Westside Steve Posted January 6, 2018 Report Posted January 6, 2018 The shape of water Fox Searchlight R. 119 min Guillermo del Toro isn’t somebody I would call one of the world’s great directors but that’s only because he’s done too many second-rate films. I get it, everybody has to pay bills but in his defense the guy is responsible for some pretty incredible work remember PAN’S LABYRINTH? Now just as mesmerizing comes THE SHAPE OF WATER one of the most original films of the year oh, and the best. It’s funny because I used the term original but as I watch the film I saw elements of a lot of other films including FRANKENSTEIN, the CREATURE FROM the BLACK LAGOON, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST and even FREE WILLY. That might sound a little bit ridiculous but once you see the film and are as impressed by it as I was you’ll understand. I’ll give you some hints without really giving up the entire story. It’s like Frankenstein because there is a misunderstood creature feared and hated by many. It’s a bit like the Creature because the creature in this film owes a great deal of his look to the original Gill man from the famous Lagoon. Sally Hawkins is Elizabeth, a mute cleaning woman in a research facility in Baltimore Maryland which just happens to house a spectacular find, an amphibious creature held captive by research people and the military. One of the brilliant hooks is that she can’t speak and neither can he but the friendship speaks louder than words . One of his captors is Strickland (Michael Shannon) one of the most reprehensible characters you will see this year. Even though this creature is certainly an advanced race with powers above and beyond our own Strickland and the Army plan to kill him to keep the Russians from getting their hands on it. And Free Willy because, oh come on you get it. Like I say these days everybody and his brother has a computer and a few hundred bucks can slap together some impressive Graphics but this is really out of the ordinary. A gritty and surreal early 60s look that never actually wears thin. With a satisfying ending this is definitely del Toro’s best work since Labyrinth. A WSS
The Gipper Posted March 21, 2018 Report Posted March 21, 2018 B+ or A- for me. It won the Oscar and that is OK....mainly because I so no other movie that for me was a slam dunk for the award. Just one note: I saw it recently and watched some of the extras.....and very little of the creature itself was CG. they said the only thing that was CG was the upper head movements.....because the guy in the costume could only move his mouth. His eyes and forehead expressions though had to be CGed in because of those costume restrictions. Also...in the extras on the video....they said exactly what you did. Del Toro stated specifically that Frankenstein, Beauty and the Beast and Creature from the Black Lagoon were films that inspired this one in terms of story, character, setting etc. He didn't mention Free Willy....but it is absolutely an apt comparison basically.
jbluhm86 Posted March 22, 2018 Report Posted March 22, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 1:50 PM, Westside Steve said: The shape of water Fox Searchlight R. 119 min Guillermo del Toro isn’t somebody I would call one of the world’s great directors but that’s only because he’s done too many second-rate films. I get it, everybody has to pay bills but in his defense the guy is responsible for some pretty incredible work remember PAN’S LABYRINTH? Now just as mesmerizing comes THE SHAPE OF WATER one of the most original films of the year oh, and the best. It’s funny because I used the term original but as I watch the film I saw elements of a lot of other films including FRANKENSTEIN, the CREATURE FROM the BLACK LAGOON, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST and even FREE WILLY. That might sound a little bit ridiculous but once you see the film and are as impressed by it as I was you’ll understand. I’ll give you some hints without really giving up the entire story. It’s like Frankenstein because there is a misunderstood creature feared and hated by many. It’s a bit like the Creature because the creature in this film owes a great deal of his look to the original Gill man from the famous Lagoon. Sally Hawkins is Elizabeth, a mute cleaning woman in a research facility in Baltimore Maryland which just happens to house a spectacular find, an amphibious creature held captive by research people and the military. One of the brilliant hooks is that she can’t speak and neither can he but the friendship speaks louder than words . One of his captors is Strickland (Michael Shannon) one of the most reprehensible characters you will see this year. Even though this creature is certainly an advanced race with powers above and beyond our own Strickland and the Army plan to kill him to keep the Russians from getting their hands on it. And Free Willy because, oh come on you get it. Like I say these days everybody and his brother has a computer and a few hundred bucks can slap together some impressive Graphics but this is really out of the ordinary. A gritty and surreal early 60s look that never actually wears thin. With a satisfying ending this is definitely del Toro’s best work since Labyrinth. A WSS Well that's one way of phrasing that (I think you know what scene i'm referring to).
Westside Steve Posted March 23, 2018 Author Report Posted March 23, 2018 20 hours ago, jbluhm86 said: Well that's one way of phrasing that (I think you know what scene i'm referring to). WSS
The Cysko Kid Posted March 26, 2018 Report Posted March 26, 2018 I actually liked grinding Nemo...er...the shape of water, that is.
jbluhm86 Posted March 27, 2018 Report Posted March 27, 2018 21 hours ago, The Cysko Kid said: I actually liked grinding Nemo...er...the shape of water, that is. Someone is a Ben Shapiro fan, perhaps?
The Cysko Kid Posted March 27, 2018 Report Posted March 27, 2018 Actually my wife picked that up somewhere. I had a good laugh.
JPPT1974 Posted April 8, 2018 Report Posted April 8, 2018 Either he has not directed a lot of first rate films due to not giving the chance or that he prefers Independent films over mainstream.
Westside Steve Posted April 8, 2018 Author Report Posted April 8, 2018 27 minutes ago, JPPT1974 said: Either he has not directed a lot of first rate films due to not giving the chance or that he prefers Independent films over mainstream. I have no doubt it's the latter. Did you see Pan's Labyrinth? Pretty stunning. Yes and I know there's a lot of crap littered amongst the filmography but... WSS
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