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Westside Steve Grand Master

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14 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Trump was head and shoulders above no one. Both sucked. 

And posters that are now his biggest fans absolutely didn't like Trump to begin with. They were forced into liking him. You'd think they were backing "Real American Trump" from the beginning now though.

No offense intended but I don't agree with you, not that that's a shock. Like Ross Perot  Ron Paul or George Wallace or John Anderson or Gary Johnson there is often that feeling amongst American voters that they like the outsider and in this case I was intrigued by that even though I thought the Republicans might be better off with a more experienced politician. I think the Mindless hatred of Donald Trump is a relatively new phenomenon. If the Trump haters had nominated any other Democrat things may well have been different. But no, I don't hold him in equal contempt with Hillary and never did.

Also after 8 years the enthusiasm for any political party begins to show signs of wear.

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12 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

Not so much I wanted her to win, more that I thought Trump would be a foreign policy disaster. He has been effectively destroying our alliances just as I feared he would do. None of our allies believe a thing he says now because they are all aware he is a chronic pathological liar. Too bad none of his most ardent supporters understand that at all.

Lol... and who is your source for news, Rachel Maddow? 

To brazenly claim Trump is a foreign policy "DISASTER"  is a bit over to top don't you think? These hyperbole type assertions by you leftist fuccks are the byproducts of your hate for the man.

So what did you want Trump to do...go on an "Apologize for America tour" bowing before every foreign leader?

In fact Trumps foreign policy thus far has been better or at least equal than those before him, and for every Trump foreign policy failure you can muster up, I can provide a success...therefore your claim is "disaster" is liberal garbage.

Successes? Take your pick:

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=1jLwWueRDcbKjwTXwoygDw&q=trump's+foreign+policy+accomplishments&oq=trumps+foeign+policy+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.4.0i13k1l10.1347.8809.0.12327.22.21.0.0.0.0.207.3811.0j17j4.21.0..2..0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.21.3800.0..0j35i39k1j0i46i67k1j46i67k1j0i131i67k1j0i67k1j0i131k1j0i131i20i263i264k1j0i131i20i263k1j0i20i264k1j0i131i20i264k1j0i10k1j0i20i263i264k1j0i20i263k1j0i22i10i30k1j0i22i30k1.0.qRLyKKXx-I0

 

 

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7 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

No offense intended but I don't agree with you, not that that's a shock. Like Ross Perot  Ron Paul or George Wallace or John Anderson or Gary Johnson there is often that feeling amongst American voters that they like the outsider and in this case I was intrigued by that even though I thought the Republicans might be better off with a more experienced politician. I think the Mindless hatred of Donald Trump is a relatively new phenomenon. If the Trump haters had nominated any other Democrat things may well have been different. But no, I don't hold him in equal contempt with Hillary and never did.

Also after 8 years the enthusiasm for any political party begins to show signs of wear.

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Of course you don't. But how you compared Hilary and Trump really doesn't matter for where this conversation started. Posters did not like con man trumo to start with, and now he's an honest, Real American. Party first

 

Mindless hatred to balance out mindless allegiance I guess

 

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10 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Of course you don't. But how you compared Hilary and Trump really doesn't matter for where this conversation started. Posters did not like con man trumo to start with, and now he's an honest, Real American. Party first

 

Mindless hatred to balance out mindless allegiance I guess

 

Exactly. If Hillary were a republican you guys, meaning Democrats and Trump haters, would despise her  more than you do Trump. That's par for the course on both sides.

And again there is a set of criteria that separates Democrats and Republicans even though they are hypocrites and it's rare you ever get the direction you choose. Many of those issues are right down party lines so voting a straight ticket in some cases makes sense.

If you are in favor of socialized medicine, open borders, abortion-on-demand, higher taxes on the rich and reparations for slavery there's only one party to vote for no matter how nice the opposing candidate is.

See the underlined portion in case you didn't think I knew that.

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"you guys". I'm not a registered Dem and didn't vote for them. I don't like Trump by any means, but hater seems strong. There are haters on here, they post multiple threads each week (or day) about how bad that person is, and it usually includes insults and name calling towards the person they hate. If my dislike is "hate", how do we describe that?

Hilary is a terrible choice for president now. For her, a lot of that is outside of her ideologies. If she also thought gays were sinners and climate change was a hoax by the Chinese, then yes, she would be worse. 

"On demand abortion" and "reparations for slavery"? Oh boy. But what if I want unlimited guns and segregation? 

"My beliefs most closely align with this candidate" and "Stupid libtard. Conservatives always right, every time!" are two very different things. (and yes, that can go the other way too, we just don't see it here). 

If a third party emerges, or just a more moderate Republican Party that realizes they need to drop some of the outdated social and science policies, then I'm all for it. I'd have no problem voting Rep. 

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13 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

No offense intended but I don't agree with you, not that that's a shock. Like Ross Perot  Ron Paul or George Wallace or John Anderson or Gary Johnson there is often that feeling amongst American voters that they like the outsider and in this case I was intrigued by that even though I thought the Republicans might be better off with a more experienced politician. I think the Mindless hatred of Donald Trump is a relatively new phenomenon. If the Trump haters had nominated any other Democrat things may well have been different. But no, I don't hold him in equal contempt with Hillary and never did.

Also after 8 years the enthusiasm for any political party begins to show signs of wear.

WSS

Trump's personality totally dominated the R debates, and basically silenced Rs that made some sense (Rubio). His tone, and slogan "make America great again" was pretty much the same as Obama's "hope and change."

It was amazing to see the hardcore R stalwarts squirm as Trump kept winning primaries. 

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30 minutes ago, Bob806 said:

Trump's personality totally dominated the R debates, and basically silenced Rs that made some sense (Rubio). His tone, and slogan "make America great again" was pretty much the same as Obama's "hope and change."

It was amazing to see the hardcore R stalwarts squirm as Trump kept winning primaries. 

nah. "hope and change" is nauseatingly vague, with ulterior motives for meanings that relate to socialism.

Trump's slogan is the OPPOSITE of obaMao's, because we are NOT a socialist country, despite some union reps like Trumke

https://books.google.com/books?id=9a8pAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA80&lpg=PA80&dq=hope+and+change+socialism&source=bl&ots=Xvts9juy0H&sig=SCzewAimiNcypl8KIxLf647tjC4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiF9K_J-_TaAhXpzIMKHYgyCZQ4ChDoAQhTMAk#v=onepage&q=hope and change socialism&f=false

and their slogan, "FOrward" did, too.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/apr/30/new-obama-slogan-has-long-ties-marxism-socialism/


Jan 10, 2011 - In an Internet video piece dated September 27, 2010 which recently made the rounds of conservative media, AFL-CIO boss Richard Trumka explains his union's intention to be a tool for social change and to bring about a "progressive America." Though his manner of expression is reminiscent of Boston ..

 

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yet, you stupid woodpecker, Trump outlined his principles upon which he based his MAGA.

obaMao coated his hope and change with nonsense, generalizations and socialist platitudes and identity politics.

go research it yourself, and learn SOMETHING about SOMETHING.

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36 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

yet, you stupid woodpecker, Trump outlined his principles upon which he based his MAGA.

obaMao coated his hope and change with nonsense, generalizations and socialist platitudes and identity politics.

go research it yourself, and learn SOMETHING about SOMETHING.

Cal, you're very clearly being insanely politically biased. It's easier for you to reason this out if you just make up facts and ignore others as you go. You're hopeless

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Of course I don't expect any of you Trumpettes to listen to other conservatives who have some well founded criticism of King Liar.

I expect you to do what all MAGAs do, close your eyes and ears while thinking up a way to salute that does not involve a raised arm at a 45 degree angle. MANA!

Caputo is at least unafraid to give Trumpettes equal time.

 

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Now there's an American I like^^^^. A conservative who did his best to be absolutely truthful, the opposite of the Democrat who has run our deficit up a $Trillion that calls himself a Republican..................King Liar.

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13 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

"you guys". I'm not a registered Dem and didn't vote for them. I don't like Trump by any means, but hater seems strong. There are haters on here, they post multiple threads each week (or day) about how bad that person is, and it usually includes insults and name calling towards the person they hate. If my dislike is "hate", how do we describe that?

Hilary is a terrible choice for president now. For her, a lot of that is outside of her ideologies. If she also thought gays were sinners and climate change was a hoax by the Chinese, then yes, she would be worse. 

"On demand abortion" and "reparations for slavery"? Oh boy. But what if I want unlimited guns and segregation? 

"My beliefs most closely align with this candidate" and "Stupid libtard. Conservatives always right, every time!" are two very different things. (and yes, that can go the other way too, we just don't see it here). 

If a third party emerges, or just a more moderate Republican Party that realizes they need to drop some of the outdated social and science policies, then I'm all for it. I'd have no problem voting Rep. 

Yes Democrats have introduced into Congress bills to study how best to apportion reparations for slavery. Just saying it wasn't Republicans. And yes at least one political candidate who you say you supported quoted on abortion " anytime for any reason" which, while probably to the left of your own position, comes from a Democrat not a Republican.  So what's left? Bickering about whether or not hate is too strong a term?

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9 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Cal, you're very clearly being insanely politically biased. It's easier for you to reason this out if you just make up facts and ignore others as you go. You're hopeless

you never comment on content - you just bitch and attack with stupid beakness - you are a woodypeckerhead, who is a coward and never starts opinion threads because you never have an opinion, and don't want to get attacked like you attack.

   Learn something about life, the world, and stuff going on. Learn to read. Grow up, little stupid birdbrain.

The negative attention and dumbass one liners that you dish out most of the time don't make you look smart.

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