Activation
Kaila Lockhart Coordinator, Partnership Activation
Audrey Medhurst Coordinator, Partnership Activation

SUITE SALES & SERVICE
Steve Korey Manager, Suite Sales
Sharon Smith Manager, Suiteholder Experience
Nick Batista Suite Sales Executive
Emma Ryan Coordinator, Suite Sales and Service
 
TICKET SALES & SERVICE
Bob Sivik Vice President, Ticket Sales & Service
Jess Brooks Sales Coordinator

MEMBERSHIP SERVICES
Taylor Laurer Director, Membership Services
Blake Adkins Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Taylor Adrian Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Tare Beaver Membership Services Representative, Club Members
Jessica Berkshire Membership Services Representative, Club Members
Connor Daugherty Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Marina Dieker Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Brian Gross Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Zayna Ibrahim Membership Services Representative, Premium Club Members
Maximo Meggitt Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Madelyn Rossler Membership Services Representative, Season Tickets
Brandon Schwartz Membership Services Representative, Premium Club Members

PREMIUM AND GROUP SALES
Nick McNeill Manager, Premium & Group Sales
Iman Warren Senior Group Account Executive
Austin Pavilack Premium Sales Representative
Miguel Pimentel Premium Sales Representative
Brad Postlewaite Premium Sales Representative
Joe Rizzo Premium Sales Representative
Briana Harris Group Account Executive
David Kodish Group Account Executive
Kelvin Long Group Account Executive
Thomas Mason Group Account Executive
Lauren Merkt Group Account Executive
Omari Robinson Group Account Executive

TICKET OPERATIONS 
Kacy Harmon Director, Ticket Operations
David Lee Senior Manager, Ticket Operations
Jason Decker Manager, Ticket Operations
Monica Lince Coordinator, Ticket Operations

SEASON TICKET SALES
Josh Young Director, Ticket Sales
Mike Judge Manager, Inside Sales & Recruiting
Kyle Burke Account Executive
Andrew Calangelo Account Executive
Maranda Hoffman Account Executive
Dave Howson Account Executive
Jake Jones Account Executive
Victoria Leahy Account Executive
Nick Luberger Account Executive
 
STADIUM OPERATIONS & MAINTENANCE

STADIUM OPERATIONS
Troy Brown Vice President, Stadium Operations
Brad Mohr Director, Stadium Operations
Mike Good Manager, Stadium Operations
Mike D'Angelo Coordinator, Stadium Operations
Clete Diener Coordinator, Stadium Operations
Hannah Mothersbaugh Coordinator, Guest Services

MAINTENANCE
Don Husted Director, Stadium Facilities
Bob Digney Engineer
Aeriel Garcia Stadium Maintenance
Bob Isgro Engineer
Marshall Morgan Stadium Maintenance
Jerry Ray Engineer
Kimer Rogers Engineer
Joshua Shur Engineer
Chris Stanley Stadium Maintenance
Eric Strick Engineer
Jennifer Lawlis Engineer
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FOOTBALL OPERATIONS
Phil  Rodney Dangerfield  Vice President, Football Operations 
Simon Gelan Director, Football Operations
Bryant Swindle

Coordinator, Football Operations

I noted the existence of these guys....yet they did not seem to be under Sachi's  Football Department.

Who ARE these guys...and what do they do?

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9 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Look he's a terrific salesman. You can't say he didn't move a lot of latex for Vandalay Industries, right?

 

8 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan said:

I heard he's also a Marine Biologist.  

 

8 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

But of course he is mostly good at pretending to be an Architect (of great FB teams):D

Some of our younger dudes are scratching their heads right about now........ 

D Bone's getting angry!! 

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