jrb12711 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, khand3stooges said: Couldn’t agree more. Had Gordon open many times and over threw him. Kizer just blows. It's clear he's not the answer, yet again. He's had plenty of time and plenty of games and he makes the same awful mistakes over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 They remain on course for their perfect season........ Proud days indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Canton Dawg said: Funny watching the Chargers players mugging for the camera after the pick. Somebody needs to tell them, that their beating a winless team in front of 10,000 fans. Pathetic. Well, they still won, and we got beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Kizer just doesn't seem to get it. I like his toughness but everything else is lacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, jrb12711 said: Kizer just blows. It's clear he's not the answer, yet again. He's had plenty of time and plenty of games and he makes the same awful mistakes over and over. Bargain shopping for QBs at the Goodwill will cause that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, medicineman said: The D only made them punt 1 time. oh wait 2 times all game. That is on the D I can't even begin to type how stupid this sentiment is. Let's blame the defense for giving up less than 20 points despite being out there the whole 2nd half because our offense is pathetic. Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Kizer gets migraines. He's brain damaged from the get go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, BaconHound said: Kizer just doesn't seem to get it. I like his toughness but everything else is lacking The kid has heart, but not enough progression at all in season. Like I said from the start, he's a 3 year project QB at best. And after that 3 years, he still might not be our guy. It's like groundhog day, same pathetic cowpoop, same mistakes, same bad clock management, same redzone inefficiency, and the same sunshine pumpers are going to yell at us for complaining and defend the process more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Johnny still at the beach in Hawaii? I'll ask him to come back when I get there tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: yeah tell me how this game is the D's fault. The offense is beyond atrocious. The defense is on the field the whole game. We've got garret gimped again now and Danny might be out. I mean this is horrible. We get near the endzone and Duke works his little black a'ss off to get to the sideline and boom penalty and then boom Kizer holds the ball "again" with #99 on the field. Our O line actually did a pretty decent job against Bosa and Ingram....but you can't hold the ball for 10 minutes ffs kizer. I mean if he hasn't learned by now he may never. There's other things i'm willing to allow growth on, but that lack mental timer...especially with two of the best pass rushers in the league on the field...this late in the season STILL!!....unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Defense didn't cost the team the game but they weren't very good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, TexasAg1969 said: Johnny still at the beach in Hawaii? I'll ask him to come back when I get there tomorrow. Bring him the contract from Jimmy. Guyana Rum, all he can drink@! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, DieHardBrownsFan said: Bring him the contract from Jimmy. Guyana Rum, all he can drink@! Send JG with me. We'll find us those topless women, drink us some rum and ride some swans and be done by practice on Tuesday. Sure could not hurt what we see now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 OK, about the defense, it was frustrating but they managed to make some plays mainly in the redzone, when they have been terrible and have surrendered many points in that area the whole year. I get that they try to keep low the ''big play counter'' but we still allow many 10-15 yard plays. Anyway, thinking about it, any defense that keeps the rival under 20 points shouldn't be called off. I mean, Chargers have a good offense and we kept the score close, so for me, the blame goes to.... The offense. Kizer is terrible mostly in the endzone, we are completely out of ideas and don't execute even the simplest plays properly. And we still don't have many playmakers. Coleman didn't have a catch this game, just when we expected he would shine having a legit WR#1 in Gordon. Meanwhile, Gordon had 85 yards, in a game where Heyward was all over him, and Njoku had 74. We didn't run the ball, we didn't get many drives going... If we just ended in FG distance more times we could at least have more options. Hue doesn't get the most out of this offensive roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 25 minutes ago, Clevfan4life said: tell me how our defense caused that Kizer interception They were not showing him any support, In fact from what I understand they were yelling and calling him names from the sidelines, Those kind of things hurt when it is you're own teammates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, medicineman said: They were not showing him any support, In fact from what I understand they were yelling and calling him names from the sidelines, Those kind of things hurt when it is you're own teammates Well, he does kinda F#%* up in the redzone close to 90% of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 When did that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, stillmotion said: Well, he does kinda F#%* up in the redzone close to 90% of the time That he does. Drives right down the field and GIVES it to the other team, Atleast weeden didn't drive us down the field, he would just give it right to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, medicineman said: That he does. Drives right down the field and GIVES it to the other team, Atleast weeden didn't drive us down the field, he would just give it right to them. Kizer kind of makes Weeden look like Joe Montana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Coleman is worthless. WTF was he doing holding on that run by Johnson? Is he so stupid he thinks that won't be flagged or what????????? Kizer can throw great throws here and there, but the underthrows, really bad overthrows, inaccurate throws..and worst of all, staring down his intended first option the entire time... just not going to work. I think he would make the same mistakes if he started two more years. It's who he is, how his mind is not wired to be a qb. and the rolling out and just not -thinking- that the pursuit is surely going to catch up to him and knock the ball out of his hands...pitiful. Kizer is apparently a linear thinker - he can't see more than one thing at a time. I think he will be a very good backup for a long time maybe, but these Browns needf a real qb with a qb brain, a fs, a top shut down cb. The defense doesn't work on pass plays. Stopping the giant plays, but letting shorter plays go wide open most of the gameis limiting the score, but still looking like our first two draft picks should be db's and a wr. and another db in the second round. The Browns need a new qb who has a qb brain - wired to see the entire field. and playing so far off the los on defense, the db'sare just admitting defeat on a pass play. Preventing a quick TD is hardly a moral victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacosman Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, calfoxwc said: Coleman is worthless. hey dont say that! he was our mid first round draft pick in 2016! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tacosman said: hey dont say that! he was our mid first round draft pick in 2016! Coleman has been pretty horrible so far, is always injured, gets penalties called on him, and can’t catch. Gordon was the lone star of this game. Get him a real QB and offensive coordinator and we can be competitive on offense. Even McCown would make Gordon and the offense light years better. But it’s better to play a 21 year old rookie QB who isn’t ready and lose all the games instead of trying to win. This is the NFL after all, and Haslam, as an owner, is smarter than all of us regarding football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 I can't blame the FO for drafting Coleman but I can blame them on why he is still here, as you mentioned, dropped passes, gets called for dumb penalties and is hurt a lot. That is just dumb to keep somebody like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, medicineman said: I can't blame the FO for drafting Coleman but I can blame them on why he is still here, as you mentioned, dropped passes, gets called for dumb penalties and is hurt a lot. That is just dumb to keep somebody like that I blame them for drafting him. There were better alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, stillmotion said: I blame them for drafting him. There were better alternatives. I saw his highlight reel and I was impressed, I was not impressed by our so called kicker. All the long kicks I saw him make, nobody was really coming for him, there was in no way that he was under pressure to make the kick so I really was not happy we picked him. But he is what we have, I don't know if we have him next year or not. But I see a lot of players gone at season end, Britt, Higgins, Louis I am sure will all be gone, Gordon will be traded or will just walk, Coleman should be gone to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 28 minutes ago, stillmotion said: Coleman has been pretty horrible so far, is always injured, gets penalties called on him, and can’t catch. Gordon was the lone star of this game. Get him a real QB and offensive coordinator and we can be competitive on offense. Even McCown would make Gordon and the offense light years better. But it’s better to play a 21 year old rookie QB who isn’t ready and lose all the games instead of trying to win. This is the NFL after all, and Haslam, as an owner, is smarter than all of us regarding football. Shelton was playing well before injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 57 minutes ago, Nero said: inHue doesn't get the most out of this offensive roster. Here's ^^ the starting point..OL is giving QB suffocate time to make plays..so many plays are sniffed out by design..or Kizer re-setting formation. Both Backs, have no blocking schemes in front of them. All solo stuff.After Gordon, our WR group have no solo ability to beat anybody & can't block downfield neither..'On the Bosa sack'... look at Seth Devalve on turn in & go in center of field..easy TD.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, medicineman said: I saw his highlight reel and I was impressed, I was not impressed by our so called kicker. All the long kicks I saw him make, nobody was really coming for him, there was in no way that he was under pressure to make the kick so I really was not happy we picked him. But he is what we have, I don't know if we have him next year or not. But I see a lot of players gone at season end, Britt, Higgins, Louis I am sure will all be gone, Gordon will be traded or will just walk, Coleman should be gone to Gordon is a restricted free agent so depends how much the Browns want to retain him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, BaconHound said: Gordon is a restricted free agent so depends how much the Browns want to retain him. He will most likely be gone then, I love Josh Gordon but he has yet to regain my trust, Will he fuk up again? How could you not use drugs or drink and play for this circus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, medicineman said: He will most likely be gone then, I love Josh Gordon but he has yet to regain my trust, Will he fuk up again? How could you not use drugs or drink and play for this circus Could be but you offer the first round tender at minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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