roach Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Our defense has been awful every year since 1999. This year’s rendition may be the worst of all of them. We have no talent and Williams is an absolute joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, roach said: This year’s rendition may be the worst of all of them. awww you must be a fresh noobinz that's been watching the browns for like 2 years. You have no idea how bad past defense's were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 LOL. I’ve been a season ticket holder since Sipe. Section 342 since 1999. This D is horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 minute ago, roach said: LOL. I’ve been a season ticket holder since Sipe. Section 342 since 1999. This D is horrible Then you remember full well when RB's were obliterating rushing records against the Browns that had been standing since the days of sipe. I get it ur mad. It's sunday. We're all mad. It's what we do every sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Don’t feed the idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tim Couch Pulls Out said: Don’t feed the idiot It's 3:30 on sundays, this is what we do in Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 A team should not have to score more than 30 points to beat the Bengals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 hour ago, roach said: Our defense has been awful every year since 1999. This year’s rendition may be the worst of all of them. We have no talent and Williams is an absolute joke. I got blasted for calling Greg Williams a joke before he even coached a game for us. I predicted that his defense would be a blitz happy, penalty prone bunch of undisciplined azz holes who woild get faked out.....tired out and manhandled. Tom Flugel meanwhile kisses his nutsack and powders his taint. Flugel promised that this jackoff Williams would have the defense whipped onto shape. I predicted Williams D would be worse than Hortons and it is. Williams Blows Donkey Caulks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Send in the Clowns Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 43 minutes ago, roach said: A team should not have to score more than 30 points to beat the Bengals. The defense has some major issues but until this team gets a winning offense the defense will continue to play disheartened and overworked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Send in the Clowns Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ghoolie said: I got blasted for calling Greg Williams a joke before he even coached a game for us. I predicted that his defense would be a blitz happy, penalty prone bunch of undisciplined azz holes who woild get faked out.....tired out and manhandled. Tom Flugel meanwhile kisses his nutsack and powders his taint. Flugel promised that this jackoff Williams would have the defense whipped onto shape. I predicted Williams D would be worse than Hortons and it is. Williams Blows Donkey Caulks. I was not a fan of Horton but this defense isn't so hot either. Would love to have a quality secondary. Opportunity to get a top DB or 2 in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 34 minutes ago, Send in the Clowns said: I was not a fan of Horton but this defense isn't so hot either. Williams is a knucklehead. I agree that Horton was bad, but he had less talent than our current coach. Offensive Coordinators don’t need to game plan against us. They look past the Browns and just make a few game day adjustments after the first series or two. Shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Again the NFL game is one of competition and the offense does the defense no favors. I don't like Williams "don't give up the big play" mentality but other than that they have improved from previous years. As Cleve pointed out what Mixon did today was typical in previous years and not the aberration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Our defense has played just good enough to lose every game this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Ghoolie said: I predicted Williams D would be worse than Hortons and it is. 1) no you didn't 2) no it isn't. And anybody that knows how the game of football is played knows this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Yes, I did. I went to war with Flugel. I ABSOLUTELY predicted the 2017 defense would be worse. I predicted accurately that it would be aggressive, easily fooled,and penalty splattered. W I L L I A M S B L O W S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: 2) no it isn't. And anybody that knows how the game of football is played knows this. 18 minutes ago, Ghoolie said: Yes, I did. I went to war with Flugel. I ABSOLUTELY predicted the 2017 defense would be worse. I predicted accurately that it would be aggressive, easily fooled,and penalty splattered. W I L L I A M S B L O W S Again I know you don't like facts but by almost every measured statistic this years D is better than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Williams should have both safeties stand on the goal line on every play just like soccer!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Clevfan4life said: awww you must be a fresh noobinz that's been watching the browns for like 2 years. You have no idea how bad past defense's were roach is "letting the hate flow". Ed I'm with you. 2 hours ago, Ghoolie said: I got blasted for calling Greg Williams a joke before he even coached a game for us. I predicted that his defense would be a blitz happy, penalty prone bunch of undisciplined azz holes who woild get faked out.....tired out and manhandled. Tom Flugel meanwhile kisses his nutsack and powders his taint. Flugel promised that this jackoff Williams would have the defense whipped onto shape. I predicted Williams D would be worse than Hortons and it is. Williams Blows Donkey Caulks. Tom, Williams is pretty far down on my list of who's responsible for this dumpster fire. Sa$hit gave him this talent deficient defense, and then Collins, Ogbah, and Meder get hurt. 1 hour ago, roach said: Williams is a knucklehead. I agree that Horton was bad, but he had less talent than our current coach. Offensive Coordinators don’t need to game plan against us. They look past the Browns and just make a few game day adjustments after the first series or two. Shameful. I'm gong to start a topic (maybe). Flugels has it right- the Browns are the free space on a bingo card for opposing teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC mike Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Lets rip the only bright spot about the team. You guys are funny and sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, LBC mike said: Lets rip the only bright spot about the team. You guys are funny and sad. You mean bright because you can see the light through it? Today it was swiss cheese. I'm not saying that it doesn't play well at times, but when you need it the most, this D is nowhere to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, LBC mike said: Lets rip the only bright spot about the team. You guys are funny and sad. Bright spot? You mean about 2 watts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 The defense is ahead of the offense. Doesn't mean the defense is good, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 hours ago, roach said: LOL. I’ve been a season ticket holder since Sipe. Section 342 since 1999. This D is horrible Cleve's a Shmucking clown. Ignore the dumb butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 The Rams got noticably better without Williams. The Jags got better without Stosh. The tribe got better without depudpuller. So what could possibly help the Browns to get better?? Hmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Our Greg Williams led 'improved' defense has given up 289 total points, or 26.3 points per game........ Seems like the defense is following The Process perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, D Bone said: Our Greg Williams led 'improved' defense has given up 289 total points, or 26.3 points per game........ Seems like the defense is following The Process perfectly. Just curious, but how many points per game did last year's defense give up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Good defense doesnt mysteriously appear one night during training camp. Theres no defense fairy that comes to players one night during tc and sprinkles magic dust over them. It takes years to build the kind of perennial powerhouses that lebeau had in pgh all those years. Can we please stop? The defense didnt play that well today, and neither did the offense....just like every fukking week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Just curious, but how many points per game did last year's defense give up? 452/28.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Just curious, but how many points per game did last year's defense give up? This oughta be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, D Bone said: 452/28.2 Baby steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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