hoorta Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 On 11/5/2017 at 2:13 AM, MLD Woody said: PR move Definitely, and an enticement to come back for one more year... On 11/5/2017 at 8:33 AM, BaconHound said: Sorry $3. Completely under contract for next season with no discussion of him leaving Cleveland. The Patriots would not have made this move. The NFL is a cruel business with no room for sentiment, unless you're a Browns fan. He's in the last year (2018) of his contract, so no big deal IMHO. Hardball comes in 2019. Consider it a "lifetime achievement award". We have tons of cap room to afford it- but you have to wonder why give Joe the raise and not keep the other Joe (Haden) around? https://overthecap.com/calculator/cleveland-browns/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 On 11/5/2017 at 7:33 AM, BaconHound said: Sorry $3. Completely under contract for next season with no discussion of him leaving Cleveland. The Patriots would not have made this move. The NFL is a cruel business with no room for sentiment, unless you're a Browns fan. CORRECTAMUNDO. Belichik would have traded Thomas, ESPECIALLY since we have a low cost scrub who just demonstrated he can do the job just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 9 hours ago, wargograw said: You said “do the Browns simply overpay players for no reason? Smh.” Despite the fact that this FO has been nails with contracts, trades, and player valuations. Overpaid Collins and possibly Taylor but I get the fact if they want talent they may have to pay a bit more than market to retain or bring it in. Unless there is something they are disclosing about Thomas this was throwing money away or as someone else pointed out a lifetime achievement. Paying players for past performance in the NFL is not good business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, BaconHound said: Overpaid Collins and possibly Taylor but I get the fact if they want talent they may have to pay a bit more than market to retain or bring it in. Unless there is something they are disclosing about Thomas this was throwing money away or as someone else pointed out a lifetime achievement. Paying players for past performance in the NFL is not good business. It was a PR move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 10 hours ago, wargograw said: You said “do the Browns simply overpay players for no reason? Smh.” Despite the fact that this FO has been nails with contracts, trades, and player valuations. http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Sashi-Brown-We-can-always-get-better-and-look-to-get-better/0cab1d5a-d35b-4c38-b86c-f9241d7cf6bc Look at his demeanor. He is calm, cool and collected acting like the team is in a good position for success. He's smiling throughout the schit show. His job's safe regardless of the misses he's made. If a McDonald's worker forgets the sauce for Mcnuggets they get torn a new one, this clown has looked like a fool and no one acts raises an eyebrow. "We are going to make progress moving forward" Browns mantra since 1999. What gets me is his lack of accountability or taking responsibility, fuking hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 minute ago, BaconHound said: http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Sashi-Brown-We-can-always-get-better-and-look-to-get-better/0cab1d5a-d35b-4c38-b86c-f9241d7cf6bc Look at his demeanor. He is calm, cool and collected acting like the team is in a good position for success. He's smiling throughout the schit show. His job's safe regardless of the misses he's made. If a McDonald's worker forgets the sauce for Mcnuggets they get torn a new one, this clown has looked like a fool and no one acts raises an eyebrow. "We are going to make progress" obviously they can't get worse Sashi. Setting the bar this low means obvious we'll make progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 5 hours ago, hoorta said: Definitely, and an enticement to come back for one more year... He's in the last year (2018) of his contract, so no big deal IMHO. Hardball comes in 2019. Consider it a "lifetime achievement award". We have tons of cap room to afford it- but you have to wonder why give Joe the raise and not keep the other Joe (Haden) around? https://overthecap.com/calculator/cleveland-browns/ Because the other Joe had availability issues and sub par performances... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 13 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: Contracts...yep, trades...yep, player evaluations...just no. Valuations.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 7 hours ago, BaconHound said: http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Sashi-Brown-We-can-always-get-better-and-look-to-get-better/0cab1d5a-d35b-4c38-b86c-f9241d7cf6bc Look at his demeanor. He is calm, cool and collected acting like the team is in a good position for success. He's smiling throughout the schit show. His job's safe regardless of the misses he's made. If a McDonald's worker forgets the sauce for Mcnuggets they get torn a new one, this clown has looked like a fool and no one acts raises an eyebrow. "We are going to make progress moving forward" Browns mantra since 1999. What gets me is his lack of accountability or taking responsibility, fuking hilarious Maybe that's because he knows what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 On November 7, 2017 at 2:17 AM, wargograw said: Maybe that's because he knows what he's doing. Or at least he thinks he knows what he's doing. The drunk guy at 3am thinks he's NASCAR worthy but that isn't necessarily true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 1:17 AM, wargograw said: Valuations.... On 11/7/2017 at 1:17 AM, wargograw said: Maybe that's because he knows what he's doing. What a concept! Sashi & Co have cold-stoned nailed the value of every player "we let walk". Schwartz... Pryor... Haden... all signed for either the same or slightly less money than what we offered. Rewarding Joe T... This isn't "PR". It's an incentive to be sure one of the two or three best LTs in the game today returns from his first, have to sit out, injury of his career. And it sets up an extension when we can actually can begin to see around the corner in 2018. And the beauty is we will be able to afford his newly established pay level for 2 to 3 additional years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Tour2ma said: What a concept! Sashi & Co have cold-stoned nailed the value of every player "we let walk". Schwartz... Pryor... Haden... all signed for either the same or slightly less money than what we offered. Rewarding Joe T... This isn't "PR". It's an incentive to be sure one of the two or three best LTs in the game today returns from his first, have to sit out, injury of his career. And it sets up an extension when we can actually can begin to see around the corner in 2018. And the beauty is we will be able to afford his newly established pay level for 2 to 3 additional years. Yep, sure has been some strange bi-lines and other BROWNS chatter in this 2017 season, actually I used to be a big X & O's and more pure football talk guy but the 1-fer and possible 0-fer seasons has got me off my game........more like being on the clock again, in weeks 7, 8, 9, 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 No one said it'd be easy... https://youtu.be/fgJ2CaTfaxU?t=28s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 30 minutes ago, Tour2ma said: No one said it'd be easy... https://youtu.be/fgJ2CaTfaxU?t=28s I guess it never is unless you're Tom Brady or Bill Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 True... although even that duo has been under the gun a time or three... I mean they've missed the playoffs entirely TWICE... and lost a WC game... Oh, the agony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 15, 2017 Report Share Posted November 15, 2017 But still going home to this is still winning...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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