MDDawg Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 The game should be rescheduled, the Browns followed the NFL protocol and it failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kegeratorz Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 Looks like it's moved to Monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 So they expect us to get some guys back by Monday? And what about WFT and the Rams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kegeratorz Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, SdBacker80 said: So they expect us to get some guys back by Monday? And what about WFT and the Rams? Hoping to get at least a few back, but agree. WFT and Rams are also being moved from what I'm hearing. No idea when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kegeratorz Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 Saw Browns/Raiders playing at 5 PM Monday. Double header MNF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Kegeratorz said: Saw Browns/Raiders playing at 5 PM Monday. Double header MNF. Wow. Never thought it would happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 Should cancel the week altogether (lockdown teams curb the spread) add the week 15 games on the end and eliminate the extra week between the AFC championship and the SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 The raiders are not happy - they lose their competitive advantage...... because the Browns might be able to field an entire team by Monday? I hope the Browns walk all over them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kegeratorz Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: The raiders are not happy - they lose their competitive advantage...... This is the same team that tried gaining a competitive advantage by meeting/dancing on the previous opponent teams logo. Maybe the vid will be that advantage they need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: The raiders are not happy - they lose their competitive advantage...... Oakland Vegas competitive edge ? Blah, Blah,Blah...✂️ 💈 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorka Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 On 12/17/2021 at 12:47 PM, DieHardBrownsFan said: Looks more like a goofiest uniform contest. The tall kid gets my vote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 modified Covid testing changes.. 🎅 " I'm not riding with quiz's " https://www.nfl.com/news/new-covid-19-protocol-to-feature-targeted-testing-of-fully-vaccinated-players-st in simple plain English... https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/new-nfl-covid-protocols-explained-vaccinated-players/1rwnydkj3uis21qjug7kl23unk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkside5 Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 I don't know how many have antibodies, been vaxed or whatever, but our secondary has been social distancing all year. That should count for something.😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 At this point, I'm just desperately hoping we're able to get these dudes back: -Wills/Hudson (Hudson being very unlikely) -Any member of the secondary group At least the other groups that are going to be short handed (including QB) are dudes who have been in the system for a while. The two groups above though are dreadfully thin, so even getting 1-2 dudes back would be huge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Stop testing people that aren’t showing symptoms and this whole thing would go away Worlds gone mad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, LondonBrown said: Stop testing (hoorta edit: vaccinated) people that aren’t showing symptoms and this whole thing would go away Worlds gone mad Just my 0.02 from my medical background. I agree with the bold LB... However, covid is never going to just "go away" we're going to have to learn how to live with it. The Spanish Flu has never really just "gone away" either, it's mutated into a milder form that doesn't kill 10s of millions of people every year. Will covid will do the same? TBD. My sixty second research told me Spanish Flu killed an estimated 50 million people 100 years ago. To date, covid has killed around 5 million people, (and the world's population is a lot larger than it was 100 years ago). Regarding the level of testing the NFL was doing, I'll give you the old saw "If you go looking for trouble, you're probably going to find it". I haven't heard of any NFL players having to be hospitalized because of covid. The good news I'm hearing- and it's yet to be conclusively documented- only 26 cases in a preliminary study... Those who have had breakthrough covid infections have had their anti covid antibody levels jacked up to the Moon. They're calling it hyper immunized against further infection. We can only hope that's the case. For sure, covid indifference is rampant. Yeah- it's a problem, but the general population in the US is pretty much telling the medical Docs like Fauci... Yeah we know, and we just don't care anymore, we're going to live our lives. Full speed ahead and damn the torpedos. Er, virus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, hoorta said: I haven't heard of any NFL players having to be hospitalized because of covid. No, but ask Myles or Llamar Jackson how mild their cases were. Myles was affected for the rest of the season. I think the issue gets tricky when you are allowing players to not be vaccinated, and then allowing players that have tested positive to be around them. - The Gipper would've had an opinion on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/20/2021 at 3:12 PM, Orion said: No, but ask Myles or Llamar Jackson how mild their cases were. Myles was affected for the rest of the season. I think the issue gets tricky when you are allowing players to not be vaccinated, and then allowing players that have tested positive to be around them. - The Gipper would've had an opinion on this. That's true, but Myles came down with covid before the vaccines were generally available. And Lamar was one of the dumb-dums who still refuses to get vaccinated. These breakthrough cases seem to be on the order of having a bad cold, or no symptoms at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, hoorta said: These breakthrough cases seem to be on the order of having a bad cold, or no symptoms at all... But are they able to transmit covid, as a positive tester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 The COVID-19 carousel kept spinning for the Browns on Wednesday. Cornerback Greg Newsome II was placed on the COVID reserve list. He missed the last two games with a concussion. Tight end Austin Hooper, linebacker Jacob Phillips and practice squad receiver/returner JoJo Natson were activated from the list. Coach Kevin Stefanski also cleared protocols and returned to team headquarters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, Orion said: But are they able to transmit covid, as a positive tester? AFAIK, Orion yes- you can be asymptomatic and still transmit the disease. But as we're seeing with the Browns, it's only a serious problem if you would happen to transmit it to an unvaccinated person. Shades of Typhoid Mary... For those who never heard of her... https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/typhoid-mary-was-a-real-asymptomatic-carrier-who-caused-multiple-outbreaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, hoorta said: AFAIK, Orion yes- you can be asymptomatic and still transmit the disease. But as we're seeing with the Browns, it's only a serious problem if you would happen to transmit it to an unvaccinated person. Shades of Typhoid Mary... For those who never heard of her... https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/typhoid-mary-was-a-real-asymptomatic-carrier-who-caused-multiple-outbreaks Which leads me back to my original statement: I think the issue gets tricky when you are allowing players to not be vaccinated, and then allowing players that have tested positive to be around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Orion said: Which leads me back to my original statement: I think the issue gets tricky when you are allowing players to not be vaccinated, and then allowing players that have tested positive to be around them. Then my point is- if you're going to be a dumb-dum and not get vaccinated- that's your problem. Don't be blaming the vaccinated asymptomatic teammates around you if you get sick and croak. (BTW, the report is the Browns only have one player who is still unvaccinated) MHO? The antivaxxers are improving the gene pool every time one of them kicks off. That only goes for the ones deliberately not getting vaccinated, and would rather believe the quacks espousing microchips, magnetism, and certain death. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 hours ago, hoorta said: Don't be blaming the vaccinated asymptomatic teammates around you if you get sick and croak. I'm just not sure how that plays out in court. perhaps there's already league verbiage in place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FALCON7 Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 JC Tretter now positive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATOM Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, FALCON7 said: JC Tretter now positive! jesus im sick of this shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 dammit.I wonder how many to the covid list players were wearing their masks when they went places.....and used hand sanitizer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: dammit.I wonder how many to the covid list players were wearing their masks when they went places.....and used hand sanitizer.... Probably as many people you see going to grocery stores wearing masks... Virtually none of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: dammit.I wonder how many to the covid list players were wearing their masks when they went places.....and used hand sanitizer.... That's not the problem Cal... The problem is the damn omicron variant is now the dominant variant in Ohio- 70% of cases and going up fast. Super transmissible person to person too. Unfortunately, the vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) are only slightly effective at preventing infection...Like 30%, if that. Tretter thought he was coming down with a cold.. and BTW, he's been triple vaccinated. Like I told Steve over on the Poli Board... We're never going to get rid of this bug, (even if we had a 100% vaccination rate) 90% of the Expert Epidemiologists are in agreement about that... Westside had a point, it's going to be the same reason we've never been able to come up with a vaccine against the common cold- too many different strains of it floating around. I hope by next fall the hysteria surrounding covid will subside. It's not just killing the NFL- the NBA and NHL have been cancelling games too. BTW- per Yahoo! sports... The initial league stance was they were just going to cancel those three games that eventually got moved. However the NFLPA (that Tretter is president of)- said no way Jose, we don't want to miss out on our game checks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 Next year we can’t blow early season games. Just count on half of our team being out with COVID and wrecking a couple games. Besides the KC Opener I can’t think of one game over the last two years where we benefited (Net Positive) on the COVID front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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