cambridgeho Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Return spealist Grant carted off today with possible torn Achilles. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/09/reports-torn-achilles-feared-for-jakeem-grant/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, cambridgeho said: Return spealist Grant carted off today with possible torn Achilles. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/09/reports-torn-achilles-feared-for-jakeem-grant/ This is a bummer. I think we are okay with Felton- he’s obviously secure now. I expect him to make a big leap from Year 1 and 2 as a pass catcher and a returner 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 gumby's guy didn't last long. What's Jojo Natson doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 13 hours ago, Orion said: gumby's guy didn't last long. What's Jojo Natson doing? so disappointed that/that was the only football link I'll read today 😪... that just sucks..we just can't have nice things I became a fan of J.Grant's play style, watching him play a preseason game against Cleveland vs. Miami a few years ago.I think Grant was a rookie back than? I can't blame Mike Priefer for putting a target on this guy 2 years ago This loss should hopefully require Berry to jump past the UDFA WR market... Wishing you the best of luck in your recovery Jakeem Grant.. 💪 edit- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 As much as I like having Felton as a utility, there is no duplicating Jakeems acceleration and impact on the return game. That's not including him having a role as a receiver and taking over that lateral threat on the jets we originally envisioned for Schwartz. Field position will be huge for this team the first 6-8 games. This loss is bigger than most think. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 13 hours ago, SdBacker80 said: This is a bummer. I think we are okay with Felton- he’s obviously secure now. I expect him to make a big leap from Year 1 and 2 as a pass catcher and a returner It sucks! That said, I like your thinking about Felton. I remember the 1st time Josh Cribbs tried to return a punt when Northcutt was injured. It didn't go well. The early conclusion after the growing pains was Northcutt wasn't replaceable in the return game. We all know what happened when Northcutt departed. The Browns upgraded the return game with Cribbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Flugel said: It sucks! That said, I like your thinking about Felton. I remember the 1st time Josh Cribbs tried to return a punt when Northcutt was injured. It didn't go well. The early conclusion after the growing pains was Northcutt wasn't replaceable in the return game. We all know what happened when Northcutt departed. The Browns upgraded the return game with Cribbs. we did and I was not a northcutt fan…I thought he lacked basic football IQ meaning he did a lot of stupid things and his drops were killers (see the playoff game vs. Steelers). I think I’m higher on Felton than most. I watch a lot of late night PAC12 football and he impressed me at UCLA when they weren’t trying to run him between the tackles. He’s not a traditional running back in our scheme. I think he benefits a lot arguably the most having professional QB play from guys like Watson and Brissett where the ball is out before the Break and in a spot where he’s not breaking stride. Return game I’d be naive to think he would overshadow or be on par with a guy like Grant but the potential to get better is there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 Cleveland Browns lose WR Jakeem Grant for season to torn Achilles https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34379063/source-cleveland-browns-lose-wr-jakeem-grant-torn-achilles BEREA, Ohio -- Cleveland Browns wide receiver and kick returner Jakeem Grant Sr. has a torn Achilles and will miss the entire 2022 season after being placed on injured reserve Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 hour ago, SdBacker80 said: we did and I was not a northcutt fan…I thought he lacked basic football IQ meaning he did a lot of stupid things and his drops were killers (see the playoff game vs. Steelers). I think I’m higher on Felton than most. I watch a lot of late night PAC12 football and he impressed me at UCLA when they weren’t trying to run him between the tackles. He’s not a traditional running back in our scheme. I think he benefits a lot arguably the most having professional QB play from guys like Watson and Brissett where the ball is out before the Break and in a spot where he’s not breaking stride. Return game I’d be naive to think he would overshadow or be on par with a guy like Grant but the potential to get better is there. I think it might be an ideal role to get Felton in open fields. He just needs the experience; and this is the time of year to get him the game day reps. I was never a Northcutt fan either. That said, he was very reliable as a punt returner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 5 hours ago, tiamat63 said: This loss is bigger than most think. This is why I suggested Jojo Natson. He's a player that is a specialist at being a specialist. He knows and understands all of the quirky rules involved in the return game(s). And frankly, Felton & DPJ don't give me the warm fuzzies regarding the fielding of the football aspect. It's hugely important to keep the field from flipping instantaneously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, Orion said: This is why I suggested Jojo Natson. He's a player that is a specialist at being a specialist. He knows and understands all of the quirky rules involved in the return game(s). And frankly, Felton & DPJ don't give me the warm fuzzies regarding the fielding of the football aspect. It's hugely important to keep the field from flipping instantaneously. So what WR or Back do you want to cut bringing Natson in…I think we need a PR/KR/WR. Natson doesn’t give me the warm fuzzies playing WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 52 minutes ago, SdBacker80 said: So what WR or Back do you want to cut bringing Natson in… No need. He would simply slide into Jakeem Grant's intended roster spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Orion said: No need. He would simply slide into Jakeem Grant's intended roster spot. So Woods and Wims (both have done well thus far to the practice squad) to bring on a guy that will essentially just return kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 39 minutes ago, SdBacker80 said: So Woods and Wims (both have done well thus far to the practice squad) to bring on a guy that will essentially just return kicks. Just sayin'. If ya need a returner, that guy did a nice job while he was with us. At WR, right now, after Amari Cooper, nobody scares anyone. DPJ had a good camp last year. But when the starting corners trotted onto the field his production went down. Schwartz is hurt a lot, Bell, a late third rounder, who knows what he'll be able to do. Wims is a 7th rounder from 4 years ago who spent last year on the Raiders practice squad. He looks good gettin' off the bus though. Hopefully he breaks out. Or somebody does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Orion said: He knows and understands all of the quirky rules involved in the return game(s). And frankly, Felton & DPJ don't give me the warm fuzzies regarding the fielding of the football aspect. Yes.. Jojo Natson does know the quirky rules in return games... But the Rams, cut Natson because he kept fumbling the ball on the turf..same here/than injured. Look at the ball on the ground stats of D.Felton...(4 or 5, we lucky recovered 2) This is why DPJ still get's looks in the return game.. We need a WR4/5 with a return game.. Losing WR2 DPJ at any point this season becomes a real concern with this WR roster.. We've also seen D'E Johnson returning punts/KO's.. Jerome Ford ain't slow at 210lbs/ 40 of 4.46.. but he has no ST return stats in college https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2022/8/10/23299318/so-who-is-going-to-return-kickoffs-and-punts-now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 2 hours ago, gumby73 said: We've also seen D'E Johnson returning He was doing some Kick-offs. Caught it nicely and kind of made a running play out of it. Trying to set up blockers and follow little rays of daylight in different directions. He wasn't gonna take it to the house but did a nice job. Of course, trying to run any KO back can bring in the illegal block penalty that can put ya back inside the 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 @Zombo Are you going to get away long enough, from your Lair of women massage table's and reveal Your Depth Chart thread? Per the Browns website.. 88 are on the active roster.. Count does not include Day/Ward/Grant/Weatherby on a injury status.. Leaving 3 that gotta go by this Tuesday... #1) should be easily moving Nick Harris to IR.. Any thoughts on the other 2 by Tuesday? If roster status stays as is? a) We won't keep 2 punters.. but that's not on cut #1 b.) imo, T Ben Petrula saw #3 reps that should fall under upgrade-able.. 👀 c.) I'm certain someone else saw a 2nd or 3rd rotten egg ? Brad Stainbrook ✔@StainbrookNFL #Browns will need to cut roster down from 90 to 85 by Tuesday. The Browns do Practice today, Sun./Mon & Tues.(so matters may work it self out. Option #4.) No Practice Weds. The Inter-squad with Philly is Closed to fans Thursday & Friday So if all goes well? Whom ya got being cut? Team Cut's #1 on Tuesday 🤔 #1- IR Nick Harris #2. #3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 Oh gumby you're on your game today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 4 hours ago, mjp28 said: Oh gumby you're on your game today. Damn, gotta dig my gumby decoder ring out of off-season storage.🕸️🧭🕷️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, TexasAg1969 said: Damn, gotta dig my gumby decoder ring out of off-season storage.🕸️🧭🕷️ Few Sunday updates.. As advertised, Jacoby Brissett first up in 7 on 7s. Myles Garrett excused from practice for personal reasons, per club. Kevin Stefanski said no final word yet on whether C Nick Harris will need season-ending knee surgery CB Greg Newsome (hamstring) out a few days; missed Jags game.. WR Michael Woods II (hamstring) to remain out this week per #Browns HC Kevin Stefanski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Knew I didn't like Monday's.. 🤕 Browns C Dawson Deaton was carted off the field at practice today. (MRI KNee) Browns Michael Dunn now slides over to center with the 2s. Browns Rookie WR/PR Mike Harley Jr. just walked off field with member of staff. (ankle) Browns Kevin Stefanski said Myles Garrett remains excused today (2) Rookie DE Isaiah Thomas walking inside with a trainer. (Hand) We have activated CB Denzel Ward from the active/PUP list and waived WR Derrick Dillon more here https://brownswire.usatoday.com/lists/browns-training-camp-myles-garrett-rumors-deshaun-watson-jacoby-brissett-eagles/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 minute ago, gumby73 said: Knew I didn't like Monday's.. 🤕 Browns C Dawson Deaton was carted off the field at practice today. (MRI KNee) Browns Michael Dunn now slides over to center with the 2s. Browns Rookie WR/PR Mike Harley Jr. just walked off field with member of staff. (ankle) Browns Kevin Stefanski said Myles Garrett remains excused today (2) Rookie DE Isaiah Thomas walking inside with a trainer. (Hand) We have activated CB Denzel Ward from the active/PUP list and waived WR Derrick Dillon more here https://brownswire.usatoday.com/lists/browns-training-camp-myles-garrett-rumors-deshaun-watson-jacoby-brissett-eagles/ Injuries at center are what doomed this team and caused them to miss the wildcard in 2014. (on top of Jim O Neil's awful coaching and designs) There's just so much happening on both side of your in an outside zone running game. If I'm remembering right, Mack broke his leg while on an outside zone call to Crow. Either way, time to reach into the free agent pool or give Tretter a call. Depth that can actually function has to be maintained and you're a play away from disaster at the moment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, tiamat63 said: Either way, time to reach into the free agent pool or give Tretter a call. As much as I would love to have JC Tretter at Center, I doubt that AB will make the call. He’s a good player, but he has that stigma as Prez of the NFLPA. Especially with the current DW drama dragging on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Canton Dawg said: As much as I would love to have JC Tretter at Center, I doubt that AB will make the call. He’s a good player, but he has that stigma as Prez of the NFLPA. Especially with the current DW drama dragging on. That is an interesting angle regarding Tretter and the Browns. Then again, if the Browns want Watson to play, perhaps getting the NFLPA President is exactly who you want on your side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: That is an interesting angle regarding Tretter and the Browns. Then again, if the Browns want Watson to play, perhaps getting the NFLPA President is exactly who you want on your side? True, but I’m thinking of looking at it from Roger’s perspective. At this point it’s all speculation, because I think Roger has already made up his mind. I’m sure the other NFL owners want to hang Haslam from the highest tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Just now, Canton Dawg said: True, but I’m thinking of looking at it from Roger’s perspective. I'll admit, them taking their sweet time announcing their new decision that has been in the bag from the second Goodell said "Uh, thanks but no thanks" to the six game original suspension is such sweet icing to this shit cake that's been baking since March 18th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted August 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Ahh, 💩 Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo · Follow An MRI confirmed #Browns C Dawson Deaton suffered a torn ACL in practice today, sources say. After Cleveland lost starter Nick Harris the other day, another player at the position goes down. Ethan Pocic and Brock Hoffman still standing, though. Michael Dunn took some snaps at Center in last preseason games too.. AB knows where to find Bill Callahan.. I find nothing saying Tretter has even taken a team visit in 2022.. Looking a WR=PR/DT/ and now a Center... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korsou Dawg Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Don't care if it Tretter or someone else, but we have a hole to plug at C. Time to use some of that cap space! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Korsou Dawg said: Don't care if it Tretter or someone else, but we have a hole to plug at C. Time to use some of that cap space! Love it how people print SB tickets soon as they hear Watson's name then realize shit.. It takes a whole team when you lose your starting then backup center lol... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Weatherly also tore ACL. Day was an almost inevitable cut because he was NFI with a back injury and out all of camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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