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On Friday 1/5/2018 from vegasinsider.com 

ODDS TO WIN 2017-18 SUPER BOWL LII (2/4/18)
Team Odds
New England Patriots 2/1
Minnesota Vikings 9/2
Pittsburgh Steelers 6/1
Philadelphia Eagles 10/1
New Orleans Saints 10/1
Los Angeles Rams 10/1
Kansas City Chiefs 16/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 20/1
Atlanta Falcons 20/1
Carolina Panthers 25/1
Tennessee Titans 100/1
Buffalo Bills 100/1
 
ODDS TO WIN 2017-18 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP (7/21/18)
Team Odds
New England Patriots 10/13
Pittsburgh Steelers 5/2
Kansas City Chiefs 8/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 10/1
Buffalo Bills 40/1
Tennessee Titans 40/1
 
ODDS TO WIN 2017-18 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP (7/21/18)
Team Odds
Minnesota Vikings 9/5
Philadelphia Eagles 3/1
New Orleans Saints 5/1
Los Angeles Rams 5/1
Atlanta Falcons 10/1
Carolina Panthers 12/1

SO THERE YOU GO........

 

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In the FWIW department, if you look at the betting trend under money it's pretty big on KC & ATL.....but we'll see on that.

The NFC owns a 26-25 edge over the AFC in the first 51 Super Bowl matchups. The Pittsburgh Steelers have the most Super Bowl wins at six, while the Dallas Cowboys, New England Patriots and San Francisco 49ers all have five.

First Round Saturday Jan 6, 2018
TENNESSEE TITANS @ KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
4:35 PM Game Time Record Line Betting Trend
Teams Win-Loss Streak  Open Current Spread Money O/U
101 Tennessee  (9-7) (3-5 A)  W-1  44.5 44.5 52% 38% 35%
102 Kansas City  (10-6) (6-2 H)  W-4  -8 -8.5 48% 62% 65%
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ATLANTA FALCONS @ LOS ANGELES RAMS
8:15 PM Game Time Record Line Betting Trend
Teams Win-Loss Streak  Open Current Spread Money O/U
103 Atlanta  (10-6) (5-3 A)  W-1  50 48 58% 71% 68%
104 L.A. Rams  (11-5) (4-4 H)  L-1  -5 -6 42% 29% 32%
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First Round Sunday Jan 7, 2018
BUFFALO BILLS @ JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
1:05 PM Game Time Record Line Betting Trend
Teams Win-Loss Streak  Open Current Spread Money O/U
105 Buffalo  (9-7) (3-5 A)  W-1  40 39.5 47% 76% 39%
106 Jacksonville  (10-6) (6-2 H)  L-2  -8.5 -8.5 53% 24% 61%
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CAROLINA PANTHERS @ NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
4:40 PM Game Time Record Line Betting Trend
Teams Win-Loss Streak  Open Current Spread Money O/U
107 Carolina  (11-5) (5-3 A)  L-1  48.5 47.5 52% 64% 47%
108 New Orleans  (11-5) (7-1 H)  L-1  -6 -6.5 48% 36% 53%
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I could care less as long as the Steelers don't win.  I would actually root on NE just because they would get their 6th ring, which ties the Steelers.  My wife is a Steelers fan, and just keeps rubbing their 6 rings in my face.  So any one that wins 6 is fine with me. 

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1 hour ago, dawg2fan said:

I could care less as long as the Steelers don't win.  I would actually root on NE just because they would get their 6th ring, which ties the Steelers.  My wife is a Steelers fan, and just keeps rubbing their 6 rings in my face.  So any one that wins 6 is fine with me. 

Well DAL and SF aren't in it now, maybe DAL eventually so we're stuck rooting for NE or hopefully not the NFC in SB LII (gasp!). Oh geezzz, can the stlrz lose an AFC earlier round match? Something to hope for. :huh:

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1 hour ago, dawg2fan said:

I could care less as long as the Steelers don't win.  I would actually root on NE just because they would get their 6th ring, which ties the Steelers.  My wife is a Steelers fan, and just keeps rubbing their 6 rings in my face.  So any one that wins 6 is fine with me. 

6 is not the operative number.    The operative number is 13.   Those are the number of Championship the Green Bay Packers have won.   6 doesn't even match the number of titles the Browns have won.

Packers 13

Bears 9

Browns/Giants  8 each.

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13 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

6 is not the operative number.    The operative number is 13.   Those are the number of Championship the Green Bay Packers have won.   6 doesn't even match the number of titles the Browns have won.

Packers 13

Bears 9

Browns/Giants  8 each.

The only thing being in the last 51 years with the expanded NFL it is much harder to win a championship and if you're under 58 or maybe 60 you've never experienced anything but the Super Bowl era. But we old farts older than 60 love to reminisce about the good old days and single bar helmets and all that stuff.

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43 minutes ago, The Gipper said:

6 is not the operative number.    The operative number is 13.   Those are the number of Championship the Green Bay Packers have won.   6 doesn't even match the number of titles the Browns have won.

Packers 13

Bears 9

Browns/Giants  8 each.

My wife's family would argue that any Championship before the SuperBowl era does not count.  So, everything the Browns won before that era does not count, regardless of how much I try to argue.  So to put it mildy, they even have me believing that our wins don't count.  It's sick, but that's the way it is.

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1 hour ago, mjp28 said:

Well DAL and SF aren't in it now, maybe DAL eventually so we're stuck rooting for NE or hopefully not the NFC in SB LII (gasp!). Oh geezzz, can the stlrz lose an AFC earlier round match? Something to hope for. :huh:

I pray someone beats them.  Of course, I don't let my wife know this.  Just put on the sad face and pretend I'm upset.  My least favorite teams are the Steelers and the Cowboys.  So sick of the "America Team" with the Cowboys and they haven't done anything lately. 

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2 hours ago, The Gipper said:

6 is not the operative number.    The operative number is 13.   Those are the number of Championship the Green Bay Packers have won.   6 doesn't even match the number of titles the Browns have won.

Packers 13

Bears 9

Browns/Giants  8 each.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give it a rest already you fossil. lol

AAFC titles, equivalent to the modern day Arena Bowl championships are not recognized by the NFL.

The operative number is 6, and the only thing that matters in todays football world are Super Bowls.

I bet even Browns fans grow weary of your "feel better about yourself because we actually have more Championships than the Steelers" rhetoric.

But if it works for you then by all means keep going with it.

 

 

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On 1/6/2018 at 1:32 PM, dawg2fan said:

My wife's family would argue that any Championship before the SuperBowl era does not count.  So, everything the Browns won before that era does not count, regardless of how much I try to argue.  So to put it mildy, they even have me believing that our wins don't count.  It's sick, but that's the way it is.

Your wife's family are fuyucking idiots.

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On 1/6/2018 at 2:51 PM, StinkHole said:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give it a rest already you fossil. lol

AAFC titles, equivalent to the modern day Arena Bowl championships are not recognized by the NFL.

The operative number is 6, and the only thing that matters in todays football world are Super Bowls.

I bet even Browns fans grow weary of your "feel better about yourself because we actually have more Championships than the Steelers" rhetoric.

But if it works for you then by all means keep going with it.

 

 

Speaking of fuyucking idiots.   The operative number is 13....even though you are stupid of a fuyucking idiot to believe it. 

Do they not count NBA titles before 1970?  Do they not count World Series titles before 1970?  Do they not count NHL titles before 1970?  They count them all....and all those leagues have expanded as much as the NFL.   The "Super Bowl" is merely an expansion of the playoffs due to the expansion of the teams in the league.  Its just that the other teams didn't come up with some marketing gimmick for their versions of the expanded playoffs. 

And the reason it works...is because it is the pure truth and fact of the matter.

The only titles that count are the last one and the next one...the rest are all just historical data. 

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On 7/1/2018 at 12:36 AM, wargograw said:

This Vikings D is nowhere near that good. 

 Is ranked 1st in points allowed and 1st in yards allowed. I'd say they have dominated almost every game this year. And I am not going to compare stats with Denver's 2015 defense, but their attack is way better than 2015 Broncos' one. 

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On 1/6/2018 at 6:36 PM, wargograw said:

This Vikings D is nowhere near that good. 

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-yards-per-game#

NFL TEAM DEFENSE RANKINGS, wow Cleveland at #14 better than some playoff teams

Season:                                                                          2003                                                                         2004                                                                         2005                                                                         2006                                                                         2007                                                                         2008                                                                         2009                                                                         2010                                                                         2011                                                                         2012                                                                         2013                                                                         2014                                                                         2015                                                                         2016                                                                         2017                                                         
Date: 
Rank Team 2017 Last 3 Last 1 Home Away 2016
1 Minnesota 275.9 200.3 201.0 248.5 303.4 314.9
2 Jacksonville 284.8 288.0 263.0 281.1 288.0 321.7
3 Denver 290.0 331.0 379.0 262.8 317.2 316.1
4 Philadelphia 306.5 359.7 301.0 280.6 332.4 342.8
5 Pittsburgh 306.9 320.3 374.0 312.4 301.4 339.2
6 Arizona 310.9 269.0 296.0 287.2 334.6 305.2
7 Dallas 318.1 216.0 219.0 328.0 308.1 348.0
8 Chicago 319.1 291.3 327.0 322.9 315.4 346.8
9 Atlanta 320.9 308.0 361.0 301.1 338.4 376.9
10 Carolina 322.6 391.0 410.0 331.0 315.1 359.8
11 Seattle 323.2 297.7 259.0 319.1 327.2 319.6
12 Baltimore 325.1 307.0 359.0 329.4 320.8 322.1
13 Tennessee 327.8 318.7 325.0 344.1 313.3 357.5
14 Cleveland 328.1 327.3 348.0 303.1 347.6 392.4
15 LA Chargers 328.4 342.7 336.0 321.6 335.1 347.1
16 Miami 335.7 348.0 312.0 284.3 375.7 381.7
17 LA Rams 338.5 383.0 322.0 339.8 337.3 337.0
18 Cincinnati 339.1 311.3 312.0 327.9 350.2 350.8
19 New Orleans 341.0 399.7 413.0 353.6 326.9 375.4
20 Houston 346.6 348.0 250.0 322.6 370.6 300.1
21 Buffalo 347.8 332.3 230.0 360.9 336.1 357.0
22 Washington 347.9 332.3 381.0 289.8 406.0 377.9
23 Green Bay 348.9 326.3 356.0 323.2 374.5 374.2
24 Oakland 350.1 347.0 495.0 316.4 376.2 370.1
25 San Francisco 351.6 350.3 251.0 383.2 319.9 406.4
26 NY Jets 352.2 373.7 330.0 344.5 360.0 342.4
27 Detroit 355.8 323.0 256.0 364.5 347.0 356.6
28 New England 366.0 328.7 247.0 360.5 371.5 328.3
29 Kansas City 367.0 359.3 397.0 347.2 389.2 369.7
30 Indianapolis 367.1 331.3 209.0 364.8 369.4 382.9
31 NY Giants 373.2 275.7 197.0 361.5 384.9 343.6
32 Tampa Bay 378.1 329.3 323.0 348.4 407.8 367.9
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IF YOU BELIEVE IN SUCH THINGS, THE SIMULATION RESULTS A LOT OF PLAYOFF TEAMS WAY DOWN THE LIST.

Rankings & Projections Summary

Highlights from our predictive power ratings and simulations of currently scheduled games.

Rank Rating Team Proj W Proj L Playoffs Win SB
1 8.8
 
New England (13-3)
13.0 3.0 100.0% 34.3%
2 5.8
 
Philadelphia (13-3)
13.0 3.0 100.0% 18.5%
3 5.6
 
Pittsburgh (13-3)
13.0 3.0 100.0% 13.1%
4 5.6
 
Minnesota (13-3)
13.0 3.0 100.0% 14.0%
5 4.4
 
New Orleans (12-5)
11.0 5.0 100.0% 7.5%
6 3.7
 
Jacksonville (11-6)
10.0 6.0 100.0% 5.8%
7 3.5
 
LA Rams (11-6)
11.0 5.0 100.0% 0.0%
8 3.5
 
Atlanta (11-6)
10.0 6.0 100.0% 5.2%
9 3.3
 
Kansas City (10-7)
10.0 6.0 100.0% 0.0%
10 3.0
 
Baltimore (9-7)
9.0 7.0 0.0% 0.0%
11 2.9
 
Seattle (9-7)
9.0 7.0 0.0% 0.0%
12 2.4
 
Carolina (11-6)
11.0 5.0 100.0% 0.0%
13 2.1
 
LA Chargers (9-7)
9.0 7.0 0.0% 0.0%
14 2.1
 
Dallas (9-7)
9.0 7.0 0.0% 0.0%
15 1.3
 
Detroit (9-7)
9.0 7.0 0.0% 0.0%
16 -0.0
 
Green Bay (7-9)
7.0 9.0 0.0% 0.0%
17 -0.9
 
Tennessee (10-7)
9.0 7.0 100.0% 1.5%
18 -1.4
 
Tampa Bay (5-11)
5.0 11.0 0.0% 0.0%
19 -1.6
 
Oakland (6-10)
6.0 10.0 0.0% 0.0%
20 -1.8
 
Washington (7-9)
7.0 9.0 0.0% 0.0%
21 -2.1
 
Arizona (8-8)
8.0 8.0 0.0% 0.0%
22 -2.1
 
Cincinnati (7-9)
7.0 9.0 0.0% 0.0%
23 -3.2
 
Chicago (5-11)
5.0 11.0 0.0% 0.0%
24 -3.3
 
Denver (5-11)
5.0 11.0 0.0% 0.0%
25 -3.3
 
Buffalo (9-8)
9.0 7.0 100.0% 0.0%
26 -3.5
 
Houston (4-12)
4.0 12.0 0.0% 0.0%
27 -4.3
 
San Francisco (6-10)
6.0 10.0 0.0% 0.0%
28 -4.5
 
NY Giants (3-13)
3.0 13.0 0.0% 0.0%
29 -4.7
 
Miami (6-10)
6.0 10.0 0.0% 0.0%
30 -6.1
 
NY Jets (5-11)
5.0 11.0 0.0% 0.0%
31 -6.4
 
Indianapolis (4-12)
4.0 12.0 0.0% 0.0%
32 -8.8
 
Cleveland (0-16)
0.0 16.0 0.0% 0.0%
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MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS EARLIER? 2017 ATS NUMBERS.....

NFL Team ATS Trends                                                      

Team ATS Record Cover % MOV ATS +/-
Minnesota 11-5-0 68.8% 8.1 +4.8
New England 11-5-0 68.8% 10.1 +1.5
Buffalo 10-6-1 62.5% -3.8 -1.4
Philadelphia 10-6-0 62.5% 10.1 +6.0
NY Jets 9-6-1 60.0% -5.2 +1.1
Carolina 10-7-0 58.8% 1.8 +1.0
Kansas City 10-7-0 58.8% 4.4 +0.7
Cincinnati 9-7-0 56.2% -3.7 -2.8
San Francisco 9-7-0 56.2% -3.2 +1.1
Tennessee 9-7-1 56.2% -1.2 -2.4
Chicago 8-7-1 53.3% -3.5 +1.2
Dallas 8-7-1 53.3% 1.4 -0.8
Detroit 8-7-1 53.3% 2.1 +1.6
LA Chargers 8-7-1 53.3% 5.2 +3.8
Baltimore 8-7-1 53.3% 5.8 +3.5
Jacksonville 9-8-0 52.9% 9.2 +6.3
LA Rams 9-8-0 52.9% 8.0 +5.5
New Orleans 9-8-0 52.9% 7.5 +3.9
Indianapolis 8-8-0 50.0% -8.8 -3.3
Atlanta 8-9-0 47.1% 3.0 -0.6
NY Giants 7-9-0 43.8% -8.9 -4.3
Houston 7-9-0 43.8% -6.1 -2.6
Pittsburgh 7-9-0 43.8% 6.1 +0.3
Green Bay 7-9-0 43.8% -4.0 -2.3
Washington 7-9-0 43.8% -2.9 -1.9
Tampa Bay 6-9-1 40.0% -2.9 -0.8
Arizona 6-9-1 40.0% -4.1 -2.2
Seattle 6-9-1 40.0% 2.1 -0.7
Miami 5-9-2 35.7% -7.0 -2.4
Oakland 5-9-2 35.7% -4.5 -4.3
Denver 4-11-1 26.7% -5.8 -6.0
Cleveland 4-12-0 25.0% -11.0 -4.4
 
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On 1/6/2018 at 2:51 PM, StinkHole said:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give it a rest already you fossil. lol

AAFC titles, equivalent to the modern day Arena Bowl championships are not recognized by the NFL.

The operative number is 6, and the only thing that matters in todays football world are Super Bowls.

I bet even Browns fans grow weary of your "feel better about yourself because we actually have more Championships than the Steelers" rhetoric.

But if it works for you then by all means keep going with it.

 

 

Everyone has their biases. Most people wouldn’t consider the 70s Steelers viable because they were the first brand managers for steroids in football. Just because they got away with belichecking their way to some early Super Bowl wins doesn’t mean mark McGuire belongs in the hall of fame. 

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19 hours ago, Nero said:

 Is ranked 1st in points allowed and 1st in yards allowed. I'd say they have dominated almost every game this year. And I am not going to compare stats with Denver's 2015 defense, but their attack is way better than 2015 Broncos' one. 

No one is talking about that defense as transcendent or anything. They were about 15 Denver. PFF wrote a ton of articles saying it was by far the best defense since they started the site. No one's saying that stuff about Minnesota. 

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1 hour ago, wargograw said:

No one is talking about that defense as transcendent or anything. They were about 15 Denver. PFF wrote a ton of articles saying it was by far the best defense since they started the site. No one's saying that stuff about Minnesota. 

It's not about being trascendent, it's about being effective. 

Truly what Denver achieved in 2015 is outstanding. Peyton had an awful year and they even had to win some games with Osweiler under center. That offense semt like a joke and they could pull out wins with their defense. I was amazed at Superbowl L, I never thought you could win ONLY with defense.

Minnesota's defense probably can't be compared to that defense, but I have seen them dominating games against good teams like Atlanta and Rams. Their only loss lately has been against Carolina, which has a great D. 

It's the best defense among the ones that are left and it's the most balanced one (Philadelphia or Carolina rely on their front 7, for example). They have best defense and a good offense (11th in the league), I prefer that than teams with a very good O and a bad D (like Pats, but they seem to have fixed that).

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1 hour ago, Nero said:

It's not about being trascendent, it's about being effective. 

Truly what Denver achieved in 2015 is outstanding. Peyton had an awful year and they even had to win some games with Osweiler under center. That offense semt like a joke and they could pull out wins with their defense. I was amazed at Superbowl L, I never thought you could win ONLY with defense.

Minnesota's defense probably can't be compared to that defense, but I have seen them dominating games against good teams like Atlanta and Rams. Their only loss lately has been against Carolina, which has a great D. 

It's the best defense among the ones that are left and it's the most balanced one (Philadelphia or Carolina rely on their front 7, for example). They have best defense and a good offense (11th in the league), I prefer that than teams with a very good O and a bad D (like Pats, but they seem to have fixed that).

I'm not saying it's not the best defense. Most certainly is. But Ag was talking specifically about that 2015 team as a comparison for this Minnesota team, and I simply don't think it is. I think it can and will be had.

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6 minutes ago, wargograw said:

I'm not saying it's not the best defense. Most certainly is. But Ag was talking specifically about that 2015 team as a comparison for this Minnesota team, and I simply don't think it is. I think it can and will be had.

Well, I think that Ag mentioned Denver because it's the most obvious example of 'defense wins championships' and also the last one. Last year  Superbowl was more about offensive teams, I'd say.

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3 hours ago, wargograw said:

I'm not saying it's not the best defense. Most certainly is. But Ag was talking specifically about that 2015 team as a comparison for this Minnesota team, and I simply don't think it is. I think it can and will be had.

I used Denver as an example of defenses winning playoffs. I did not say Minn. had an defense that good, but they are a very fine defense capable of taking a team there, especially given they have a better offense than the '15 Denver team which relied on Ossie to get them there over a lot of the season and Peyton to provide "adequate" service to win the SB. They gave the MVP to the right guy.

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THE MONDAY UPDATE from vegasinsider.com 

NFL Future Odds

 
ODDS TO WIN 2017-18 SUPER BOWL LII (2/4/18)
Team Odds
New England Patriots 7/4
Minnesota Vikings 7/2
Pittsburgh Steelers 11/2
New Orleans Saints 6/1
Atlanta Falcons 15/2
Philadelphia Eagles 12/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 16/1
Tennessee Titans 40/1
 
ODDS TO WIN 2017-18 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP (7/21/18)
Team Odds
New England Patriots 4/7
Pittsburgh Steelers 9/4
Jacksonville Jaguars 8/1
Tennessee Titans 25/1
 
ODDS TO WIN 2017-18 NFC CHAMPIONSHIP (7/21/18)
Team Odds
Minnesota Vikings 7/5
New Orleans Saints 11/4
Atlanta Falcons 15/4
Philadelphia Eagles 5/1
 

How To Bet NFL Futures

The “Odds to Win” wager in pro football is also commonly referred to as a future wager. Bettors must correctly select a team to win an event that takes place a later time. The money wagered will be tied up until there is an outcome and bettors will receive fixed odds when they place the wager. The future odds are normally updated on a weekly basis and wagers can be placed throughout the season.

To figure out your Win Amount, take the odds and multiply by the amount wagered. Ex. Green Bay (8/1) to win the NFC Championship. The Packers are listed as an 8/1 betting choice to win the NFC Championship. If you wager $100 on Green Bay to win the NFC and they capture the championship, then you would win $800 (8 ÷ 1 x 100). You would collect $900, which includes your win and stake ($100).

 

Odds provided by BetOnline.ag
Updated Mon, Jan. 8, 10:00 AM ET

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On 1/6/2018 at 1:09 PM, mjp28 said:

The only thing being in the last 51 years with the expanded NFL it is much harder to win a championship and if you're under 58 or maybe 60 you've never experienced anything but the Super Bowl era. But we old farts older than 60 love to reminisce about the good old days and single bar helmets and all that stuff.

Actually...it may be much easier now to win a Championship...in terms of a teams chances to win.   What pct. of teams make the postseason?   12 out of 32 teams or 37.5%.

But take like 1964 or 1965....only 2 teams in the NFL made the postseason.  That is 14.2% of the teams.   You can't win the postseason if you don't get into the post season.   And a team is now about 2.5 times more likely to make the post season than they were then. 

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