Mr. T Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Who in here likes the breath of fresh air that mangini has brought to the Browns? Just from watching the pre season, it seems to me that the players play a lot more physical and have a new aggressive behavior. Unlike what we have seen during the RAC years. After watching the preseason I cant wait to watch the regular season. I am ready for some meaningful Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingphisher Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Who in here likes the breath of fresh air that mangini has brought to the Browns? Just from watching the pre season, it seems to me that the players play a lot more physical and have a new aggressive behavior. Unlike what we have seen during the RAC years. After watching the preseason I cant wait to watch the regular season. I am ready for some meaningful Football. I am diggin what I have seen so far. I think he is laying a great foundation for the future of this team. T, you have the best Avatar picture I have seen yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimmreaper3 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 If I may make a slight lingual correction: Who in here likes the iron fist of discipline that mangini has brought to the Browns? Because, from what I've seen, there's not much refreshing about the way he runs the team. This is not a bad thing, however; ruling your team with an Iron Fist can be extremely beneficial: e.g., fiery play. I like it, and think that, though the Browns will likely not be a contender for the postseason (though 8-8 seems within reach, if unlikely), we very well could mess up the season of an aspiring contender. However, if we do make the playoffs, you may find the crow, and I will gladly eat it. But, back to the National Grammar Socialist, 'breath of fresh air' is not a fitting colloquialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 If I may make a slight lingual correction: Because, from what I've seen, there's not much refreshing about the way he runs the team. This is not a bad thing, however; ruling your team with an Iron Fist can be extremely beneficial: e.g., fiery play. I like it, and think that, though the Browns will likely not be a contender for the postseason (though 8-8 seems within reach, if unlikely), we very well could mess up the season of an aspiring contender. However, if we do make the playoffs, you may find the crow, and I will gladly eat it. But, back to the National Grammar Socialist, 'breath of fresh air' is not a fitting colloquialism. The colloquialism fits if the newness of the Mangini regime is so diametrically opposed to the previous regime and you like what you see. In this case, Mangini IS a breath of fresh air. This isn't a grammar thing. Grammar has nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 fook the grammer! Mangini is a sigh of relief! He makes the best Rolaids commercial after watching the fat ass empathetic RAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 i like everything that i see. i especially like the fact that he has a Head Coach stint behind him. He seems like a guy that learns from his experience- both good and bad. This should be a fun season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Cleveland Browns 2009: Dare to Dream Here we are Browns fans. The season is upon us. We have the same chance as everyone else to be a playoff team (as a Browns fan Super Bowl team is not even in my vocabulary) but why not us? Why can’t this year be our year? I keep asking myself why we can’t get a couple lucky bounces- okay a lot of lucky bounces. Maybe play a couple teams that overlook us; who knows? If we can’t dream now when we are all even chances are we won’t be able to dream later. Browns vs. Vikings week one you have a 39 year old quarterback who’s been known to throw picks for no other reason but to say hey, my name is Brett Favre, I’m a gunslinger, girls over forty love me. You have a coach Brad Childress when watching him coach actually makes you think that Romeo will get another job (girls over forty do not dig him). It’s a dream. It could happen any given Sunday. Look at the Dolphins from last year who went from 1-15 the previous season to 11-5. It could happen. Anything is possible. So I woke up after the win against Favre’s Vikings and started thinking; how did an under average team such as the Dolphins manage to go 11-5 with a quarterback (Chad Pennington) who makes Brady Quinn’s arm look like Jake Cutler’s, with a best receiver in Ted Ginn who is five foot ten and can’t run routes, with one of their running backs (Ricky Williams)that is so high on weed he makes "The Dude" look like The Pope. A defensive line that lost its best player (Jason Taylor) etc… you get the point. They were not exactly the Cowboys of the nineties. Rest of article Im going to dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I have liked the way mangini and his staff handle most things he really is a "my way or the highway" type of coach and i can see where he wants to go over the next couple of years he needs to get just a bit more press/fan friendly in my opinion which may happen over time but i wouldnt bet on it... The QB disaster stands out as a glaring weakness to this regime beginning with not naming a starter yet all the way to keeping ratliff over bartel in a sorely bias and unfair way in which many fans recognize and mangini has failed to justify thusfar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 you can also say that while Mangini has brought a newer discipline to the team, he also shown how to handle the veterens. Rogers, Lewis, specifics and contracts aside, he shows by example to the younger players that fair treatment comes after hard work and max effort at practice and on gameday. Plus Mangini has alot at stake in showing what a mistake Tannenbaum made firing him. I like him.... I think of Don Shula in style and hopefully results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Who in here likes the breath of fresh air that mangini has brought to the Browns? Just from watching the pre season, it seems to me that the players play a lot more physical and have a new aggressive behavior. Unlike what we have seen during the RAC years. After watching the preseason I cant wait to watch the regular season. I am ready for some meaningful Football. Just what the doctor ordered T. Get some discipline. Knock some heads. Don't stand on the sidelines like your in a diabetic coma (RAC). Lets get motivated here. Mangini looks like the guy so far. Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farang Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Last year this team looked like a joke at the beginning of the season, lots of false start penalties, players looking like they didn't know where to line up, delay of game penalties. I don't think that will happen this year and that will be a big improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownshirt Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Who in here likes the breath of fresh air that mangini has brought to the Browns? Just from watching the pre season, it seems to me that the players play a lot more physical and have a new aggressive behavior. Unlike what we have seen during the RAC years. After watching the preseason I cant wait to watch the regular season. I am ready for some meaningful Football. It is a breath of fresh air after the recycled, stagnant, stench we were forced to accept last year. 'meaningful Football' sums it up for me. It's what I've been waiting for since Anderceptions 4 pick effort against Cincy 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenby73 Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Night and day between RAC and Mangini, no doubt, and I am ALL for it. RAC stood on the sideline looking like he was busy thinking about what was going to be on the post game spread instead of what we should do on any particular play. For those of you unfortunate enough to remember when I joined this board in Sept. of 2007, first thing I did was start a thread "Romeo must go" so there's no question I'm happy with the change in atmosphere. We're either witnessing the birth of a very long tenured coach in Cleveland (wow, does that feel weird to type) or the unfortunate soon-to-be aftermath of another 3 and out. I'm pulling for ten years plus myself, but we all know that is determined by how many he wins and how soon, especially here. We're a great fan base but we're also tired. We support our team but we're also in an economic crunch and sooner or later we could be forced to allocate our funds for something other that watching a .500 team or below piss us off in person. I, unfortunately, for the first time in years will not be able to go to every game I want. I have access now to three sets of season tickets and cannot afford to make every game. Looks like I may get to half this year... Culture shock is setting in. I like what I see so far from Mangini. I like the physical nature. He has brought in several players that are familiar with him not only because we are deprived of talent, but they can also help smooth the transition. Smart move. He approached the draft not as a coach that felt it necessary to make a big splash and get a high profile player like a Sanchez, rather a coach that recognized the depravity and implemented a plan to fill as many gaps as possible. He approached it for a longer term versus a 'win over the masses' now. We all know the draft is 50/50, and while it doesn't appeal to many, there are a lot of us who see the value in taking lineman, offensive or defensive, because we feel the battle is won in the trenches. And thank God we didn't take Crabtree. What a mess. We're also smart enough to realize sometimes perception is reality. We can all ready see warning signs on the horizon... the "secret squirrel" approach that rubs a lot of the media and some fans the wrong way. Not the most appealing but I can wait. I'm okay with a front office that doesn't want to show their cards early, especially when it comes to the draft, however some are impatient. Not everyone feels a physical camp is the best route. An unfortunate injury or two can change an entire season and if one should occur, the coach is a moron for risking it. Then there's the keep 'em guessing at starting qb. Personally, I think Mangini knew for a long time but kept it under wraps for the debatable "edge" over our opponents. Of course there's been a few players that have been dismissed by Mangini, Smith and Hood come to mind, that don't have anything nice to say and that's to be expected. While none of these by themselves are enough to cause concern and for many of us will not come even close to outweighing the positives, we are also aware they are the seeds that will sprout if two years from now we are a .500 team at best. Winning fixes everything. If we don't... we'll hear rumors of more dissatisfied players. An all ready secretive regime pulls the collar on their cloak even higher leaving fans to create a grumble that only grows with each poor performance. Reporters who have squat for material from the team fill their line quota with teeth gnashing at the people making their job a nightmare. This in turn, fuels the fire that has all ready begun to burn in the guts of people who can't stand going to work on Monday and watching the shitbird and squealer fan gloat. Then we get to spend months on here not debating between DA and BQ, but whether or not Mankok needs to go. So here's hoping........ they draft gifted and INTELLIGENT athletes. they implement their plan and stick with it. they do the things we don't necessarily get to see as fans to keep the players focused, physically ready and mentally on board with their goals. as a collective fan base we give them the time necessary to right this ship. So far so good, as early as it may be in the Mankok era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I love what he has done so far.I want a disciplined team, not like its been in the past.I like when he put the qbs in the game with out notice.I liked the way the draft was done.I liked when he screamed at the defence, when they played bad in the first pre season opener.Not sure how they will finish ,but 8-8 with the schedule they have is achievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mz. Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I think Mangini's a fairly competent coach who, for some reason, think what he's currently doing is "smart" when, in reality, is making us the laughing stock of the league. If you think that's a "breath of fresh air," fine. I think it smells eerily similar to the air I'm used to smelling around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalBrownsFan Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 I am still in a wait and see attitude. He hasn't proven anythng to me till he starts winning games consistently, everything else is meaningless. I wasn't sold on Mangini being a great coach, and he has proven nothing to me so far that he is. We shall see. But he is better than RAC, except when it comes to the buffet table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndneighbor Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 This thread gave me good reason to root through the Wikipedia. After digging I concluded: (If I misread it some where, please speak up and we'll get the facts straight) Prior to Eric Mangini the Browns have had only one new head coach in their history who had prior head coaching experience in the NFL. It was Nick Skorich who got the job in 1970. Skorich had previously been head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. (Paul Brown is also excluded from the short list.) The short of it is that it's a rare moment that the Browns get to acquire a new head coach with prior NFL head coaching experience. I still feel that The Jets' impetuous decision to fire their coach after Favre the wrecking ball went through the Jets' org. will prove to be a godsend for the Browns. I also find it ironic that Mangini doesn't seem to have any impetuous in him. It seems that everything he does has a purpose. Even if it hasn't been revealed to the fans yet. It looks to me like he's happy to be out of NY and back where he started to get a second chance to be a HC. I think he learned alot from his NY experience and that experience is certainly why the press and fans are on a strict, "Need To Know" basis. If ever there was a good time to show a little faith and let the man do his job, it would be right now. LOL. Like we have a choice. Of course all of this is IMHO. I'm sure some of you might feel different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 He has an easier schedule than RAC. He has to beat a 4-12 record. Having said that. I will reserve my comments till i see the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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