Banning a Book about the Holocaust

[Westside Steve]

59 minutes ago, cccjwh said:

School Calendar Jumps To March 1 After Critical Race Theory Ban Prohibits Month Of February (theonion.com)

😀

Not a bad idea.

 

WSS

[cccjwh]

Book Bans Are Back. Here's What's In Danger. - The Atlantic

Book banning is back. Texas State Representative Matt Krause recently put more than 800 books on a watch list, many of them dealing with race and LGBTQ issues. Then an Oklahoma state senator filed a bill to ban books that address “sexual perversion,” among other things, from school libraries. The school board of McMinn County, Tennessee, just banned Maus, Art Spiegelman’s Pulitzer Prize–winning graphic memoir about the Holocaust. Officials said that they didn’t object to teaching about genocide, but that the book’s profanity, nudity, violence, and depiction of suicide made it “too adult-oriented for use in our schools.”

 

To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee

Lee’s 1960 novel about a white lawyer defending a Black man falsely accused of rape in a segregated Alabama town won the Pulitzer Prize and was adapted into an Oscar-winning film. The novel, long used in classrooms as a parable about American racism, has faced various controversies over the decades. Last week, it was removed from a Washington State school district’s required-reading list—although not outright banned—for its racial slurs and for the perception of Atticus Finch as a white savior.

The Handmaid’s Tale, by Margaret Atwood

Atwood’s popular dystopian story turns the United States into a Christian theocracy called Gilead, where fertile women are stripped of their name and impregnated against their will. Its sexual violence and criticism of religion have made it ripe for challenges in schools. The original book, its adaptation into a graphic novel, and its sequel, The Testaments, were pulled from circulation, then quickly restored, in a Kansas school district in November.

Maus, by Art Spiegelman

The truth of the Holocaust is both abstracted and explicitly rendered in the graphic memoir Maus, which was banned in a Tennessee county last month by a unanimous vote. Spiegelman draws his Jewish family and protagonists as mice, Germans as cats, and Poles as pigs, but this style doesn’t fully blunt the hideousness of the victims’ suffering. Some of the topics that got the book banned, such as Spiegelman’s mother’s suicide, are essential to rendering the effects of the war. Without them, it would be a different story entirely.

 

[BaconHound]

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/26/tennessee-school-board-bans-holocaust-comic-maus-by-art-spiegelman.html

 

 

Does anyone here actually agree with banning this book from an 8th grade class?

 

(without even getting into all of the books conservatives are currently trying to ban from school while shouting about cancel culture...)

 

Nationalism at its worst

[Canton Dawg]

47 minutes ago, cccjwh said:

Book Bans Are Back. Here's What's In Danger. - The Atlantic

Book banning is back. Texas State Representative Matt Krause recently put more than 800 books on a watch list, many of them dealing with race and LGBTQ issues. Then an Oklahoma state senator filed a bill to ban books that address “sexual perversion,” among other things, from school libraries. The school board of McMinn County, Tennessee, just banned Maus, Art Spiegelman’s Pulitzer Prize–winning graphic memoir about the Holocaust. Officials said that they didn’t object to teaching about genocide, but that the book’s profanity, nudity, violence, and depiction of suicide made it “too adult-oriented for use in our schools.”

 

To Kill a Mockingbird, by Harper Lee

Lee’s 1960 novel about a white lawyer defending a Black man falsely accused of rape in a segregated Alabama town won the Pulitzer Prize and was adapted into an Oscar-winning film. The novel, long used in classrooms as a parable about American racism, has faced various controversies over the decades. Last week, it was removed from a Washington State school district’s required-reading list—although not outright banned—for its racial slurs and for the perception of Atticus Finch as a white savior.

The Handmaid’s Tale, by Margaret Atwood

Atwood’s popular dystopian story turns the United States into a Christian theocracy called Gilead, where fertile women are stripped of their name and impregnated against their will. Its sexual violence and criticism of religion have made it ripe for challenges in schools. The original book, its adaptation into a graphic novel, and its sequel, The Testaments, were pulled from circulation, then quickly restored, in a Kansas school district in November.

Maus, by Art Spiegelman

The truth of the Holocaust is both abstracted and explicitly rendered in the graphic memoir Maus, which was banned in a Tennessee county last month by a unanimous vote. Spiegelman draws his Jewish family and protagonists as mice, Germans as cats, and Poles as pigs, but this style doesn’t fully blunt the hideousness of the victims’ suffering. Some of the topics that got the book banned, such as Spiegelman’s mother’s suicide, are essential to rendering the effects of the war. Without them, it would be a different story entirely.

 

You forgot to include Dr Suess.

[cccjwh]

8 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said:

You forgot to include Dr Suess.

No school board/govt banned it. I guess your news source lied to you? Or you could just be dumb, or both.

[Vambo]

10 minutes ago, cccjwh said:

No school board/govt banned it. I guess your news source lied to you? Or you could just be dumb, or both.

[Canton Dawg]

33 minutes ago, cccjwh said:

No school board/govt banned it. I guess your news source lied to you? Or you could just be dumb, or both.

 

[cccjwh]

1 hour ago, Canton Dawg said:

 

So it's both.

[Gorka]

2 hours ago, cccjwh said:

No school board/govt banned it. I guess your news source lied to you? Or you could just be dumb, or both.

I'm going to ask you....should they ban it? 

Being the flaming libtard that you are, your answer can only be "yes".

Answering "no" would make you the two faced double talking libtard we all know that you are.

Well?

[MLD Woody]

2 hours ago, Canton Dawg said:

You forgot to include Dr Suess.

No school or person banned Dr Seuss. The Seuss estate decided to stop printing a few books with racist depictions. 

[Westside Steve]

5 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

No school or person banned Dr Seuss. The Seuss estate decided to stop printing a few books with racist depictions. 

Really? What was "racist" about it  ?

WSS

[cccjwh]

31 minutes ago, Gorka said:

I'm going to ask you....should they ban it? 

Being the flaming libtard that you are, your answer can only be "yes".

Answering "no" would make you the two faced double talking libtard we all know that you are.

Well?

Sorry Beavis. I'm not a cult member so I can have my opinion. I know you cultists have made up your boogieman left to justify your lack of morals and principles. Book banning has been one of the conservatives favorite past time. I always wonder why the banned The Catcher in the Rye (terrible book), but it seems many conservatives saw it as "anti-white". Doesn't that sound familiar. Don't forget all of the banning for the Satanic Panic. 

Any of you cultists could have said yeah this is bad idea, but you are just train way to well. You have to defend everything your groups does and own the libs not matter what. It is your whole life after all. I think banning books is a bad idea, no matter who is doing it. 

 

[cccjwh]

5 minutes ago, Westside Steve said:

Really? What was "racist" about it  ?

WSS

I'm sure he can explain it to you. Right after you admit your mistake. Nobody banned the books.

In a statement published by The Associated Press, a company representative said: "Ceasing sales of these books is only part of our commitment and our broader plan to ensure Dr. Seuss Enterprises' catalog represents and supports all communities and families... Dr. Seuss Enterprises listened and took feedback from our audiences including teachers, academics and specialists in the field as part of our review process. We then worked with a panel of experts, including educators, to review our catalog of titles."

 

[Gorka]

22 minutes ago, cccjwh said:

Sorry Beavis. I'm not a cult member so I can have my opinion. I know you cultists have made up your boogieman left to justify your lack of morals and principles. Book banning has been one of the conservatives favorite past time. I always wonder why the banned The Catcher in the Rye (terrible book), but it seems many conservatives saw it as "anti-white". Doesn't that sound familiar. Don't forget all of the banning for the Satanic Panic. 

Any of you cultists could have said yeah this is bad idea, but you are just train way to well. You have to defend everything your groups does and own the libs not matter what. It is your whole life after all. I think banning books is a bad idea, no matter who is doing it. 

 

Uh -huh, as I predicted.  A deflection full of mumbo jumbo. 

You are so consumed and mired in liberal muck.

Take your blinders off and take note of these books banned by school officials.

Should they be banned? 

Liberals Ban Conservative Book List. Now You Know the Books to Read! • Gary DeMar

 

[cccjwh]

30 minutes ago, Gorka said:

Uh -huh, as I predicted.  A deflection full of mumbo jumbo. 

You are so consumed and mired in liberal muck.

Take your blinders off and take note of these books banned by school officials.

Should they be banned? 

Liberals Ban Conservative Book List. Now You Know the Books to Read! • Gary DeMar

 

I'm sorry. Let me repeat it for you again, Dorka. 

 I think banning books is a bad idea, no matter who is doing it. 

You found a real gem there Dorka. You guys sure do hate gay people a lot.

Gary DeMar | Southern Poverty Law Center (splcenter.org)

The group advocates for a complete theocracy governed by Old Testament law. He is an outspoken anti-gay activist who regularly hosts and speaks at Christian-right events.

In His Own Words:
“The Bible is clear on moral issues that are culture killers: homosexuality, homosexual marriage, and abortion.”
– “Why Liberals (Sometimes) Love the Bible,” American Vision website, Dec. 21, 2009

But what is it that you think your link proves?  No books were banned. Maybe you guys just don't understand what the word means?

 

 

[Westside Steve]

1 hour ago, cccjwh said:

I'm sure he can explain it to you. Right after you admit your mistake. Nobody banned the books.

In a statement published by The Associated Press, a company representative said: "Ceasing sales of these books is only part of our commitment and our broader plan to ensure Dr. Seuss Enterprises' catalog represents and supports all communities and families... Dr. Seuss Enterprises listened and took feedback from our audiences including teachers, academics and specialists in the field as part of our review process. We then worked with a panel of experts, including educators, to review our catalog of titles."

 

actuate the entire thread is about Maus being banned. Was it? If not the entire thread is bullshit which we knew. But whether or not the company decided to quit publishing the books they were banned originally by the Chicago Public Schools. Is that not the case?

And for the record, no I don't think he can explain it.

WSS

[cccjwh]

Just now, Westside Steve said:

actuate the entire thread is about Maus being banned. Was it? If not the entire thread is bullshit which we knew. But whether or not the company decided to quit publishing the books they were banned originally by the Chicago Public Schools. Is that not the case?

And for the record know I don't think he can explain it.

So you aren't going to admit your mistake. This is one thing that is consistent with most conservatives and damn near all cult members. You never admit a mistake. It has to be the leading cause of your stupidity. Without admitting you were wrong about something, you can't learn anything from the mistake.

 

[Westside Steve]

3 minutes ago, cccjwh said:

So you aren't going to admit your mistake. This is one thing that is consistent with most conservatives and damn near all cult members. You never admit a mistake. It has to be the leading cause of your stupidity. Without admitting you were wrong about something, you can't learn anything from the mistake.

 

 Well you're wrong for what it's worth. Whether or not the corporation stopped printing those books they were in fact banned by Chicago School Board. They were not removed from the shelves because they were no longer in print. Two simultaneous and separate actions. I have no doubt, and neither do you if you were honest, which I doubt it, that there are any number of books and libraries across the United States which are currently out of print. Nitpicking? Possibly but at the end of the day I am right and you are wrong.

 Now for you and your woodpecker to explain to me exactly what was racist about them?

WSS

[Westside Steve]

9 minutes ago, cccjwh said:

So you aren't going to admit your mistake. This is one thing that is consistent with most conservatives and damn near all cult members. You never admit a mistake. It has to be the leading cause of your stupidity. Without admitting you were wrong about something, you can't learn anything from the mistake.

 

Make sure to see the previous post but here is the NBC news story tell him exactly why the books were banned by The Chicago School Board nothing about the corporation taking them out of print.

WSS

[DieHardBrownsFan]

[MLD Woody]

3 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Really? What was "racist" about it  ?

WSS

Come on man... We're not going through this. Look it up. This one is cut and dry...

[Westside Steve]

2 hours ago, MLD Woody said:

Come on man... We're not going through this. Look it up. This one is cut and dry...

I did look it up.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

First of all you and your wife have no idea what the word means. But you don't care so there's that.

Unfortunately the cccp woodpecker definition is not giving minorities a pass on antisocial Behavior.

Second of all oh... Who cares.

WSS