The Gipper Posted December 25, 2017 Report Posted December 25, 2017 At this point if he really is going to be in our Spag about it as bag. That I hope he does then school stay in.
tiamat63 Posted December 25, 2017 Report Posted December 25, 2017 None. Praying to Christ somebody accepts a trade down.
TexasAg1969 Posted December 25, 2017 Report Posted December 25, 2017 Then you have to guess if Darnold also stays in school. EDIT: Decisions by both also depend upon whether Browns find a FA QB or trade for one. Find the right mentor and one or both might just come out for the $$ knowing they will be groomed instead of thrown to the lions.
dawg2fan Posted December 25, 2017 Report Posted December 25, 2017 Josh Allen who would be my #1 pick anyway.
Westside Steve Posted December 25, 2017 Report Posted December 25, 2017 Even though it is something of a crapshoot I heard one analyst the other day talking about Josh Allen being the Dark Horse. Rosen would be a moron if he decided to hold out for another year. We could actually see how serious the Giants are maybe they would trade up. We can still have Allen or even Darnold. I can certainly sympathize with somebody not wanting to play for the Cleveland Browns in the state they've been in for quite a while. Still being the number one pick in the draft has to have some kind of attraction and the way the team should be loaded after this draft has to be a good sign. And I'd like to see an attitude like the kid has enough confidence in himself to think he could turn this mess around. WSS
calfoxwc Posted December 25, 2017 Report Posted December 25, 2017 http://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/la-sp-ucla-washington-20171028-story.html https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/11/25/16698098/josh-rosen-injury-ucla-california gets injured. concussion now, finger another time, etc. Last year - a shoulder nerve injury... could be one hit away from ending his career. http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/11/01/reports-nerve-issue-will-likely-sideline-josh-rosen-for-rest-of-year/ Reports: Nerve issue will likely sideline Josh Rosen for rest of year By John TaylorNov 1, 2016, 12:52 PM EST interesting - one of the comments after the article: "nobody likes this kid "
Marc1971 Posted December 25, 2017 Report Posted December 25, 2017 Trade down until we own all 6th round picks. Genius!
Wagonfan2017 Posted December 25, 2017 Report Posted December 25, 2017 Darnold if he declares for draft, if not, then Josh Allen. Baker Mayfield has off-field maturity crap going on. Who knows, could just wait and take Rosen first pick in 2019. Ha ha!
hoorta Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 13 hours ago, calfoxwc said: http://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/la-sp-ucla-washington-20171028-story.html https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/11/25/16698098/josh-rosen-injury-ucla-california gets injured. concussion now, finger another time, etc. Last year - a shoulder nerve injury... could be one hit away from ending his career. http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/11/01/reports-nerve-issue-will-likely-sideline-josh-rosen-for-rest-of-year/ Reports: Nerve issue will likely sideline Josh Rosen for rest of year By John TaylorNov 1, 2016, 12:52 PM EST interesting - one of the comments after the article: "nobody likes this kid " Cal you're as bad with Rosen as PO is with Hogan- except in a negative way.
TopDawg31 Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 we just watched a whole season of Josh Allen, stay the Shmuck away from that Sheet.
calfoxwc Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 1 hour ago, hoorta said: Cal you're as bad with Rosen as PO is with Hogan- except in a negative way. it is a good thing to be the exact opposite of po. With all the stats/#1 passer by "experts" rosen worship all around...I'm just bringing up a legit pointsies, Ryan Leaf. Jeff George. This means, I am being fair and balanced by presenting the flip side to the other side... Ryan...Leaf. Jeff ...George. Happy New Year !
hoorta Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: it is a good thing to be the exact opposite of po. With all the stats/#1 passer by "experts" rosen worship all around...I'm just bringing up a legit pointsies, Ryan Leaf. Jeff George. This means, I am being fair and balanced by presenting the flip side to the other side... Ryan...Leaf. Jeff ...George. Happy New Year ! Just be thankful there's other options besides Rosen out there in 2018.
Kennel Club Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 It's got to be Baker Mayfield........I think?
Dutch Oven Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 7 hours ago, calfoxwc said: it is a good thing to be the exact opposite of po. With all the stats/#1 passer by "experts" rosen worship all around...I'm just bringing up a legit pointsies, Ryan Leaf. Jeff George. This means, I am being fair and balanced by presenting the flip side to the other side... Ryan...Leaf. Jeff ...George. Happy New Year ! Trust me, no one "worships" Rosen on this board as much as you hate on him, or as much as you adore Josh Allen.
Westside Steve Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 7 hours ago, hoorta said: Just be thankful there's other options besides Rosen out there in 2018. Let's hope that first the other options are worthy of being the guy. Secondly that somebody here recognizes who that guy is. Kizer was certainly an option last year. WSS
hoorta Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Kennel Club said: It's got to be Baker Mayfield........I think? I haven't made much of a secret I like what I"ve seen of Mayfield- so far. Ask me what I think in a few weeks after the playoffs.
Hunter33109 Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 We'll show him. We'll go 0-16 next year and then get the top draft pick again. He again may duck the draft 1n 2019 but eventually he'll run out of years in school then he'll be ours...I love this evil plan.
calfoxwc Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 25 minutes ago, hoorta said: I haven't made much of a secret I like what I"ve seen of Mayfield- so far. Ask me what I think in a few weeks after the playoffs. Mayfield - outside of some serious mistakes he made in college - you have to look at everything about him - does he never get in trouble again the rest of his life? He certainly is a player, he has outstanding leaderhip, intangibles, and a lot of people love the guy. One point, though - he has arguably the very best offensive line in college football.... I like Thorson, Drew Lock, Allen, and Tanner Lee, of Nebraska. I even like Rudolph later. I never heard of Tour's guy, Benkert, but he is also on my list now. Even Luke Falk, who some compare to Kirk Cousins. Allen, Lock, Darnold, Tanner Lee are my favorite qb's in this draft. I just have been having fun with countering the consensus? #1 qb overall, because he is said to be the best pure pocket passer. We'll see how the draft goes. I just don't jump on bandwagons, that's all. http://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/after-earning-trust-husker-quarterback-tanner-lee-turns-his-focus/article_ea415717-7d21-5bcf-b17f-318bd8dd63be.html
Hunter33109 Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 Maybe we can pull a Sashi Brown and trade our first two picks for some magic beans and a broken QB like Luck. At least we will get even more draft picks for 2019 and 2020 then we can accumulate more draft picks by trading our first draft pick in 2020 for a first round in 2021, then we can trade our........ It will never end and all Browns fans will always think of next year that will be our year. By 2025 maybe we can look forward to the St. Louis Browns!!!
Westside Steve Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 So exactly what happened when squeal eye refused to play for the charges and wound up with the Giants? WSS
Dutch Oven Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hunter33109 said: Maybe we can pull a Sashi Brown and trade our first two picks for some magic beans and a broken QB like Luck. At least we will get even more draft picks for 2019 and 2020 then we can accumulate more draft picks by trading our first draft pick in 2020 for a first round in 2021, then we can trade our........ It will never end and all Browns fans will always think of next year that will be our year. By 2025 maybe we can look forward to the St. Louis Browns!!! St. Louis Browns? It's like that sounds familiar...
Browns149 Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 If Hue is the coach. It won’t matter. They will go 0-16 again. FIRE HUE !!!!!!
TexasAg1969 Posted December 26, 2017 Report Posted December 26, 2017 Garrett weighs in for potential #1 overall: A least we know he is a Brown. https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Bolt/Myles-Garrett-offers-advice-to-potential-Cleveland-Browns-NFL-Draft-pick-112756491?utm_source=247Sports Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=171226_163719_Cleveland Browns Newsletter&utm_content=Image&liveconnect=1B-C2-1E-69-15-F3-1E-26-47-C2-FB-AF-1F-3D-14-30171226_163719ClevelandBrownsNewsletter
Dutch Oven Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Browns149 said: If Hue is the coach. It won’t matter. They will go 0-16 again. FIRE HUE !!!!!! Do you want the Browns to fire Hue and the coaching staff? I mean, the dozens of times you've wrote it in the last 24 hours still has me wondering...
Westside Steve Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 11 hours ago, Westside Steve said: So exactly what happened when "squeal eye" refused to play for the charges and wound up with the Giants? WSS One more time, anybody know the particulars here? WSS
hoorta Posted December 27, 2017 Report Posted December 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Westside Steve said: One more time, anybody know the particulars here? WSS Hey Steve- the Manning thing is just a Google away. 2004 draft- Chargers were #1 overall, Giants #4. For all intents and purposes, they swapped picks. Giants got Manning, Chargers got Rivers + a bunch of picks that turned into 2004 3rd, 2005 1st, and 2005 5th. Shawn Merriman, Nate Kaeding, and Roman Oben. MHO? If Rosen pulls a Manning, We swap picks with the Giants, move down from #1 to #2, take the QB they don't want (a Wentz level QB would be looking pretty good for the Browns now) and the Giants give us their 2019 first round pick. No deal? tough stuff Josh. PS- with Rosen getting concussed this year- and dinged previously, well there's the injury red flags.
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