TexasAg1969 Posted June 15, 2022 Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 I give it an A+. I checked it out with my racquetball partner who was an instructor at the USAF Weapons School (equivalent to Navy "Top Gun"}. He confirmed that it was a great movie to show exactly what it's like to be a fighter pilot and told me the canyon scenes are not fake at all. Those planes and pilots really do have training canyons that they run through. The one in the mountains in the end is located in Washington state (not giving away any movie ending other than location). Anyway his take for all the flying scenes is also A+ with only a technical glitch or two. He loved the movie as well. I only had two things that I felt could not ever happen, but I will only talk about one for now and the other after others have had a chance to see the movie. The first is that no one will still be in the service if they are still a Capt. after 30 years. That comes out right at the beginning of the movie so no spoiler there. Captains get rifted if they don't make major well before year 20. They don't even qualify for retirement unless they spent many years enlisted and later in their career became an officer. It is relatively rare that that happens, but it does happen in the Army anyway. I don't know about the AF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 15, 2022 Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 Oops I forgot to post a review. I gave it an a. Wishy-washy about the first one, I thought this one was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Westside Steve said: Oops I forgot to post a review. I gave it an a. Wishy-washy about the first one, I thought this one was great. Me too Steve. I didn't like the first one and then read how the second one was made with realistic in airplane cameras with actors flying 2nd seat with real qualified Top Gun pilots. Cruise does his own flying in the WW II Mustang which he owns and does aerobatics in all the time just for grins. Here is a really funny youtube where he takes the comedian James Corden for a "flying" lesson in that and a jet Cruise also flies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 15, 2022 Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 crap, we wanted to see that movie at the drive in theater, but when we got there, it was too late - sold out. I keep hearing that it is excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted June 15, 2022 Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: crap, we wanted to see that movie at the drive in theater, but when we got there, it was too late - sold out. I keep hearing that it is excellent. I suggest going to a real theater with a real screen. Just saying. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 15, 2022 Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: I suggest going to a real theater with a real screen. Just saying. WSS probably, but I'm really nostalgic about the drive-ins. The one in Strasburg is one of the oldest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: probably, but I'm really nostalgic about the drive-ins. The one in Strasburg is one of the oldest. And people I know who have found the IMAX version say it is unbelievable. I may have to make a trip into my least favorite place to go.....................Asstin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 I talked to my pilot friend some more today and found out the reason he was asked to be an instructor. They take just the top few percentage of any one airplane to send them through that school at Nellis. He ended up being the top of his class in that school. So I asked him what he did to score that well. He and his wingman were attacked by 4 "Migs" who immediately shot down his wingman who then had to vacate the course. He was able to shoot down all 4 of the Migs using multiple weapons systems with multiple maneuvers to get into the proper position to get each one in turn without any of them being able to lock on to him because of the unique ways he use to shake each one. They offered him the job on the spot because no pilot had ever been able to accomplish that in any of their classes put through the schools. He was the real life "Maverick" you see in the movie when he was a young man. He first instructed in F-4s and then he and another instructor developed the course for the F-16 and ran that for a few years too. He said he was glad he could take his wife to see the movie so she could see the kind of skill it took to be a fighter pilot, "And now maybe she won't give me so much shit about how I drive which is very tame in comparison (he has a Corvette).😱😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 On 6/15/2022 at 8:13 AM, TexasAg1969 said: I give it an A+. I checked it out with my racquetball partner who was an instructor at the USAF Weapons School (equivalent to Navy "Top Gun"}. He confirmed that it was a great movie to show exactly what it's like to be a fighter pilot and told me the canyon scenes are not fake at all. Those planes and pilots really do have training canyons that they run through. The one in the mountains in the end is located in Washington state (not giving away any movie ending other than location). Anyway his take for all the flying scenes is also A+ with only a technical glitch or two. He loved the movie as well. I only had two things that I felt could not ever happen, but I will only talk about one for now and the other after others have had a chance to see the movie. The first is that no one will still be in the service if they are still a Capt. after 30 years. That comes out right at the beginning of the movie so no spoiler there. Captains get rifted if they don't make major well before year 20. They don't even qualify for retirement unless they spent many years enlisted and later in their career became an officer. It is relatively rare that that happens, but it does happen in the Army anyway. I don't know about the AF. I didn't see the movie. Was the Captain a Navy Captain? If so you realize that is an 06 equivalent to a Col in the other services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 Yeah, I finally figured that out, so Duh!🤔 But the other glitch at the beginning of the movie will hold. I checked with my pilot friend who shared the same opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 yep, lol, 06 is a Colonel. Capitol Police chief debunks key accusation that Democrats made against Republicans regarding January 6 https://www.federalpay.org/military/air-force/ranks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 back in the day.... I was an E4 - senior airman. I was often given E-5, staff sergeant, but I kept turning it down. lol there was no increase in pay then, but more responsibility. It was a nobrainer, my plan was to go to college after 4 years. The commander called me into the office one day, and was laughing about my turning it down. Nice to see it has a slight increase in pay now..... My ego didn't need another stripe..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: back in the day.... I was an E4 - senior airman. I was often given E-5, staff sergeant, but I kept turning it down. lol there was no increase in pay then, but more responsibility. It was a nobrainer, my plan was to go to college after 4 years. The commander called me into the office one day, and was laughing about my turning it down. Nice to see it has a slight increase in pay now..... My ego didn't need another stripe..... There has always been an increase in pay from E4 to E5 Cal, Don't know what you mean by that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: There has always been an increase in pay from E4 to E5 Cal, Don't know what you mean by that. I agree with DH cal. You screwed yourself. I don't know which year you were referring to, but here is the pay scale from 1975. https://www.dfas.mil/Portals/98/MilPayTable1975.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 4 hours ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: There has always been an increase in pay from E4 to E5 Cal, Don't know what you mean by that. I enlisted in 73', I didn't want the staff sgt anyways. But that is what I was told - not much change in pay, but I would start climbing towards "technical sgt". Just didn't care. Maybe it was "not much difference in pay" ... but yeah, I noted the difference in pay in the link I didn't post: Like I've said in the past - I had an open door into OSI, but explained to the commander I was so honored, but I figured my knee would never make it through the training. And, I didn't want to go around the world - I was goin to college. Didn't care to climb the ranks anyways, I was going back to civilian life. Never was interested in going overseas. I had a lot going on here. I was taking genetics and biology at the local state university, to go back into secondary education maybe. https://www.federalpay.org/military/air-force/ranks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns57 Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 Better than the first one for sure but still a little cheesy, and too much attempt to make it just like the first one. The football on the beach scene. The son playing his dads song on the piano, I mean cmon??? But the flying scenes were cool. Solid B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoolie Always Ghoolie Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 On 6/15/2022 at 7:58 AM, Westside Steve said: Oops I forgot to post a review. I gave it an a. Wishy-washy about the first one, I thought this one was great. LOVED IT. Corny, but Cruise is always fun. Felt bad for Kilmer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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