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Tacosman

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1) No, the players aren't good enough.  It's a terrible roster and terrible team.  There is a lack of good veterans on this team. there is a lack of good young players on this team.  There is a lack of good players or even average players on this team period.  The team sucks.  It has one of the worst 4 rosters in the league.  It has the worst starting qb situation in the league.  The list of players on this team that could start for most other teams is pretty small.  Some of this has to do with poor drafting over the last 3 years.  Corey Coleman as a #15 draft pick has been a complete joke.  Peppers as a first round pick is a bad nightmare.  Carson Wentz is going to finish in the top 3 in the mvp race and likely would have won without the late season injury. The GM has already been rightfully fired for those misses.  

So we know the players suck....but

2) Hue sucks as well.  Even with a terrible roster by nfl standards, 1-31 is way way below expectations.  The expected w-l record of our team based on talent/roster over the past 2 seasons is probably 7-25 to 9-23.  IOW, still very bad and one of the worst 4-5 teams in the league over that period.  Because thats where our roster is.  But 1-31 is such an anomoly with *ANY* nfl roster that you have to believe the schemes and the HC has to be a part of the failure to meet expectations.  We can feel confident that we do not have a quality head coach.  Quality head coaches simply would never go 1-31 in the nfl with any roster.  

Hue should be fired.  Haslam will rightfully get a lot of criticism for not firing him.  

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13 minutes ago, Browns149 said:

0-16 is going to happen again with Hue still here

very unlikely....even if you have all the pieces present for 0-16(bad roster, bad coaching)...it's still very hard to do in the nfl.  

And we'll be even better from a roster standpoint next year than this.  Continuing to be so bad to get #1 picks guarantees that.

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I don't know who I hate more, Art or Jimmy.... Art for taking the REAL Browns away and forcing this v2.0 impostor on us, or Jimmy for intentionally trying to lose - it's either that or he is the most incompetent person walking the planet...... FUKC you both. 

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12 hours ago, Tacosman said:

very unlikely....even if you have all the pieces present for 0-16(bad roster, bad coaching)...it's still very hard to do in the nfl.  

And we'll be even better from a roster standpoint next year than this.  Continuing to be so bad to get #1 picks guarantees that.

We had the #1 pick last year and they got worse.  

Hue Jackson is the worst coach in NFL history. 0-16 is coming again 

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10 hours ago, The Gipper said:

I don't think the talent is that bad

Couldn't agree more with you Gip.  The quality of young players is much better than what most on this board is willing to admit.  I hate to say this, but Hue is just horrible and we do need a new HC.  Especially with the group of young talent we'll be drafting.  Please Dorsey, make this draft count!!!

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3 hours ago, 7moses7 said:

Can we all stop calling him Hue  and just call him Uncle Fester until he is gone 

 

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