Greythan Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 I've noticed all too often that BE will elevate on throws that don't require jumping. If he'd simply reached up on the dropped TD it would have been a routine catch. However, when he jumped the ball ended up right at shoulder level and the ball "ate him up" so to speak. Not an excuse as even jumping he should have caught it, but he continually gets himself in poor body positions by jumping when he doesn't have to. Can't you just see Jerry Rice running smoothly along the back line and reaching up effortlessly to catch that pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aloysius Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 I think he had to jump. To me, the ball looked to be at his face mask, not shoulder level. And because the defensive back leapt for the ball, I can see why his first instinct was to jump for it as well. Still should have caught it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 We need a Wide Receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Edwards said Quinn put the ball where it was supposed to be. "I'm used to jumping, and I didn't need to leave my feet," he said. At least he manned up in an unexcusable excuse... As did BQ... He said the interception throw behind Edwards was "a poor decision on my part. You have to come away with at least a field goal there. I apologized to my teammates. While DA eludes to yet another excuse for his poor decision: He said on the interception, he got hit in the knee as he threw and "the ball just kind of fluttered in the air." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greythan Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 From Grossi's article: But on second down from the 6, Quinn fired for Edwards at the back of the end zone. Edwards leaped, which he always does, and dropped the ball. On the next play, Quinn threw behind Edwards and was intercepted by safety Anthony Smith. Edwards said Quinn put the ball where it was supposed to be. "I'm used to jumping, and I didn't need to leave my feet," he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aloysius Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Fair enough. When I went back & checked on the DVR, the ball did appear to be at his face mask. But he probably should have just reached up instead of jumping for it. And he did the right thing in taking full responsibility for the drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greythan Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 What caught my attention right away is where the ball was on his body when he dropped it: torso. He does that all the time and drops a lot of balls in that position. Should never be in the air to receive a pass that is going to his your chest/stomach. Indicates a poorly timed jump or a bad decision altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 I think he had to jump. To me, the ball looked to be at his face mask, not shoulder level. And because the defensive back leapt for the ball, I can see why his first instinct was to jump for it as well. Still should have caught it, though. He's starting to make me think someone has worse stonehands than Michael Jackson. What HAPPENED to this kid? Another thing I've noticed with our receivers the last 2 years is they're often watching DBs close in on some catchable passes. Meaning? They aren't doing the SAME thing. It's not always just the jump balls folks - your elite DBs in this country are on NFL teams because they possess this closing skill. I cannot tell you how many times I've seen receivers slowing up as they've witnessed DBs attempting to close on the ball. This is an innate reflex that needs to be worked out in practice IMO. I think this is correctable if we have the right coaches. I need a second look at the INT in the end zone because I prolly had a few too many cold depressants in me. I thought I saw a decent pass leading the receiver who allowed the DB to close on the football. The difference? I don't know if the receiver was unaware of the DB or the DB was just more aggressive. - Tom F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 I think he had to jump. To me, the ball looked to be at his face mask, not shoulder level. And because the defensive back leapt for the ball, I can see why his first instinct was to jump for it as well. Still should have caught it, though. WRONG. He did not have to jump and make "The Play". I have seen that play 100 times with Moss, TO or Steve Smith. They would of kept their f'cking feet on the ground and worried about the ball and not where I am going to land. What a f'cking pussy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geech Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 What HAPPENED to this kid? - Tom F. Par for the course. We should have asked what happened to him when he caught 16 TDs a few years ago. That was the anomaly. I need a second look at the INT in the end zone... - Tom F. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...uinn-highlights 1:48 of the video -Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosar_win Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...uinn-highlights 1:48 of the video Looking at it again, I think BQ needed to put the ball more in front of BE. Just a little too far behind and that cost the INT. Nice for BQ to man up to his mistake. Too bad DA didn't do the same on his floater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Looking at it again, I think BQ needed to put the ball more in front of BE. Just a little too far behind and that cost the INT. Nice for BQ to man up to his mistake. Too bad DA didn't do the same on his floater. WHAT? It's Quinn's fault. Dude come on. BE is in the NFL. The great James Lofton always said "You touch it with one hand in the NFL, you catch it". BE had TWO hands on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geech Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 WHAT? It's Quinn's fault. Dude come on. BE is in the NFL. The great James Lofton always said "You touch it with one hand in the NFL, you catch it". BE had TWO hands on it. We're talking about the INT, not the drop. You're right about the drop. He should have caught that one, but the INT was thrown a bit behind BE. -Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 We're talking about the INT, not the drop. You're right about the drop. He should have caught that one, but the INT was thrown a bit behind BE. -Al Oh, sorry man. Yea he did force the pick and threw it behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geech Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Says "video no longer availabile" Hmmm, still works for me. Try going to NFL.com. There is a list of six videos with thumbnails right there on the homepage. Last thumbnail in the list is titled "Brady Quinn Highlights." -Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Actually watching from the camera behind Quinn, I don't think that he should have ever attempted that second throw. That's all on Quinn. Still looks to me like with a good throw (meaning planting his feet and getting behind the throw, rather than jump/hop throw), he could thread that in there to the receivers hands. It was man coverage after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geech Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Still looks to me like with a good throw (meaning planting his feet and getting behind the throw, rather than jump/hop throw), he could thread that in there to the receivers hands. It was man coverage after all. I agree. He had that nice pass to Furrey on the slant and could have made the TD if it had been an accurate throw. -Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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