Kosar_For_President Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Let's don't jump the gun. I saw him go down on quite a few arm tackles last night and looked just average against their #1's, which isn't a steller group. His big run was against their #3's. What do you think J Lew was doing? He looks old. No matter how hard he chops his legs, it's not enough anymore. He looks like a Retard trying to scrum in rugby. They need to split carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITHIKA Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Well if you're going to pass the torch as in Lewis case what better guy than one from your hometown that broke all of you're rushing records in highschool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 No matter how hard he chops his legs, it's not enough anymore. When there are no holes to run through, every RB looks like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 When there are no holes to run through, every RB looks like that. He's getting armed tackled by CB's. You think this is the same J Lew. Dude I am a big fan, but he just doesn't look the same. Now and at the end of last year. I am not talking holes, I understand that, he's not sheeding tacklers. 5 in this video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 He's getting armed tackled by CB's. You think this is the same J Lew. Dude I am a big fan, but he just doesn't look the same. Now and at the end of last year. I am not talking holes, I understand that, he's not sheeding tacklers. 5 in this video. I have yet to see him get arm tackled by a CB. You have a clip of that, as I have missed that (last year and this preseason). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I have yet to see him get arm tackled by a CB. You have a clip of that, as I have missed that (last year and this preseason). Nope. Nothing on You Tube. 07 = 4.4 YPC 08 = 3.6 YPC 09 Preseason = 2.8 YPC See a trend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Nope. Nothing on You Tube. 07 = 4.4 YPC 08 = 3.6 YPC 09 Preseason = 2.8 YPC See a trend? I do. Of course in watching the team, I have seen a trend where the run blocking has been worse than it was in 07'. Certainly JL is on the down side and numbers are going to drop. But it's hard to say where his drop off is to, when there have been little to no running lanes since 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 And I think Lewis does hit the holes that are there Most any UDFA can do that. It's not the bounce outside that Davis has over him now. It's that one cut juke within the hole that Lewis has lost. but that doesn't mean Lewis is done. If that is indeed the case, what are the advantages to starting Lewis over a guy like James Davis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffer X Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Lewis is done. He should not be the primary back for this football team. He can contribute, but no way is he a bell cow anymore. At least he shouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Apart from the 81 yard TchDwn I do not see anything so impressive in James Davis that warrants him to get a start over Jamal Lewis. And if the argument is giong to be he is an unknown then i must say that we already have one unknown in Jerrome Harrison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 If I were the coach, you'd see the distribution of carries go something like 35% to Lewis, 30% Davis, 25% to Harrison and 10% to the fullbacks ect. I will eat my proverbial hat if that's the actual distribution. It's a distribution I'd like, too. But I'm skeptical. Perhaps I need to just get myself out of the "Crennel Mode" I've been stuck in for the last few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 You just have to hope Mangini isn't quite as entrenched in it as Crennel was. It's not possible................is it...............? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I know there were plenty of times in 08 where there was nothing in the middle but the outside was wide open, so instead of bouncing it to the outside he stubbornly chopped his feet behind the guard until a DT or LB came around and tackled him. A smaller more agile RB with more "spunk" say ohh I don't know a Jerome Harrison would of taken it outside and burned the D. You have to remember defenses are pinching when JL takes it up the middle, so in those cases the middle is going to be clogged and that will be the case no matter who the OL are. A RB has to have his eyes and head up and hitting the holes that ARE there.. My exact point. He doesn't have the strength to do what he used to and is hurting the offense. He at least needs to bounce it out once and a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Apart from the 81 yard TchDwn I do not see anything so impressive in James Davis that warrants him to get a start over Jamal Lewis. And if the argument is giong to be he is an unknown then i must say that we already have one unknown in Jerrome Harrison. I don't think it's James Davis being impressive, its J Lew being so unimpressive. I just think he needs more spells then he is used to getting. Harrison and Davis would be a good change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 JLew was unimpressive as was JDavis in the first half against the Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefjerky Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I think they need to split up time between the backs to get the best durability out of Jamal, so just turn Jamal into a goal line TD vulture type back, and put him in situations like 3rd and short, but for everything else split the time between Harrison and Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I think they need to split up time between the backs to get the best durability out of Jamal, so just turn Jamal into a goal line TD vulture type back, and put him in situations like 3rd and short, but for everything else split the time between Harrison and Davis. Like Thunder and Lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sez.EJ Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Nope. Nothing on You Tube. 07 = 4.4 YPC 08 = 3.6 YPC 09 Preseason = 2.8 YPC See a trend? So tell me about how a bad ankle, and an offensive line that was a disaster in 08,.... effect those numbers. As for 09.. we are talking about 14 preseason touches, vs an entire years worth of carries in the prior season(s) comparisons. This preaseason the OL is in flux with whole bunch of new players, New center, new right guard, new right tackle.. They have not played together as a unit, guys are getting shuffled in and out. There is no game plan. The whole team played better in 07... we had a passing game in 07.. We had how many different qb's in 08? All of those things effect a RB's numbers. . ... Those numbers are bogus and don't mean squat. that is not a trend. Same reason James Davis went from a 2nd/3rd round prospect 2 years ago to where he got drafted this year..His team and coach took a crap on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseys911 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 James Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I am not a big fan of splitting reps with backs. Especially guys like Davis. Barry Sanders had a whole bunch of 2 yard gains in a game and a few 40 yarders. You start splitting reps and you might have the guy on the bench when the right play is called and the line makes the blocks as drawn. Backs get in to a rhythm too...they get a feel for when players over pursue...they have to feel the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 A player with a skill set simular to Brandon Jacobs or Marion Barber works best with the RBBC approach. We will have to make due this year with whats on the roster. How bad is Harrisons injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegasdogg Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Backs get in to a rhythm too...they get a feel for when players over pursue...they have to feel the game. Back can also have a role. Inside the 20's, between the 20's, catching passes, etc... Ideally you like a back who plays all 3 downs and is spelled here and there. That is not a luxury we have with Lewis because he is not a gamebreaker, he is a wear you down kinda back. Problem is the Ratbirds and Stoolers don't wear down, so we need plays made at that position. I like Lewis' attitude and drive - a lot! But I am not sure Harrison and Davis are beating the aforementioned teams anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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