calfoxwc Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 really? I thought surely it was an old story... nope. In the last game where the Browns beat Cincy. Being investigated now. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001086298/article/bengals-nfl-investigating-if-patriots-filmed-sideline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusty Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 While it's known that the patriots will push the limits why would they spy on the worst team in the league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, dusty said: While it's known that the patriots will push the limits why would they spy on the worst team in the league? well, because they do it for all opponents maybe? and/or, the Bengals do have a good defense? because... they have been struggling and losing lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorsRpussies Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Bunch of cheaters. Hopefully they lose several draft picks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Spygate Part II was a false alarm: Here's why Patriots had film crew at Bengals-Browns game New England wasn't cheating and fans don't have to worry about this story taking over the news cycle https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/spygate-part-ii-was-a-false-alarm-heres-why-patriots-had-film-crew-at-bengals-browns-game/ This time around, the only crime committed seems to be not informing all the parties of what was going on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Vambo said: Spygate Part II was a false alarm: Here's why Patriots had film crew at Bengals-Browns game New England wasn't cheating and fans don't have to worry about this story taking over the news cycle https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/spygate-part-ii-was-a-false-alarm-heres-why-patriots-had-film-crew-at-bengals-browns-game/ This time around, the only crime committed seems to be not informing all the parties of what was going on. Of course... Roger GOD-ell is there to pick up the trail and cover they're asses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, Vambo said: Spygate Part II was a false alarm: Here's why Patriots had film crew at Bengals-Browns game New England wasn't cheating and fans don't have to worry about this story taking over the news cycle https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/spygate-part-ii-was-a-false-alarm-heres-why-patriots-had-film-crew-at-bengals-browns-game/ This time around, the only crime committed seems to be not informing all the parties of what was going on. makes no sense at all. reportedly, the sideline signs were being filmed. Buttichek saying they have never seen the films..so what? somebody can get the information from the films, and give it to whoever of the patriots. you don't have to be a pi to figure that out. it doesn't even have to be buttchek. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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calfoxwc Posted December 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 hours ago, calfoxwc said: well, because they do it for all opponents maybe? and/or, the Bengals do have a good defense? because... they have been struggling and losing lately? go look. I clearly said "Bengals". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 now. Do I have this right? The NFL takes a group who makes... "mistakes" to a bad degree, and re-assigns that referee group to..... the PATRIOTS-Eagles game. yeah. nothin to see there. nah. https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/nfl-moves-pete-morelli-crew-off-sunday-night-game-49ers-cardinals-steelers-colts-120115 "The NFL has moved referee Pete Morelli’s crew off the upcoming Sunday night game between Indianapolis and Pittsburgh. Instead, the crew will work an afternoon game between the Eagles and Patriots." But that was back in 2015. Yep. the Patriots owner and goodhell are good buddies okie dokie since before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: go look. I clearly said "Bengals". Is this idiot arguing with himself? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 hours ago, dusty said: While it's known that the patriots will push the limits why would they spy on the worst team in the league? I could compare it to something else...but won't. The bottom line appears to be the familiar Pats mantra: If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Obviously they just got caught and they’ve probably ran recon numerous times this year. unless they are just getting ready for their big game against the Bengals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Yeah, the Patriots need to cheat to beat the worst team in the league. Is that what the thinking on this board is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Thread should be moved to the Political section... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 7 hours ago, Tour2ma said: Thread should be moved to the Political section... Then off a cliff, along with the political forum. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 I mean, the only thing no one is saying (thank God) is that if this was some advanced scouting don't the Browns look like idiots letting them do it? At least a bit right? Anyone, this is classic "boy who cried wolf" to me. Maybe that linked article is true, but I'm not going to buy it. Edit: Guess not-https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28261318/patriots-say-video-crew-filmed-sideline-bengals-browns-game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Orion said: Yeah, the Patriots need to cheat to beat the worst team in the league. Is that what the thinking on this board is? No....the thinking is that cheating seems to be just endemic to their nature...no matter who they are playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, The Gipper said: No....the thinking is that cheating seems to be just endemic to their nature...no matter who they are playing. That's the Bill Belichick school of winning at all cost regardless of any consequences much moreso than every other team and coaches desire to win and excell. It's a sickness with him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, mjp28 said: That's the Bill Belichick school of winning at all cost regardless of any consequences much moreso than every other team and coaches desire to win and excell. It's a sickness with him. He must have caught that disease after he left Cleveland, seeing that he had 4 out of 5 losing seasons here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDDawg Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 13 hours ago, Orion said: Yeah, the Patriots need to cheat to beat the worst team in the league. Is that what the thinking on this board is? It's not what we think it's what Belichick obviously thinks as latest reports state they filmed 8 minutes of Cincinatti's hand signals and substitutions during the game before the videographer was busted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 can dbone get a clue? But he won't get it from the gay princess twins who think they invented football.... https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL/2019/12/10/Patriots-admit-video-crew-filmed-field-during-Bengals-Browns-game/3841575987337/ "Dec. 10 (UPI) -- The New England Patriots have admitted they violated NFL rules after "inappropriately" filming the field when the Cincinnati Bengals played the Cleveland Browns Sunday in Cleveland. " '"We understand and acknowledge that our video crew, which included independent contractors who shot the video, unknowingly violated a league policy by filming the field and sideline from the press box. ' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusty Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 So they basically say "sorry" and it all goes away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, The Gipper said: He must have caught that disease after he left Cleveland, seeing that he had 4 out of 5 losing seasons here. I have Bill at 41-57 (418%) before Tom Brady took over full time on week 3 2001......... Chicken or the egg? I say the yoke is on Bill. That being said, he's still one of the greatest coaches ever, in any sport. ^ cue the crying................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, D Bone said: I have Bill at 41-57 (418%) before Tom Brady took over full time on week 3 2001......... Chicken or the egg? I say the yoke is on Bill. That being said, he's still one of the greatest coaches ever, in any sport. ^ cue the crying................................ Well, he has one of the best records.....as a coach/QB combination. He and Brady are perhaps second only to Paul Brown/Otto Graham in that regard. But, note: After OG left Cleveland, PB was only able to get the Browns into one title game thereafter: 1957 with Tommy O'Connell at QB. BB has never come close without TB (one postseason win with Vinny T. at QB.) It is one of the reasons, to be honest....that I happen to think that Joe Gibbs was such a great coach.....yes, better than BB. He took teams that were QBed by: Joe Theisman, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams to Super Bowl victiories . Lost another with Theisman....None of those QBs came close to HOF consideration.....nor were they considered elite QBs when they played. (except, maybe Theisman for a bit) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Gipper said: It is one of the reasons, to be honest....that I happen to think that Joe Gibbs was such a great coach.....yes, better than BB. He took teams that were QBed by: Joe Theisman, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams to Super Bowl victiories . Lost another with Theisman....None of those QBs came close to HOF consideration.....nor were they considered elite QBs when they played. (except, maybe Theisman for a bit) Hard to argue with that.... add on the fact that Coach Gibbs is such a quality human being, and you've got yourself one of the GOATs for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 hours ago, MDDawg said: It's not what we think it's what Belichick obviously thinks And Belichick stated that, Yeah, I heard about it...but that's the TV show Production side of things. What they're doing he has no idea and hasn't seen any of that stuff that those people do. I'm assuming that some of those TV production people are now looking for new jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 6 hours ago, The Gipper said: He must have caught that disease after he left Cleveland, seeing that he had 4 out of 5 losing seasons here. Probably prompted him to cheat. It's not hard to look like a defensive genius when you know the play that is going to be run. At least in baseball the hitter still has to hit the ball, which is hard in and of itself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, ballpeen said: cheat. There's an old sports saying, If you cheat and get away with it, then it's a good play. And yet they use to put the teams in charge of proper inflation of the footballs. OL coaches use to (perhaps still do) teach how to hold and get away with it. Baseball, corked bats, emery boards, spitballs, stealing signs..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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