laiccm Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 Baker has led the league in interceptions since being in the league. Off the field issues that are not legal or suspendable but unnecessarily annoying Broke rookie TD record Led team to playoffs Led team to playoff win against Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh At times very accurate What I read about Brisset who is also less expensive, bigger and faster than Baker but never led a team to the playoffs. "Brissett will join his fourth NFL team since entering the league in 2016 and has played 60 games with 37 starts. He’s passed for 7,772 yards, 36 touchdowns and 17 interceptions, including 1,281 yards, five touchdowns and four interceptions in 11 games and five starts with the Miami Dolphins last season" Is Baker better than Brissett? If so....by how much do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 I’m thinking Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 Baker v Brisset sounds like a chefs competition on Food Network TV. No seriously we'll just have to wait and see if/when Brisset hits the field in a BROWNS uniform. Baker has had his tryout in Cleveland I'm just wondering who will who would pick him, for how much, starter or backup all that good stuff.. Brisset has the luxury of handling off the ball 🏈 off to Chubb & Co. behind a decent OL with the WR group still to be completely finalized. Not a tough assignment but remember Baker had that same group with mixed results -or- we wouldn't be having this discussion right now......right ? Baker Mayfield didn't exactly take the BROWNS to the next level with any consistent results that's why we're discussing Watson/Brisset who will have the 2022 team's future in they're hands for the first 8 games ? SO to change up the mood of things who do you think will win the AFCN this year ? Who will finish last ? GO BROWNS ! #1 in our hearts forever. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiccm Posted March 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, mjp28 said: Baker v Brisset sounds like a chefs competition on Food Network TV. No seriously we'll just have to wait and see if/when Brisset hits the field in a BROWNS uniform. Baker has had his tryout in Cleveland I'm just wondering who will who would pick him, for how much, starter or backup all that good stuff.. Brisset has the luxury of handling off the ball 🏈 off to Chubb & Co. behind a decent OL with the WR group still to be completely finalized. Not a tough assignment but remember Baker had that same group with mixed results -or- we wouldn't be having this discussion right now......right ? Baker Mayfield didn't exactly take the BROWNS to the next level with any consistent results that's why we're discussing Watson/Brisset who will have the 2022 team's future in they're hands ? SO to change up the mood of things who do you think will win the AFCN this year ? Who will finish last ? GO BROWNS ! #1 in our hearts forever. yes it does!! lol I think the Browns......only because the Ravens didn't upgrade really, Bengals will be a close 2nd cuz they did...they got lucky alot last year, and the Steelers are starting Trubisky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiccm Posted March 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: I’m thinking Super Bowl. Very Good points...I would say in Brissett defense most of it was in a backup role and Dolphins were a mess last year and I'm not a big QBR guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 Faker Mayfair blows 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, 7moses7 said: Faker Mayfair blows 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 So do you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, SdBacker80 said: Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiccm Posted March 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, SdBacker80 said: Moot point playing the comparison game. Truthfully I don’t feel comfortable with either but the NFL may decide that we are going to be without Watson for maybe 8 or so games. Moving forward, One will not be our QB and the other will play QB for us for a short period of time. its a "discussion" board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodilobo Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 23 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: I’m thinking Super Bowl. "Liars will figure, but figures won't lie..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 22 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on. Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics. Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus. We shall see WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 Brissett is very average... LOL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiccm Posted March 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, nickers said: Brissett is very average... LOL... Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiccm Posted March 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Westside Steve said: Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics. Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus. We shall see WSS No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, laiccm said: No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on. Once again maturity TV commercials whatever bulshit you guys pull out of your ass to justify your hatred means absolutely nothing. You're just parroting the words you heard some jack off radio guy spew. Especially if you are licking the butt of DeShaun Watson WSS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiccm Posted March 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Once again maturity TV commercials whatever bulshit you guys pull out of your ass to justify your hatred means absolutely nothing. You're just parroting the words you heard some jack off radio guy spew. Especially if you are licking the butt of DeShaun Watson WSS No parroting needed-just pay attention. Attacking medical staff, former coaches, local journalists, tv talking heads..etc...heck...the moron could've had a job after Watson turned the Browns down but he demanded a trade because of his feelings getting hurt. No one wants your guy for even half the price of an elite QB------ so it matters. His career is in danger.......you can go root for his mediocre ass at the USFL next year tho.....lol!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 31 minutes ago, laiccm said: Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker? Yes... Baker is a much better QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiccm Posted March 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, nickers said: Yes... Baker is a much better QB ok. I think Baker is better as well...but I don't think by that much. 13-20 mill a year more? Brisset is a little under 5 mill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television. And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiccm Posted March 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television. And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in. WSS Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him. Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him. bottomline 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, laiccm said: Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him. Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him. bottomline Teams might want Mayfield but at a greatly reduced price as a starter -or- even a backup. I guess we'll have to wait and see......the 2022 draft is only a few weeks away. Any chance that the former #1 pick can't come to terms and sits out the season ? Or the quarterback hungry NFL finally come up with a deal for Mayfield and the BROWNS ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television. And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in. WSS Kenny Stabler and Jim McMahon?.. I mean hell Stabler drank his ass off and smoked dope lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laiccm Posted March 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 hours ago, mjp28 said: Teams might want Mayfield but at a greatly reduced price as a starter -or- even a backup. I guess we'll have to wait and see......the 2022 draft is only a few weeks away. Any chance that the former #1 pick can't come to terms and sits out the season ? Or the quarterback hungry NFL finally come up with a deal for Mayfield and the BROWNS ? Very good analysis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 3 hours ago, laiccm said: Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him. Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him. bottomline This is very true, unfortunately. Just like Ben. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 11 hours ago, Westside Steve said: Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics. Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus. We shall see WSS The biggest reason Baker hasn’t made it to another team, is simply the other QB needy teams have the Browns over a barrel. They’re stuck with a guaranteed contract and everyone knows it. They are waiting for the Browns to sweeten the deal with a buyout or draft pick or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippinTurtles Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker. Average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, SkippinTurtles said: Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker. Average. Colt McCoy has a record of 23 - 29 Baker Mayfield has a record of 30 - 30 Deshaun Watson has a record of 28 - 26 I would say all 3 are pedestrian numbers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, SkippinTurtles said: Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker. Average. Total bullshit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippinTurtles Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Manziel 3rd string would be a party. Trailer Park Boys life. Randers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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