calfoxwc Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/198405.php This so called health care bill is rife with very, very dramatically severe problems. And the Obama admin lies are all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Indicative of the new Leftist takeover of what used to be the Democratic Party. Now, the party of brownshirts visiting in the night, roughing up Christian and conservative and patriotic Americans like happened in Mo. True story, the video is out, I posted the link, and there are plenty of witnesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 http://www.nypost.com/seven/07242009/posto...0941.htm?page=0 DEADLY DOCTORS O ADVISERS WANT TO RATION CARE By BETSY MCCAUGHEY Emanuel: Believes in withholding care from elderly for greater good. Posted: 1:03 am July 24, 2009 THE health bills coming out of Congress would put the de cisions about your care in the hands of presidential appointees. They'd decide what plans cover, how much leeway your doctor will have and what seniors get under Medicare. Yet at least two of President Obama's top health advisers should never be trusted with that power. Start with Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. He has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research. Emanuel bluntly admits that the cuts will not be pain-free. "Vague promises of savings from cutting waste, enhancing prevention and wellness, installing electronic medical records and improving quality are merely 'lipstick' cost control, more for show and public relations than for true change," he wrote last year (Health Affairs Feb. 27, 2008). Savings, he writes, will require changing how doctors think about their patients: Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, "as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others" (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008). Yes, that's what patients want their doctors to do. But Emanuel wants doctors to look beyond the needs of their patients and consider social justice, such as whether the money could be better spent on somebody else. Many doctors are horrified by this notion; they'll tell you that a doctor's job is to achieve social justice one patient at a time. Emanuel, however, believes that "communitarianism" should guide decisions on who gets care. He says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens . . . An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia" (Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec. '96). Translation: Don't give much care to a grandmother with Parkinson's or a child with cerebral palsy. He explicitly defends discrimination against older patients: "Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years" (Lancet, Jan. 31). The bills being rushed through Congress will be paid for largely by a $500 billion-plus cut in Medicare over 10 years. Knowing how unpopular the cuts will be, the president's budget director, Peter Orszag, urged Congress this week to delegate its own authority over Medicare to a new, presidentially-appointed bureaucracy that wouldn't be accountable to the public. Since Medicare was founded in 1965, seniors' lives have been transformed by new medical treatments such as angioplasty, bypass surgery and hip and knee replacements. These innovations allow the elderly to lead active lives. But Emanuel criticizes Americans for being too "enamored with technology" and is determined to reduce access to it. Dr. David Blumenthal, another key Obama adviser, agrees. He recommends slowing medical innovation to control health spending. Blumenthal has long advocated government health-spending controls, though he concedes they're "associated with longer waits" and "reduced availability of new and expensive treatments and devices" (New England Journal of Medicine, March 8, 2001). But he calls it "debatable" whether the timely care Americans get is worth the cost. (Ask a cancer patient, and you'll get a different answer. Delay lowers your chances of survival.) Obama appointed Blumenthal as national coordinator of health-information technology, a job that involves making sure doctors obey electronically deivered guidelines about what care the government deems appropriate and cost effective. In the April 9 New England Journal of Medicine, Blumenthal predicted that many doctors would resist "embedded clinical decision support" -- a euphemism for computers telling doctors what to do. Americans need to know what the president's health advisers have in mind for them. Emanuel sees even basic amenities as luxuries and says Americans expect too much: "Hospital rooms in the United States offer more privacy . . . physicians' offices are typically more conveniently located and have parking nearby and more attractive waiting rooms" (JAMA, June 18, 2008). No one has leveled with the public about these dangerous views. Nor have most people heard about the arm-twisting, Chicago-style tactics being used to force support. In a Nov. 16, 2008, Health Care Watch column, Emanuel explained how business should be done: "Every favor to a constituency should be linked to support for the health-care reform agenda. If the automakers want a bailout, then they and their suppliers have to agree to support and lobby for the administration's health-reform effort." Do we want a "reform" that empowers people like this to decide for us? Betsy McCaughey is founder of the Committee to Reduce Infec tion Deaths and a former New York lieutenant governor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 So, a man with a disabled son has his family threatened, and his wife is terrified. A fine Christian conservative black man gets beaten up and kicked by three members of Obama's SEIU thugs. The left's violence to control has started. ...since Acorn's intimidating voting places guards had the charges against them by Obama and Holder... Obama contradicts himself, thinking the media won't report on that fact. Oops, Fox News did. Dammit Fox News, why do you dare telling the truth about the would be leftist liar Obama ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 <H3 class=storytitle>Obama’s Doublespeak on Single-Payer Health Care Systems </H3> Posted by James Richardson (Profile) Tuesday, August 11th at 5:18PM EDT 17 Comments At a health care town hall today, President Barack Obama told a New Hampshire audience that he has never claimed to be an advocate of a single-payer health care system, alleging that his Republican opponents were employing “scare tactics” to derail substantive health care reform. “I have not said that I am a supporter of a single-payer system,” he said, channeling former presidential contender John ‘I voted for it before I voted against it’ Kerry. But in August of last year, Obama touted single-payer systems as a promising solution to the ailing health care system at a New Mexico town hall. Eliminating private insurance companies and instead opting for a pseudo-Medicare system with the government footing the bill for all health care-related expenses, he said, would be a more effective means to provide greater coverage than our system’s current iteration. “If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system,” said then-Senator Obama. “I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody.” Evidence of Obama’s open embrace of single payer health care systems dates farther back than 2008, much to the chagrin of the White House’s professional wordsmiths, who no doubt spent hours retooling the president’s message for today’s town hall. Unequivocally expressing his support for a government-run health care system, Obama said to a crowd of AFL-CIO members in 2003, “I happen to be a proponent of single-payer, universal health care coverage.” Obama’s evolution on the extent to which the federal government should meddle in the private marketplace of health care coverage is one that speaks to the White House’s justifiable concern they may be losing the debate. Obama and Congressional Democrats are anxious to stem the tide of fleeting public opinion, and both have gone to great lengths to cast their opponents as fear mongers. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer characterized the town hall protests as “un-American,” while the DNC suggested critics of Obama’s ever-changing health care proposal are fringe lunatics bent on disproving Obama’s citizenship status. The insinuation that opposition to Obama’s health care system—which, I’ll add, has become increasingly difficult for the simple fact that I’m not entirely sure which iteration we’re to oppose—is grounded in a citizenship conspiracy theory is no more credible than the notion that Obama would, as Saturday Night Live comically suggested, cut taxes for sexual predators and social deviants. Predators, SNL jested, must be found among low and middle-income families, for whom then-Senator Obama promised to cut taxes. Likewise, the DNC posited that “Birthers,” as they’ve been dubbed, must be found among opponents of Obama’s health care plan because, after all, all Republicans are mentally unstable. “Where we disagree, let’s disagree over things that are real,” President Obama said today. But the distinction between facts and non-facts has become blurred, not for the critics of the legislation, but for the legislation’s highest profile supporters in the previous weeks. In the interest of wresting control of the debate on health care from those who disagree over trivial matters, like the president instructed, I will give an example of a fact and a non-fact. A fact: As early as 2003 and as late as 2008 President Obama supported a single-payer health care system. A non-fact: Republicans are reflexively partisan and chiefly stand in opposition to the President’s initiatives for an unsubstantiated belief in his Kenyan birth. President Obama, if you’re interested in meaningful disagreements in the debate over health care, rein in your allies first. Call off the SEIU thugs and put an end to the hateful “un-American” rhetoric. Then, and only then, come talk about a meaningful dialogue. It also might serve you well to decide if you are in favor of “single-payer, universal health care coverage,” too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted August 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 So I ask everybody on the board - read the entire thread, and give your appraisal of Obama's glaring contradictions (eh, "lies"), and about whether or not the Obama admin presents a threat to the well-being of our country,... but know that there are many other issues with the OBama admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I interrupt these paranoid ramblings for a very important message: WOW You really do make my day better, cal. I truly mean that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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calfoxwc Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 But Obama completely contraDICKted himself. So, he's a liar? Split personality - both corrupt and arrogant, but one supports one thing, and his other personality supports another? Obama SUPPORTS single payer health insurance. Obama DOES NOT support single payer health insurance. and on and on it goes. Just wonderin if anybody on the left can get it right... @@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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