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13 hours ago, Clevfan4life said:

We've been over this before, weather is not climate. Infact the cold arctic air coming down from up north IS BECAUSE OF GW.

So

e people are just smart enough to absorb that even when its detailed for them. Notice i said "gw" and not "mmgw", Thats the only discussion to be had

Of course the politically correct term is now climate change. Because when things shift back the other way in time the left will still need something to complain about.

And remember if it isn't really man-made it doesn't really matter.

WSS

Canton Dawg · December 31, 2017

So the cold is caused by global warming...that’s the dumbest Sh!t I’ve ever read!

I think global warming is is caused by the cold. 🤡

DieHardBrownsFan · December 31, 2017

Yes, and heat causes global cooling. Liberal for I don't know what the Shmuck I'm talking about.

MLD Woody · December 31, 2017

1 hour ago, Canton Dawg said:

So the cold is caused by global warming...that’s the dumbest Sh!t I’ve ever read!

I think global warming is is caused by the cold. 🤡

It's climate change because of posts like the one I've quoted Steve.

An embarrassing amount of us citizens thinks the world is 6000 years old. You think they're going to follow all of the finer points of global warming? No. They're going to see snow outside and say it's not real.

People are stupid. Many are especially scientifically illiterate.

MLD Woody · December 31, 2017

A consensus of reputable scientists and scientific organizations are all lying liberals paid off by Obama! It's snowing outside so it must be fake news!!!!

calfoxwc · December 31, 2017

1 hour ago, MLD Woody said:

It's climate change because of posts like the one I've quoted Steve.

An embarrassing amount of us citizens thinks the world is 6000 years old. You think they're going to follow all of the finer points of global warming? No. They're going to see snow outside and say it's not real.

People are stupid. Many are especially scientifically illiterate.

an embarrassing amount of stupid asswholes think the left is great. so there ya go, and thanks, for once AGAIN, changing the subject

of the thread because you are a woodypeckerhead.

calfoxwc · December 31, 2017

this is another example of how ignorant mmgw fraud is becoming:

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/04/cow-farts-really-significantly-contribute-global-warming/

http://metro.co.uk/2017/03/25/cow-burps-rather-than-farts-are-destroying-the-earths-atmosphere-6531638/

yes, folks, it is now CMGW. COW MADE GLOBAL WARMING.

Tax the farmers, tax the cows, tax dairies, tax pasuture owners...]

and use the money for more illegal asswhole voters to keep voting the libs into office...for more free stuff.

calfoxwc · December 31, 2017

Which, is not ignoring that woodpeckers also fart, and stink up this forum with stupid crap.

what we have here, is woodypeckerhead made forum warming. oughta be a TAX on that, too.

calfoxwc · December 31, 2017

Does anybody with any common sense, think this graph represents scary mmgw?

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Clevfan4life · December 31, 2017

4 hours ago, Canton Dawg said:

So the cold is caused by global warming...that’s the dumbest Sh!t I’ve ever read!

I think global warming is is caused by the cold. 🤡

Canton, go look it up. Just go look it up. Its been explained since the fukking 80's

Clevfan4life · December 31, 2017

They even made an awful movie decades ago about how gw could cause a mini ice age. This is such old hat but u uneducated illiterate bumpkins just wallow in ignorance and u love it....u really love it

Canton Dawg · December 31, 2017

4 hours ago, Clevfan4life said:

Canton, go look it up. Just go look it up. Its been explained since the fukking 80's

I’ve followed it for years, and I still don’t see any correlation between CO2 levels and temperatures.

calfoxwc · December 31, 2017

Just now, Canton Dawg said:

I’ve followed it for years, and I still don’t see any correlation between CO2 levels and temperatures.

There is none. They have mostly dropped the discredited CO2 "crisis" in mmgw, and don't even call it

man made global warming anymore it was so ridiculed. No, it's "climate change", much more respectable, except their

mmgw crap is still a crock.

Canton Dawg · December 31, 2017

5 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

There is none. They have mostly dropped the discredited CO2 "crisis" in mmgw, and don't even call it

man made global warming anymore it was so ridiculed. No, it's "climate change", much more respectable, except their

mmgw crap is still a crock.

And this is the same group of fools that used to warn us of “global cooling”...I didn’t buy that nonsense either.

MLD Woody · December 31, 2017

Psssh, those "experts" and their "science"... What do they know? I'm a red blooded, god fearin American, and I agree with the Trump, a real American. All this climate change nonsense is a liberal ploy to take my money and my guns! Dumb scientists, it's snowing outside, how could the earth be warming? Think idiots

calfoxwc · December 31, 2017

I wish woodypeckerhead would stop farting and stinking up this forum - it's adding to the "mmgw" that he is addicted to.

https://www.nas.org/articles/Estimated_40_Percent_of_Scientists_Doubt_Manmade_Global_Warming

PRINCETON, NJ (January 3, 2011)—S. Fred Singer said in an interview with the National Association of Scholars (NAS) that “the number of skeptical qualified scientists has been growing steadily; I would guess it is about 40% now.”

Singer, a leading scientific skeptic of anthropocentric global warming (AGW), is an atmospheric physicist, and founder of the Science and Environmental Policy Project (SEPP), an organization that began challenging the published findings of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in the 1990s. SEPP established the Leipzig Declaration, a statement of dissent from the 1997 Kyoto Protocol that has been signed by over one hundred scientists and meteorologists.

Asked what he would like to see happen in regard to public opinion and policy on climate change, Singer replied,

I would like to see the public look upon global warming as just another scientific controversy and oppose any public policies until the major issues are settled, such as the cause. If mostly natural, as NIPCC concludes, then the public policies currently discussed are pointless, hugely expensive, and wasteful of resources that could better be applied to real societal problems.

NIPCC is the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change, another group established by Singer. In 2009 NIPCC published Climate Change Reconsidered,an 880-page report on scientific research that contradicts the models of man-made global warming. Singer believes that global warming exists but that human contributions to it are minimal. In the interview Singer said he believed his efforts in the last twenty years had been successful in disproving the notion that “the science is settled.”

Singer continues his work in the sciences, focusing lately on geophysical research and the Earth’s atmosphere. He is professor emeritus of environmental science at the University of Virginia, and he was the founding Dean of the School of Environmental and Planetary Sciences at the University of Miami (1964-1967) and the Director of the Center for Atmospheric and Space Physics University of Maryland (1953-1962).

The National Association of Scholars does not take a position on global warming but advocates for a full discussion of all sides of the controversy.To learn more about NAS, visit www.nas.org.

calfoxwc · January 1, 2018

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2009/07/meet-the-man-who-has-exposed-the-great-climate-change-con-trick/

Meet the man who has exposed the great climate change con trick

James Delingpole talks to Professor Ian Plimer, the Australian geologist, whose new book shows that ‘anthropogenic global warming’ is a dangerous, ruinously expensive fiction, a ‘first-world luxury’ with no basis in scientific fact. Shame on the publishers who rejected the book

James Delingpole

James Delingpole talks to Professor Ian Plimer, the Australian geologist, whose new book shows that ‘anthropogenic global warming’ is a dangerous, ruinously expensive fiction, a ‘first-world luxury’ with no basis in scientific fact. Shame on the publishers who rejected the book

Imagine how wonderful the world would be if man-made global warming were just a figment of Al Gore’s imagination. No more ugly wind farms to darken our sunlit uplands. No more whopping electricity bills, artificially inflated by EU-imposed carbon taxes. No longer any need to treat each warm, sunny day as though it were some terrible harbinger of ecological doom. And definitely no need for the $7.4 trillion cap and trade (carbon-trading) bill — the largest tax in American history — which President Obama and his cohorts are so assiduously trying to impose on the US economy.

Imagine no more, for your fairy godmother is here. His name is Ian Plimer, Professor of Mining Geology at Adelaide University, and he has recently published the landmark book Heaven And Earth, which is going to change forever the way we think about climate change.

‘The hypothesis that human activity can create global warming is extraordinary because it is contrary to validated knowledge from solar physics, astronomy, history, archaeology and geology,’ says Plimer, and while his thesis is not new, you’re unlikely to have heard it expressed with quite such vigour, certitude or wide-ranging scientific authority. Where fellow sceptics like Bjorn Lomborg or Lord Lawson of Blaby are prepared cautiously to endorse the International Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) more modest predictions, Plimer will cede no ground whatsoever. Anthropogenic global warming (AGW) theory, he argues, is the biggest, most dangerous and ruinously expensive con trick in history.

To find out why, let’s meet the good professor. He’s a tanned, rugged, white-haired sixtysomething — courteous and jolly but combative when he needs to be — glowing with the health of a man who spends half his life on field expeditions to Iran, Turkey and his beloved Outback. And he’s sitting in my garden drinking tea on exactly the kind of day the likes of the Guardian’s George Monbiot would probably like to ban. A lovely warm sunny one.

So go on then, Prof. What makes you sure that you’re right and all those scientists out there saying the opposite are wrong? ‘I’m a geologist. We geologists have always recognised that climate changes over time. Where we differ from a lot of people pushing AGW is in our understanding of scale. They’re only interested in the last 150 years. Our time frame is 4,567 million years. So what they’re doing is the equivalent of trying to extrapolate the plot of Casablanca from one tiny bit of the love scene. And you can’t. It doesn’t work.’

What Heaven And Earth sets out to do is restore a sense of scientific perspective to a debate which has been hijacked by ‘politicians, environmental activists and opportunists’. It points out, for example, that polar ice has been present on earth for less than 20 per cent of geological time; that extinctions of life are normal; that climate changes are cyclical and random; that the CO2 in the atmosphere — to which human activity contributes the tiniest fraction — is only 0.001 per cent of the total CO2 held in the oceans, surface rocks, air, soils and life; that CO2 is not a pollutant but a plant food; that the earth’s warmer periods — such as when the Romans grew grapes and citrus trees as far north as Hadrian’s Wall — were times of wealth and plenty.

All this is scientific fact — which is more than you can say for any of the computer models turning out doomsday scenarios about inexorably rising temperatures, sinking islands and collapsing ice shelves. Plimer doesn’t trust them because they seem to have little if any basis in observed reality.

‘I’m a natural scientist. I’m out there every day, buried up to my neck in sh**, collecting raw data. And that’s why I’m so sceptical of these models, which have nothing to do with science or empiricism but are about torturing the data till it finally confesses. None of them predicted this current period we’re in of global cooling. There is no problem with global warming. It stopped in 1998. The last two years of global cooling have erased nearly 30 years of temperature increase.’

Plimer’s uncompromising position has not made him popular. ‘They say I rape cows, eat babies, that I know nothing about anything. My favourite letter was the one that said: “Dear sir, drop dead”. I’ve also had a demo in Sydney outside one of my book launches, and I’ve had mothers coming up to me with two-year-old children in their arms saying: “Don’t you have any kind of morality? This child’s future is being destroyed.’’’ Plimer’s response to the last one is typically robust. ‘If you’re so concerned, why did you breed?’

Clevfan4life · January 1, 2018

34 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said:

I’ve followed it for years, and I still don’t see any correlation between CO2 levels and temperatures.

I said look up how cold snaps can be a result of gw. This isnt about whether humans are causing it or not, this is about rational discussion. You made the statement about how is itbpossible to havevthese cold snaps on acsupposedly warming planet. I told u to go look it up. In guessing you have and now you want to change the subject a lil.

Clevfan4life · January 1, 2018

Ian pilmer....

https://www.snopes.com/volcano-carbon-emissions/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2009/dec/16/ian-plimer-versus-george-monbiot

"

“Ian Plimer’s performance in his debate with Monbiot has to be seen to be believed.

Rather than admit to making any error at all, Plimer ducks, weaves, obfuscates, recites his favourite catch phrase, tries to change the subject and fabricates some more. When confronted with the fact that the USGS says (backed with scientific papers) that human activities emit 130 times as much CO2 as volcanoes, Plimer claims that the USGS doesn’t count underwater volcanoes.

When told that the USGS specifically said that they do count undersea volcanoes, Plimer invented a story about how the nature of the rocks under the ocean proves that there must be unobserved emissions. Needless to say, this is not acceptable conduct for a scientist.”

yeah that sounds alot like the playbook cal uses. Duck, weave, obfuscate, resort to catch phrases......oh yeah thats cal to a T

calfoxwc · January 1, 2018

This is just a tiny bit of the information about mmgw being a complete farce

http://akdart.com/warming12.html

Snowfall on Alaska mountains has doubled — climate change blamed. Snowfall on a major summit in North America's highest mountain range has more than doubled since the beginning of the Industrial Age, according to a study from Dartmouth College, the University of Maine, and the University of New Hampshire. The research not only finds a dramatic increase in snowfall, it further explains connections in the global climate system by attributing the record accumulation to warmer waters thousands of miles away in the tropical Pacific and Indian Oceans.

Global Temperature Increases Are Lower and Slower, Says New Study. A new study using more than 38 years satellite and weather balloon temperature data hypothesizes that global temperatures are going up more slowly than projected by most climate models. And right on time, these results were challenged by other researchers who defend the scientific climate consensus as embodied in Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports. The new study done by University of Alabama in Huntsville climatologists John Christy and Richard McNider published in the Asia-Pacific Journal of Atmospheric Science argues consensus models may not have accurately captured how storms in the tropics expel excess heat back into space and/or that they have failed to account for how heat is absorbed by the world's oceans.

Inconvenient: oceans continue to cool. From the way media and climate scientists portray the global air temperature this past year, you'd think there was only one place to go — up. [...] September Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) are now available, and we see downward spikes in ocean temps everywhere, led by sharp decreases in the Tropics and SH, reversing the bump upward last month. The Tropical cooling in particular factors into forecasters favoring an unusually late La Nina appearance in coming months.

Man-Made Climate Catastrophe Is a Myth, More Studies Confirm. From the world of science — as opposed to grant-troughing junk science — two more studies confirming that the man-made global warming scare is a myth. One, a study by Scafetta et al, published in International Journal of Heat and Technology, confirms that the "Pause" in global warming is real — and that "climate change" is much more likely the result of natural, cyclical fluctuations than man-made CO2 emissions.

The New York Times Embraces Fake Science, Fake Engineering, and Fake Economics. Global warming is now called climate change because the globe has not warmed for two decades. The "science" behind predictions of global warming due to emissions of CO2 has clearly collapsed. The promoters of the catastrophe are most charitably described as bad scientists and less charitably as snake oil salesmen. The predictions are based on computer models that don't agree with each other and that have failed miserably in predicting the actual global temperature. There is no shortage of distinguished scientists screaming that global warming is a fraud. Even if you believe the junk science of climate change, the CO2 emissions are concentrated in Asia. Reducing CO2 emissions in the U.S. at great cost makes no sense because the supposed problem is in Asia.

Another Climate Prediction Gone off the Rails. Winter started early this year. The first blizzard of the season in Montana broke a snow record with 30 inches during the first week of October, barely a few weeks into fall. In my state of Colorado too, with 11 inches of snow in Grand Mesa. Prompting the local CBS affiliate to proclaim, "The snow season is off to a big start in western Colorado!" Town and Country magazine, which caters to one percenters in predominantly blue Northeastern enclaves, had their own forecast. Warning readers, "Prepare to Bundle Up: Winter 2017 & 2018 Is Going to Be Unusually Cold." Predicting for the enlightened #NeverTrump residents of New York and Boston, "an above average amount of snowfall" and "a colder winter than last year." [...] Do the smart set at the NY Times find any irony or contradiction in the Town and Country story about more snow and their own 2014 article titled, "The End of Snow?" Ski mountains predicted to be brown rather than white.

Now it's a War on Pipelines. The prestigious journal Nature Geoscience recently published a careful study that found there has been far less planetary warming since 1998 than alarmist scientists and computer models had predicted. The models are based on the assumption that carbon dioxide drives climate change, and they "run too hot," resulting in predictions that deviate from actual temperature measurements more and more every year. But instead of admitting they were wrong, the usual strident suspects in the climate crisis industry doubled down and attacked the study and any news outlet that called attention to it. Even Britain's BBC denounced the inconvenient study and displayed not a whit of apology over its climate chaos claims.

Judges Forcing Trump to Reverse Climate "Endangerment Finding". Nine years ago, President Obama's Environmental Protection Agency issued an "Endangerment Finding," claiming man-made global warming posed an imminent threat to Americans. The Finding, however, was based on computerized climate models that couldn't even successfully hind-cast the weather we'd had over the past century — much less forecast earth's climate 100 years into the future. The earth's climate has always changed, often abruptly. EPA essentially asserted that 80 percent of our energy "warmed the earth" and represented a long-term risk. Obama's team thus bet in 2009 that the earth's strong warming from 1976â€“98 would continue. But it didn't. Never mind all those recent "hottest year" claims from NOAA and NASA. Satellites, our most honest indicator, say our planet's temperature has risen an insignificant 0.02 degrees C since 1998.

Clevfan4life · January 1, 2018

And now the finale.....its like a broken record.

"Plimer is the former non-executive director of CBH Resources Limited from 1998 to 2010, former non-executive director of Angel Mining plc from 2003 to 2005, former director of Kimberley Metals Limited from 2008 to 2009, former director of KBL Mining Limited from 2008 to 2009 and former director of Ormil Energy Limited from 2010 to 2011.^[3]^[16]

He is currently the non-executive deputy chairman of KEFI Minerals since 2006,^[17]independent non-executive director of Ivanhoe Australia Limited since 2007,^[18] chairman of TNT Mines Limited since 2010,^[11]^[19] non-executive director of Niuminco Group Limited (formerly DSF International Holdings Limited) since 2011,^[20]^[21] and non-executive director of Silver City Minerals Limited since 2011.^[3]^[16]^[22]^[23]^[24] Plimer was appointed director of Roy Hill Holdings and Queensland Coal Investments in 2012.^[25]

According to a columnist in The Age, Plimer earned over $400,000 (AUD) from several of these companies, and he has mining shares and options worth hundreds of thousands of Australian dollars.^[26] Plimer has stated that his business interests do not affect the independence of his beliefs.^[22] He has also warned that the proposed Australian carbon-trading scheme could decimate the Australian mining industry.^[6]^[27]"

Clevfan4life · January 1, 2018

Everytime they wheel out someone they call a "credible scientist"....he's literally bankrolled by fossil fuels. Case dismissed, again.

we do this everytime cal but u never learn

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