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Of the UFAs, I'd like to keep Clowney, and perhaps Walker, Nojoku and M.J. Stewart. The rest can try their luck.

Of the Restricted FAs, I see only McDowell and D'ernest as important.

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I'd offer McDowell 1 or 2 year deal nothing crazy.

Stewart, Hance, and Bell are guys I'd bring back for cheap competition. 

I would offer Hubbard a deal but I'm betting he's looking to start somewhere and get a bigger contract.

Clowney played well this year so he's probably looking to get paid. I dont trust him to stay healthy so I'll pass.

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2 hours ago, Louisville Slugger said:

I'd offer McDowell 1 or 2 year deal nothing crazy.

Stewart, Hance, and Bell are guys I'd bring back for cheap competition. 

I would offer Hubbard a deal but I'm betting he's looking to start somewhere and get a bigger contract.

Clowney played well this year so he's probably looking to get paid. I dont trust him to stay healthy so I'll pass.

Clowney has said he wants to remain here...

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3 hours ago, Louisville Slugger said:

Clowney played well this year so he's probably looking to get paid. I dont trust him to stay healthy so I'll pass.

Without Clowney we'll need to find a new DE to compliment Myles....because the cupboard will be bare.  Clowney's agent won't say it, but we all know it, having Myles on the other side certainly made Clowney's job easier.

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3 hours ago, Louisville Slugger said:

I hear ya guys. I'd like to have him back but there's no way I'd give him a long term deal. He's just too injury prone and I feel like we should be able to get a cheaper and more consistent alternative. 

just workout a series of "1 year deals"

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PFF top 100 FA's.. Clowney just as our 1st round pick is lucky #13.. includes projected deals. that most take a 1 year deal.. (but, gm's will have extra cap 🙄)

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-free-agent-rankings-free-agency

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Clowney is far better than anyone available in FA or at pick 13.  I'm really not sure what player or players anyone seriously thinks would be a viable replacement for him.

Jadeveon Clowney - Most Definitely
David Njoku - Most Definitely
M.J. Stewart - Most Definitely, PFF rating 80.8.  I'd definitely rather have him and a mid-round draftpick [Yusuf Corker or RJ Roderick in the 5th?] than Harrison.
Nick Mullens - Definitely
Porter Gustin - Definitely [depending on other FA action]
Michael Dunn  - Definitely
Blake Hance - Definitely if under 1m.  Decent not great.
D'ernest Johnson - Negotiate, see what he wants

Ignore:
Takkarist McKinley
Malik Jackson
Chris Hubbard
Anthony Walker Jr.
Rashard Higgins
Malcolm Smith
Dustin Colquitt
Elijah Lee
Ifeadi Odenigbo
Ryan Switzer
Dexter Williams
Montrel Meander
Stephen Carlson
Ronnie Harrison
Ja'Marcus Bradley
Chase McLaughlin
Malik McDowell

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Re: Mcdowell - You can tell, especially by midseason, that his long term conditioning (that 16 game grind body) wasn't where it needed to be.  The guy has been out of football for a while and the obvious effects presented themselves as things would drag on.

A full offseason may do him a world of good and he was incredibly disruptive when fresh.  I think to simply say "ignore" is unwise.

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On 1/11/2022 at 8:55 PM, Zombo said:

Of the UFAs, I'd like to keep Clowney, and perhaps Walker, Nojoku and M.J. Stewart. The rest can try their luck.

Of the Restricted FAs, I see only McDowell and D'ernest as important.

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Walker is too slow... I think we can do better there...

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4 hours ago, hx214 said:

They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

Clowney did well this season... Id give him a series of 1 year deals...

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MaYbe I should not have loaded this yesterday morning? 😮

DT upgrades....  Bengals BJ Hill... is another young consideration (Ogun also had a good season..sad he'll miss this week)

INTERIOR DEFENDERS

*D.J. Jones, San Francisco 49ers

As if Jones’ regular season performance wasn’t strong enough heading into a crucial offseason, his 2022 playoff debut against the Dallas Cowboys put an exclamation point on his breakout campaign, as he recorded a huge 13-yard sack on quarterback Dak Prescott.

Jones earned a career-high 73.2 grade for the 2021 season that illustrated why the 49ers made sure to sign him during the first week of free agency last offseason, and he’s played his way into a solid multi-year payday as a result. Jones accrued 40 defensive stops in 2021 after amassing 43 total in his first four seasons. His 14 tackles for loss or no gain in 2021 were second to only Aaron Donald among all interior defenders despite playing roughly half as many snaps as the Los Angeles Rams‘ phenom. 

Maliek Collins, Houston Texans

Collins signed consecutive one-year deals for 2020 and 2021 and will now look to ink a multi-year deal while he's still young, as he will be 27 years old during Week 1 of the 2022 season. Collins earned a career-high 66.5 grade and continued to demonstrate his durability, as he played over 500 snaps for the sixth straight season. 

Collins always demonstrated upside as an interior pass-rusher, but his 61.8 run defense grade in 2021 was also a career-high despite playing on a defense tht lacked talent throughout the front seven. Collins doesn’t quit on any snap, and his tenacity in a losing situation was admirable. He can be a valuable asset for any team, even if he's not a true difference-maker. 

Teams that should be interested: Baltimore Ravens, Buffalo Bills, Cleveland Browns, New York Jets

DT production & pay scale  https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/defensive-tackle/all/  (while your in? OT may also have upgrades to C.Hubbard?)

edit--- top IDL fa's--- https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2022-nfl-free-agency-rankings-interior-defensive-linemen

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   NFL franchise tag window: Teams can start placing the franchise tag on players February 21 with a deadline of March 8 to tender said players. The NFL free-agent negotiating window opens on March 14 with a March 16 date for teams to be able to sign outside free agents.

 

Franchise and transition tenders are calculated by adding the respective tag numbers, divided by the sum of the salary caps, from the previous five seasons, and finally multipled by the current season's salary cap. Franchise tag figures are based upon the top five salaries at each respective position, while transition tag figures are based on the top ten.

RFA tenders are calculated by increasing the previous year's respective tender by the same rate as the increase of the salary cap.

2022 Projected Franchise and Transition Tenders

Position Franchise Tag Transition Tag
QB $28,598,000 $25,651,000
DE $20,186,000 $16,623,000
WR $19,127,000 $16,740,000
LB $17,417,000 $14,882,000
CB $17,295,000 $14,904,000
DT $16,888,000 $13,596,000
OL $16,698,000 $14,997,000
S $13,544,000 $11,265,000
RB $12,536,000 $10,148,000
TE $10,834,000 $9,332,000
ST $5,469,000 $4,980,000

2022 Projected RFA Tenders

Type Amount
First Round $5,562,000
Second Round $3,986,000
Right of First Refusal $2,433,000

Restricted we have 5... De'Ernest Johnson/Chase McLaughlin/Stephen Carlson/Montrel Meander/Ifeadi Odenigbo/

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/cleveland-browns/   Denzel Ward needs a Extension & J. Clowney needs taken off the market...

Clowney/Njoku? nah... https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/2022-Browns-Franchise-Tag-Primer-183250280/

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On 1/17/2022 at 3:22 PM, hx214 said:

They need to dump Hooper and keep Njoku if they can.

Clowney just strikes me as one of those guys that if you pay up for a multi year deal he sits back and takes it easy. 

I suspect we're stuck with  Hooper 2022. $11 million dead cap hit. 

Why has his (and others) OBJ, Landry's production gone south? Hmmm Baker? 

Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  :)

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4 hours ago, hoorta said:

 

Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  :)

Well I just got my season ticket invoice....Browns raised my seats $200 to $1804 (from $1604). Of course, the $4 is for "processing" the order. Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases 😂

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1 hour ago, Bob806 said:

Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases 😂

If the plan is to re-boot the WR room?  Losing Landry now, would totally suck 😝

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4 hours ago, Bob806 said:

Well I just got my season ticket invoice....Browns raised my seats $200 to $1804 (from $1604). Of course, the $4 is for "processing" the order. Maybe they're paying Landry with the increases 😂

Yup, we also got our invoice today...  10% price increase.... Keeping up with inflation. :D The pay up or else keeps getting earlier and earlier.   The installment plans keep getting worse by the year too...  Used to be 5 pay, now it's apparently down to 2 payments. Or... Nah, I'm not making payments for the 2023 season starting in September of 2022. 

Looking at the blurb from WKYC, they're not dinging folks up in the nosebleeds nearly as bad as us denizens in the 100 level.  They didn't publicly announce it, but I'm willing to bet the premium in between the 30s, 100 level seats are approaching $200 a ticket, if they're not already there. Not so long ago, that was Club Seat prices.  For sure, those prices will keep the riffraff out of the preferred seating. 

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10 hours ago, hoorta said:

Yup, we also got our invoice today...  10% price increase.... Keeping up with inflation. :D The pay up or else keeps getting earlier and earlier.   The installment plans keep getting worse by the year too...  Used to be 5 pay, now it's apparently down to 2 payments. Or... Nah, I'm not making payments for the 2023 season starting in September of 2022. 

Looking at the blurb from WKYC, they're not dinging folks up in the nosebleeds nearly as bad as us denizens in the 100 level.  They didn't publicly announce it, but I'm willing to bet the premium in between the 30s, 100 level seats are approaching $200 a ticket, if they're not already there. Not so long ago, that was Club Seat prices.  For sure, those prices will keep the riffraff out of the preferred seating. 

Yes, I'm in the 1st row of 536, so I didn't get hit as hard as the lower bowl. My thing is, the prices increased $300 on mine for 2021, so that's $500 increase in just two seasons (I have a pair of seats).

To be fair (& it's hard given the economy, pandemic stuff we all went through) the Browns didn't jack up prices for quite a few seasons, probably because of a 38-122 record from 2008-2017. But please don't do it again anytime soon. 

One of my friends who moved here from Austin, Tx may have had a point. He told me our fan base is still snakebit from the 1995 move, and we are basically hostages to the team & NFL now. He also said Haslam could increase tickets $1000/season & we'd still pay it. Maybe he's right...just a different perspective on things.

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A few numbers from  stastica  to try to put things in perspective. Right through the worst period of BROWNS football.......ever !  Loyal fans.

 https://www.statista.com/statistics/197966/nfl-average-ticket-price-for-cleveland-browns-games-since-2006

 I'm going to look at front office goodies later.

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13 hours ago, Bob806 said:

Yes, I'm in the 1st row of 536, so I didn't get hit as hard as the lower bowl. My thing is, the prices increased $300 on mine for 2021, so that's $500 increase in just two seasons (I have a pair of seats).

Ouch!  You have my empathy.

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On 2/23/2022 at 12:15 PM, hoorta said:

I suspect we're stuck with  Hooper 2022. $11 million dead cap hit. 

Why has his (and others) OBJ, Landry's production gone south? Hmmm Baker? 

Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  :)

I'm not sure if you watched Hooper much, but that guy dropped more passes that hit him in both hands than anybody I've ever seen. 

Berry's worst signing by far. 

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56 minutes ago, LBC mike said:

I want to retain Walker and Ronnie Harrison this year.   played well last season

Walker played tentative last year.  Looked like he was shot out of a cannon at times for the Colts but consistently a step behind for us and I thought below average in pass coverage.

Ronnie Harrison it could be argued pretty easily was our worst starter on defense last year.  It was the stupid plays and penalties he made and the plays he didn’t make…one in particular there was a key 4th down play in the Charger game they are backed up in their own territory and the Chargers go for it…watch his run fill on the play. 

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On 2/23/2022 at 12:15 PM, hoorta said:

I suspect we're stuck with  Hooper 2022. $11 million dead cap hit. 

Why has his (and others) OBJ, Landry's production gone south? Hmmm Baker? 

Yes, and Landry wants to stay. I'm all for that, with a restructured contract.  :)

I had a feeling feeling his numbers were going down,  i was wrong  his numbers are WAY DOWN from his glory years of 2018, 2019.  And when guys get stone hands their targets go way down too.  You can't trust them any more. 

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Career       88 57 408 298 3024 10.1 23 150 88 3.4 34.4 73.0% 7.4                 298 10.1 3024 23 0 27  
4 yrs ATL     59 28 277 214 2244 10.5 16 105 88 3.6 38.0 77.3% 8.1                 214 10.5 2244 16 0 20  
2 yrs CLE     29 29 131 84 780 9.3 7 45 36 2.9 26.9 64.1% 6.0                 84 9.3 780 7 0 7
2016 22 ATL   81 14 3 27 19 271 14.3 3 16 44 1.4 19.4 70.4% 10.0                 19 14.3 271 3 0 3  
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2019* 25 ATL TE 81 13 10 97 75 787 10.5 6 41 35 5.8 60.5 77.3% 8.1                 75 10.5 787 6 0 6 PB
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