D Bone Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 15 minutes ago, stillmotion said: In my opinion, Barkley is the most talented player coming out of the draft. Sashi said he didn't want to reach for a QB, and I currently believe at this moment, Rosen, D'Arnold, Allen, Jackson or any other QB would be a reach at #1 Hopefully the signing of Cousins makes taking yet another QB in the 1st round a non factor...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, D Bone said: Hopefully the signing of Cousins makes taking yet another QB in the 1st round a non factor...... Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, D Bone said: Hopefully the signing of Cousins makes taking yet another QB in the 1st round a non factor...... Cousins, Barkley, and Baker Mayfield to sit and learn a couple years baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Just now, Mark O said: Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins? Absolfreakinutely....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Just now, D Bone said: Absolfreakinutely....... 2 minutes ago, Mark O said: Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins? Smith is the quintessential game manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, stillmotion said: Smith is the quintessential game manager True...but would you take him if he's available? Either via trade of free agency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Mark O said: True...but would you take him if he's available? Either via trade of free agency? If we can draft a younger guy and get Smith or Cousins i'd be game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Aside from what was possibly the easiest kick return of his life against one of the worst special teams units in the country, what way did Barkley "explode" against the Bucks?! Was it the whopping 2.1ypc?! Holy Sheet, that's elite! Also, Shmuck fan pressure and most of our fans. I watched the lot cheer for the Johnny pick. If you yield to fan pressure in the draft on questionable players while 99% of NFL fans have zero idea what they're talking about, then this FO needs to be tossed for other reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Aside from what was possibly the easiest kick return of his life against one of the worst special teams units in the country, what way did Barkley "explode" against the Bucks?! Was it the whopping 2.1ypc?! Holy Sheet, that's elite! Also, Shmuck fan pressure and most of our fans. I watched the lot cheer for the Johnny pick. If you yield to fan pressure in the draft on questionable players while 99% of NFL fans have zero idea what they're talking about, then this FO needs to be tossed for other reasons. who do you want to pick then einstein. i wanted jimmy g, not johnny. haslam is the one who wanted johnny, the fans didn't beg him to pick him. quit comparing people from this years draft to people of the past. every player has a different story, and that's Sheet logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, stillmotion said: who do you want to pick then einstein. i wanted jimmy g, not johnny. haslam is the one who wanted johnny, the fans didn't beg him to pick him. quit comparing people from this years draft to people of the past. every player has a different story, and that's Sheet logic. Oh, no. You want 'X' player. If you're the one offering up suggestions, I'm well and right to say hell no without offering my own. Because one of us realizes how early it is in the process and that this might be a pretty weak draft. Also, comparing players is called a benchmark and usually a damn good idea. Helps give a feel for seeing how certain playing styles can mesh and translate to the NFL. Just FYI, my logic is sound. Yours is horseshit. "He's a leader rarrrarrrr"... you've got to be kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 Drew Brees will also be a FA. He would be a great bridge to a new draftee and win us games in the process so everyone could keep their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said: Drew Brees will also be a FA. He would be a great bridge to a new draftee and win us games in the process so everyone could keep their jobs. I don't see him ever leaving New Orleans, plus he's pretty old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said: Drew Brees will also be a FA. He would be a great bridge to a new draftee and win us games in the process so everyone could keep their jobs. Well, he's having 24 millions in a single year contract, and is difficult to cut an established player's salary, so I don't see this FO building that bridge, and I doubt Drew would consider it. At his age you just play for the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 17 hours ago, stillmotion said: Mayfield and Barkley is a Shmucking no brainer. Yes....I am looking forward greatly to the second coming of Johnny Manziel and Trent Richardson. We have missed them around here. We haven't had that feeling here since 1969. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 hours ago, tiamat63 said: Oh, no. You want 'X' player. If you're the one offering up suggestions, I'm well and right to say hell no without offering my own. Because one of us realizes how early it is in the process and that this might be a pretty weak draft. Also, comparing players is called a benchmark and usually a damn good idea. Helps give a feel for seeing how certain playing styles can mesh and translate to the NFL. Just FYI, my logic is sound. Yours is horseshit. "He's a leader rarrrarrrr"... you've got to be kidding. He's front in the race for the heisman, is demolishing everyone, and looking like an NFL ready quarterback. Your opinion is so weak you don't even have anyone you like in the draft or an argument on why we should draft them. Yeah, it's so early in the process we should give Sashi and Hue another ten years to pick a quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted November 8, 2017 Report Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 hours ago, stillmotion said: He's front in the race for the heisman, is demolishing everyone, and looking like an NFL ready quarterback. Your opinion is so weak you don't even have anyone you like in the draft or an argument on why we should draft them. Yeah, it's so early in the process we should give Sashi and Hue another ten years to pick a quarterback. Still haven't seen you post a single trait that makes Baker NFL ready other than you saying "HEISMAN!!!!!". I'd still like you to show me evidence of reads or do you even watch the prospects you talk about? Because right now I'm leaning towards the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 14 hours ago, stillmotion said: In my opinion, Barkley is the most talented player coming out of the draft. Sashi said he didn't want to reach for a QB, and I currently believe at this moment, Rosen, D'Arnold, Allen, Jackson or any other QB would be a reach at #1 Barkley's terrible. You've yet to refute his terrible running stats against good (and some bad) teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Barkley isnt terrible. Teams stack the box on him. He's a better pure runner than even zeke was and we see what zeke has done. That being said we cant pass on a qb this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 3 hours ago, wargograw said: Barkley's terrible. You've yet to refute his terrible running stats against good (and some bad) teams. Most teams stack the box against him to try and shut him down. He's a player coming out of the draft I like, and I think he can run as well as anything. Stats aren't the bible, and he has a 5.7 ypc average this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 20 hours ago, Mark O said: Would you consider an Alex Smith if we can't sign Cousins? Personally I don't really like either one. I don't know that they would but if the Jets go quarterback with their first pick and cut Josh McCown I would pick him up. We should have kept him in the first place and let him tutor a top rated quarterback. That will be the job of the veteran no matter who we get. I have no idea why people are so enamored with Kirk Cousins. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 I don't want Barkley with the #1 or 2 overall pick, but to say he's horrible is hilarious. He's very talented as a runner, receiver and returner, and teams are selling out completely to stop him, just daring McSorley to beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: I don't want Barkley with the #1 or 2 overall pick, but to say he's horrible is hilarious. He's very talented as a runner, receiver and returner, and teams are selling out completely to stop him, just daring McSorley to beat them. Another reason why it is so hard to tag NCAA QBs for how they really will do in the tough NFL game, except for the true once in 20 year can't miss franchise guys (Marino-like and he was passed over) it's a rather fun experiment in crap shooting (remember Ryan Leaf among others?). Oh the next 5 months will be interesting with our Brownies having the inside track for anyone they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, mjp28 said: Another reason why it is so hard to tag NCAA QBs for how they really will do in the tough NFL game, except for the true once in 20 year can't miss franchise guys (Marino-like and he was passed over) it's a rather fun experiment in crap shooting (remember Ryan Leaf among others?). Oh the next 5 months will be interesting with our Brownies having the inside track for anyone they want. The upcoming draft talk this offseason on here is going to be insane. Tempers will flare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years. a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: The upcoming draft talk this offseason on here is going to be insane. Tempers will flare. Is it a given the BROWNS will pick a QB with their #1 pick or maybe wait for a lower pick to get a QB? FROM SI, top 10? 1. Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame2. Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State3. Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama4. Bradley Chubb, EDGE, N.C. State5. Sam Darnold, QB, USC6. Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA7. Derwin James, S, Florida State8. Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State9. Ronnie Harrison, S, Alabama10. Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, miktoxic said: prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years. a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again. Draft talk always changes from september to draft day, so maybe some of the terrible players coming this year in April are going to be considered future Pro Bowlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 rosen? the kid from toledo? sin't no n. dakota st. unbeaten champs while wentz directed team. and if anyone mentions anything out of the big 12 i'll drive 3 days, wait for you to walk out your door and kick you in the nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 hour ago, miktoxic said: prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years. a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again. Jared Goff isn't anything special. Carson Wentz turned out to be pretty good but seriously who here had doubts about him? Problem with DeShone Kizer is that nobody thought he was the first or second even the third best quarterback in the draft. If the team wakes up and we win 3 or 4 games the question will be mood this year anyway. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 3 hours ago, miktoxic said: prob is we get all this ammo for drafting #1s but those #1s aren't Sheet compared to the #1s we passed on in past 2-3 years. a wentz or goff in this draft? hardly. RB? yeah great. PFFFTT! time to start drafting OL and safeties..............again. This may indeed be true....and I had said so last year when everyone was saying "the 2017 class of QBs sucks compared to what the 2018 class will be". Well....not so fast my friend. Does anyone really thing....as had been predicted by some....that the 2018 class could rival 1983 or 2004 for QBs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 25 minutes ago, The Gipper said: This may indeed be true....and I had said so last year when everyone was saying "the 2017 class of QBs sucks compared to what the 2018 class will be". Well....not so fast my friend. Does anyone really thing....as had been predicted by some....that the 2018 class could rival 1983 or 2004 for QBs? They are all tanking to avoid Cleveland in the draft. Idiot Mayfield did not get the memo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.