mjp28 Posted November 26, 2021 Report Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 hours ago, nickers said: I would be okay with the $25-$30 mill range for Mayfield with incentives and escalators that are performance driven.. So to speak.. I think Baker and bride can get by on that...... especially with his other part time jobs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Orion said: I just call 'em as I see 'em. And there have been multiple games this season where the QB position had hurt us. Now, we don't say that nearly as much with Baker as we have with any of the other QB's this century...but sometimes his accuracy is alarming. Not as bad as Derick Anderson....but.... Well.. It's kind of hard to be consistently accurate when you have basically one arm tied to your side... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecube Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 11/22/2021 at 7:24 PM, gumby73 said: 😎 🤣 Yeah ! I had to ... "" "' Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds Sk% NY/A ANY/A 4QC GWD AV 2005 22 GNB 12 3 0 9 16 56.3 65 0 0.0 1 6.3 3 16 4.1 1.3 7.2 21.7 39.8 3 28 15.8 1.95 -0.42 0 2006 23 GNB 12 2 0 6 15 40.0 46 0 0.0 0 0.0 2 16 3.1 3.1 7.7 23.0 48.2 7.9 3 18 16.7 1.56 1.56 0 2007 24 GNB 12 2 0 20 28 71.4 218 1 3.6 0 0.0 9 43 7.8 8.5 10.9 109.0 106.0 78.8 3 24 9.7 6.26 6.90 1 2008 25 GNB QB 12 16 16 6-10-0 341 536 63.6 4038 28 5.2 13 2.4 184 71 7.5 7.5 11.8 252.4 93.8 62.9 34 231 6.0 6.68 6.64 1 2 15 Mayfield's 4th season.. 10 games in Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds Sk% NY/A ANY/A 4QC GWD AV 2018 23 CLE QB 6 14 13 6-7-0 310 486 63.8 3725 27 5.6 14 2.9 171 71 7.7 7.5 12.0 266.1 93.7 51.2 25 173 4.9 6.95 6.77 3 4 10 2019 24 CLE QB 6 16 16 6-10-0 317 534 59.4 3827 22 4.1 21 3.9 179 89 7.2 6.2 12.1 239.2 78.8 54.4 40 285 7.0 6.17 5.29 1 1 11 2020 25 CLE QB 6 16 16 11-5-0 305 486 62.8 3563 26 5.3 8 1.6 188 75 7.3 7.7 11.7 222.7 95.9 72.2 26 162 5.1 6.64 6.96 2 2 14 2021 26 CLE qb 6 10 10 5-5-0 176 275 64.0 2166 10 3.6 6 2.2 100 71 7.9 7.6 12.3 216.6 91.3 37.2 27 166 8.9 6.62 6.39 One striking omission is the state of the game that Baker is playing compared to Roger's over the same span of years (1st 4): Good QBs put up much better #'s than Baker here and now, including Rogers. Baker is hovering around 22nd - 26th in all major passing stats in the here and now. That is who he is. Comparing his stats to Roger's 1st four years is poppycock. Baker is ringing in at about 25th in today's conditions You want him paid like a top 5 QB? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 hours ago, nickers said: Well.. It's kind of hard to be consistently accurate when you have basically one arm tied to your side... If that's the case, then we DO have a healthy QB that knows the system well, that we pay $6 mil to be the backup. So, that's either NOT the case, or it IS the case but Keenum isn't as good as an injured Baker...in which case Case's agent got him a great deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 27 minutes ago, Orion said: If that's the case, then we DO have a healthy QB that knows the system well, that we pay $6 mil to be the backup. So, that's either NOT the case, or it IS the case but Keenum isn't as good as an injured Baker...in which case Case's agent got him a great deal. Keenum is... No thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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