Flugel Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 This really isn't rocket science. If you can think back to the FIRST SB Championship run NE had - perennial Pro Bowl QB Drew Bledsoe had suddenly lost his art of winning games. There was turbulence in the win-loss column as BB's defensive mind wasn't quite making that place Camelot just yet. As fate would have it Bledsoe lacerated a kidney during one of those losses so NE needed an alternative and fast. That was a 2nd year QB, who only wore his game uniform 5 times as a rookie. He was also the 2nd most popular QB on the Michigan Campus where the student body was SUPPOSED to be smart. Anyway, Brady starts getting reps. The team starts winning. And did I mention this was during the REGULAR season when that went down? Next thing I know - that franchise makes 4 Superbowls and wins 3 of them. Isn't it funny what a GREAT Head Coach Bill Belichick is when he's got the perfect QB? I didn't see the MAGIC when he had Bledsoe or Philcox starting for him. Not to get TOO sidetracked but Brady's ability to WIN consistently sealed alot fates and fortunes up there in NE. Relating this to us. Whoever WINS the job at training camp ONLY keeps that job by winning games on Sunday. It's really THAT simple and always has been. Nobody MINDED DA when he won us 10 games. When he started to LOSE fans was when he started to clearly regress as DCs around the conference got comfortable and acquainted with his weaknesses. That made me understand why and how he could start us out at 3-6 the next year. With me, Quinn represents the hope Dumb Ass was no longer providing. Our offense had to shrink in 2008 and that was a red flag that gives me Queer-Eye-for-the Upgrade. If we don't have an upgrade on board - then SHAME on the last Brass for putting us in that position. I do have confidence in this brass and I think they'll see things the previous brass was incapable of. - Tom F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgpound3 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I agree. A consistent QB is what it takes to be a QB. A QB that doesn't always make the big plays, but puts your team in the position to win. Tom Brady is an excellent quarterback. He is accurate, precise and a excellent defense reader. This is everything I want Quinn or hope to be anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl34 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I think you make a good point...a few notes of my own. *Mangini's success in New York during the first season (and it would have continued had they not forced Favre on him) was done with Chad Pennington. He's a smart QB who motivates his teammates. He has one of the weakest arms I have ever seen but it is accurate. When Favre joined, he brought a rocket arm and stupid decision making. He can win with Quinn and I believe that's what he told Lerner. *He wanted this to be as fair as possible because in NY, there were a lot of people who felt like the QB decision was biased for Pennington and against Clemens. This way, no camp can say they didn't get a fair shake. He wanted one guy to win the job rather than handing it to someone. * Mangini has a knack for keeping his team in games as long as his defense and his QB stay disciplined. All he asks for is no stupid mistakes. * He will stick with his chosen starter EVEN if he flounders. When Pennington was struggling in 2007, it took until late in the season before he switched to Clemens and it was weeks after the fickle media started jumping off of the Pennington ship. *If DA doesn't win the job out of camp and doesn't come in impressively in relief of Quinn during the season, I don't think he'll ever play for the Browns again. That said, I think a QB next year in the draft is not out of the question. Just my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Nobody MINDED DA when he won us 10 games. I minded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 88fingerslewy Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Injuries are already starting for QB's in the rest of the league. Cassel went down last night with a knee thing. Teams are going to start kicking tires for another QB soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aloysius Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 * He will stick with his chosen starter EVEN if he flounders. When Pennington was struggling in 2007, it took until late in the season before he switched to Clemens and it was weeks after the fickle media started jumping off of the Pennington ship. That's part of why I don't think DA needs to be shipped out, as others here have been saying. Quinn being the overwhelming fan favorite will help quiet the calls for Anderson. And Mangini's obstinacy firm resolve will make a hasty switch a lot less likely. That said, speculation about a possible SF trade appears to be mounting. BQ winning job tonight, I think. Why won't team like 49ers make play for Derek Anderson - fits perfect. Run, play-action. I think DA would easily be SF best QB. Lack of run game killed him last year. Gore would help him. Browns need to announce BQ as the starter, give him all the practice reps and see what he can do. Yesterday, Niners starting QB Shaun Hill went 9/17 for 79 yards (4.6 YPA), scoring only three points on five drives. But promising rookie Nate Davis had a good game, putting seventeen points on the board on four second half drives. I think you'll start hearing more talk about Davis being a possible long-term option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irisheyez Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I minded I did too. We should have been in the playoff that year against that schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I didn't mind in the first half of the season when he was playing well, but I definitely started to mind when he was shitting all over himself down the stretch of that season. We shouldn't have lost at Arizona or at Cincinatti. That season showed exactly the kind of QB Anderson was in college and still is today...capable of just about anything. 5 TD's or 5 INT's..you just don't know which one is going to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I minded So we learned your buddy Flugel isn't very good at counting. I think the red flag trend that developed over the LAST 2 months of 2007 should have reminded the brass as to why Quinn was necessary on draft day. It didn't, and we flushed away the next season to the wishful thinking DA was the next Brian Sipe or Kurt Warner story. How did we get from Cinderella story to Old Yeller? What's even more comical is I've had people in my face telling me I'm supposed want to see re-runs of the Old Yeller ending. Bullshit - I'd rather watch a freakin soccer game and I HATE soccer. Many of us are traditional so we KNOW what a real QB looks like by the time he's had 27 starts. If the last 9 are 3-6 football - we don't need a 28th oncore. 4 of those games we scored 6 points, 10 points, 10 points and 6 points. Not impressed. - Tom F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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