Flugel Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 Here's Lindy's #2 ranked ILBer, Jack Campbell, Iowa, ILBer 6'4" 248 lbs, 4.72 40 time, 3rd round projection. Captain Jack Lindy's 1st ranked ILB - Henry To'oTo'o, Alabama ILB, 6'1" 230 lbs, 4.64 40 time, 2nd round projection Lindy's 3rd ranked ILB, Daiyan Henley, Washington State ILB, 6'1" 230 lbs, 4.68 40 time, 3rd round projection. This might be my favorite football player in this draft. He wears #1; flies to the football; and he's everywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Thanks for the info. I have to be honest, I will be a bit unimpressed if we take a backer in the 2nd, maybe even the 3rd. LB is one of those positions where unless they are 1st round caliber, it's almost impossible for them to be the BPA until maybe the 4th round, but that is just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, ballpeen said: Thanks for the info. I have to be honest, I will be a bit unimpressed if we take a backer in the 2nd, maybe even the 3rd. LB is one of those positions where unless they are 1st round caliber, it's almost impossible for them to be the BPA until maybe the 4th round, but that is just my opinion. My guess is the Browns will take the best WR or LT.. If either guy they like isn't there... Then hell who knows BPA?.. I like that we have Pocic... it gives us time on Nick Harris... I would be looking for Wills replacement and groom Wills for RT or RG.. Or He's just a career backup... either way,,, There needs to be improvement there on the bigs... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Not sure I understand your comment on giving us time on Nick Harris? I think we kept Pocic because Pocic is better. I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted a true center in the mid/late rounds and move on from Harris. You might be right on a LT prospect. Wills has been up and down at the LT position. A move to the right might be in order at some point as Conklin is getting older. A LT might be the pick if a player is there who we think has promise. Even if Wills plays well, it gives us options as we move forward. Having too many good players really isn't a problem. You can find somewhere to play them or trade them. Then you can trade for need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 19 Author Report Share Posted March 19 (edited) 12 hours ago, ballpeen said: Thanks for the info. I have to be honest, I will be a bit unimpressed if we take a backer in the 2nd, maybe even the 3rd. LB is one of those positions where unless they are 1st round caliber, it's almost impossible for them to be the BPA until maybe the 4th round, but that is just my opinion. Thanks for the feedback. I'm not saying we're going ILB in round 2 or round 3. I'm showing you the guys at this position projected for those rounds according to 1 Draft Mag and then I found some highlights of them to share. It was you that mentioned you felt free agency is to address needs (in this thread and another) which I agree with and so did the FO this year. That frees up the opportunity to pursue BPA in the draft, which may or may not be a LB. BPA in round 2 or 3 could even be a DT, which would pair up with a need. Anyway, I did the same thing for prospects at the WR position projecting in rounds 2 and 3. Later this morning, I'll try to show Offensive Tackles projecting to where we start the draft at #42 overall to our next near the end of round 3. Having said that, it's very highly unlikely that BECAUSE the Cleveland Browns need a huge upgrade at Left Tackle - that the next Joe Thomas slides all the way to #42 overall. If he did, that would have to mean that only this FO (who drafted the guy we need to upgrade) suddenly possesses this unique ability that everyone else before us doesn't have. Then again, whoever upgrades Left Tackle - doesn't have to be a HOF caliber player to do so. I'd take another guy like Tony (T-Bone) Jones in a millisecond (although he was undrafted and it took some patience before reliability unfolded). I'm guessing anyone we would draft at that position shy of a trade-up for Paris Johnson Jr, will require a little bit of patience. The position group Offensive Tackle as a whole according to Lindy's Draft Guide graded out as a C. I'll look up which LTs in the Draft Mag are projecting for round 2 or 3 consideration. Edited March 19 by Flugel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Can I start with...🤓 Dear 🏈 gods, Where's the Beefy MLB line start ? 1. If somehow LB Trenton Simpson gets to Round 2? Simpson may become Berry's target 🎯 2. Jack Campbell.. The only thing Berry might hold against Jack Campbell? Age 23 start of rookie season. Simpson would be age 22 Drew Sanders, Noah Sewell, To'o To'o & Dalyan Henley would at least come into camps at 230lbs or above.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 19 Author Report Share Posted March 19 30 minutes ago, gumby73 said: Can I start with...🤓 Dear 🏈 gods, Where's the Beefy MLB line start ? 1. If somehow LB Trenton Simpson gets to Round 2? Simpson may become Berry's target 🎯 2. Jack Campbell.. The only thing Berry might hold against Jack Campbell? Age 23 start of rookie season. Simpson would be age 22 Drew Sanders, Noah Sewell, To'o To'o & Dalyan Henley would at least come into camps at 230lbs or above.. Captain Jack Campbell showed some great agility at the combine. I know our FO wants the smaller framed LBs; which will make a lot more sense with the IDL Meat Market they just invested in. If you get a chance, watch that Henley video. I like the Bama guy too but that last last name has gotta get shortened because that's a hot mess. I'll call him Toto for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 3 hours ago, ballpeen said: Not sure I understand your comment on giving us time on Nick Harris? I think we kept Pocic because Pocic is better. I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted a true center in the mid/late rounds and move on from Harris. Yeah, Harris is in the final season of his rookie four year contract. It should be obvious that the Browns have moved on from the idea of Harris being their starting center, unless injuries forced it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 5 minutes ago, Flugel said: Captain Jack Campbell showed some great agility at the combine. I know our FO wants the smaller framed LBs; which will make a lot more sense with the IDL Meat Market they just invested in. If you get a chance, watch that Henley video. I like the Bama guy too but that last last name has gotta get shortened because that's a hot mess. I'll call him Toto for now. If the 245lb guy has shown the ability to move quickly in short areas, change of direction, etc, I would hope the Browns would consider taking him. Would be nice to have a bigger guy in the LB squad, especially if he can still move like a smaller guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 19 Author Report Share Posted March 19 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: If the 245lb guy has shown the ability to move quickly in short areas, change of direction, etc, I would hope the Browns would consider taking him. Would be nice to have a bigger guy in the LB squad, especially if he can still move like a smaller guy. I've always like them too. I'm old school so I showed Jack Campbell 1st. He lit it up in the 3 cone drill and another agility assessment. It's also nice to get those long levers in a hook zone defending the pass. All that said, Mike Johnson was one of my favorite ILBs at 6'0" 220 lbs or so. Here's a cut and paste of some Indy Combine results with more updated 40 times than Lindy's had to go with (pretty close though in many instances). 2023 NFL combine results, measurements for LBs: 40-yard dash, height, weight, top performers, more The position has the draft's best pass-rusher and a couple others potential first-round picks By Garrett Podell Mar 2, 2023 at 9:36 pm ET•4 min read Getty Images The 2023 NFL Scouting Combine kicked off as the linebackers, along with defensive linemen, opened the action on the first day of workouts. The linebacker position has arguably the best pass-rusher coming out of college (Alabama's Will Anderson Jr.) since at least 2022 NFL Defensive Player of the Year Nick Bosa (second-overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft) and 2020 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year Chase Youg. There's also a couple of other projected first-round picks in Arkansas' Drew Sanders and Clemson's Trenton Simpson. Outside of this trio, there could be a couple others who could generate some first-round or second-round buzz after today's combine showing. Below are all the official measurements for the linebackers at the combine, in alphabetical order. LB measurements PLAYER HEIGHT WEIGHT HAND SIZE ARM LENGTH 40-YARD DASH Will Anderson Jr. (Alabama) 6' 3 1/2'' 253 9 7/8'' 33 7/8'' 4.60 Yasir Abdullah (Louisville) 6'1 237 9 1/4" 32 3/8" 4.47 Jeremy Banks (Tennessee) 6'1 232 9 1/2" 32 4.53 Micah Baskerville (LSU) 6'0 1/2" 221 9 5/8" 31 1/4" Jack Campbell (Iowa) 6'5 249 10 1/4" 10 1/4" 4.65 Andre Carter II (Army) 6'6 1/2" 256 9 3/8" 9 3/8" SirVocea Dennis (Pittsburgh) 6'0 1/2" 226 10 5/8" 32 7/8" Jalen Graham (Purdue) 6'2 220 9 7/8" 33" 4.64 Derick Hall (Auburn) 6'3 254 10" 34 1/2" 4.55 Daiyan Henley (Washington State) 6'2 225 9 1/2" 33" 4.54 Nick Herbig (Wisconsin) 6'2 240 9 1/4" 31 1/4" 4.65 Shaka Heyward (Duke) 6'3 235 9 1/2" 34" 4.53 DJ Johnson (Oregon) 6'4 260 9" 33 1/4" 4.49 Andre Jones Jr. (Louisiana) 6'4 1/2" 248 10" 34 1/4" Cam Jones (Indiana) 6'1 226 9 1/2" 31 1/4" 4.69 Eku Leota (Auburn) 6'3 244 9 1/2" 33 1/2" Ochaun Mathis (Nebraska) 6'5 250 10 3/4" 35 1/4" 4.74 Ventrell Miller (Florida) 6' 232 9 1/8" 32 1/2" Isaiah Moore (N.C. State) 6'2 233 9 1/8" 31 3/4" BJ Ojulari (LSU) 6'2 248 10 1/2" 34 1/4" Anfernee Orji (Vanderbilt) 6'1 230 10 1/4" 32" 4.53 DeMarvion Overshown (Texas) 6'3 229 9 1/2" 32 1/4" 4.56 Ivan Pace Jr. (Cincinnati) 5'10 1/2" 231 9 1/2" 30 1/4" Owen Pappoe (Auburn) 6' 225 9 1/8" 31 3/4" 4.39 Lonnie Phelps (Kansas) 6'2 244 9 1/4" 9 1/4" 4.55 Drew Sanders (Arkansas) 6'4 235 9 3/4" 32 1/8" Noah Sewell (Oregon) 6'1 1/2" 246 10" 31 5/8" 4.64 Trenton Simpson (Clemson) 6'2 235 10 1/4" 32 3/8" 4.43 Noah Taylor (North Carolina) 6'4 238 8 5/8" 32 5/8" Charlie Thomas (Georgia Tech) 6'3 216 8 1/2" 31 1/2" 4.52 Henry To'oTo'o (Alabama) 6'1 227 10 1/4" 32 3/4" 4.62 Tyrus Wheat (Mississippi State) 6'2 263 9" 32 7/8" 4.65 Dorian Williams (Tulane) 6'1 228 10 1/4" 33 3/4" 4.49 Dee Winters (TCU) 5'11 227 8 5/8" 31 5/8" 4.49 Linebacker winners Alabama LB Will Anderson Jr: Surprise, the nation's leader in sacks (34.5), tackles for loss (58.5), quarterback hits (71), and quarterback pressures (207) from 2020-2022 had a strong day at the combine. All he did was measure up to Chargers linebacker Khalil Mack, the 2016 NFL Defensive Player of the Year, seven-time Pro Bowl selection, and Hall of Fame 2010's All-Decade Team member. Mack went fifth overall in the 2014 Draft, and like him, Anderson will also be a top-five selection. Iowa LB Jack Campbell: The 2022 Dick Butkus Award Winner as the nation's best linebacker put plenty on tape playing Big Ten football. However, his combine solidified his status as no lower than a likely second-round pick and as a fringe first-round pick. Campbell measured at 6-foot-5, 249 pounds and then he showed incredible explosiveness with a 37.5" vertical jump and 10'8" broad jump. Not bad at all. Army LB Andre Carter II: Only Anderson Jr. (17.5) had more sacks than Carter II's (15.5) in 2021, and Carter measured up nicely alongside Anderson on Thursday. Coming in at 6-foot-6 1/2 at 256 pounds, the Army linebacker displayed a decent amount of athleticism at for his size clocking a 30" vertical leap and a 9'1" broad jump. Carter II is attempting to become the first service academy player to be taken in the first three rounds in the Common Draft Era (since 1967). Nothing he did today hurt his cause. Washington State LB Daiyan Henley: The former Nevada wide receiver came in at 6-foot-2, 225 pounds -- decent size for the position considering linebackers are essentially like safeties in terms of some of their responsibilities in coverage in 2022. His unofficial 4.54 40-yard dash highlighted an ability to move fluidly. His stock continues to climb amid the possibility that he's just scratching the surface at the position. Edited March 19 by Flugel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Man, Campbell has some big hands on some short-ass arms! 😏 I'm intrigued with him at #42 (my lucky number, and my first football number) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 19 Author Report Share Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said: Man, Campbell has some big hands on some short-ass arms! 😏 😆 Yeah, I just noticed their cut and paste error. Thanks for pointing it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 4 hours ago, ballpeen said: Not sure I understand your comment on giving us time on Nick Harris? I think we kept Pocic because Pocic is better. I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted a true center in the mid/late rounds and move on from Harris. You might be right on a LT prospect. Wills has been up and down at the LT position. A move to the right might be in order at some point as Conklin is getting older. A LT might be the pick if a player is there who we think has promise. Even if Wills plays well, it gives us options as we move forward. Having too many good players really isn't a problem. You can find somewhere to play them or trade them. Then you can trade for need. Well its obvious The Browns/Andrew Berry likes him... It's "AB's" pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 19 Author Report Share Posted March 19 Here's more assessments/results for Campbell Production Score 74 2023 Combine LB Rank: 5th Athleticism Score *est 89 2023 Combine LB Rank: 1st Total Score 82 2023 Combine LB Rank: 3rd Combine Results u-unofficial 40-Yard Dash 4.65 Seconds 10-Yard Split 1.59 Seconds Vertical Jump 37.5’’ Broad Jump 10’ 8’’ 3-Cone Drill 6.74 Seconds 20-Yd Shuttle 4.24 Seconds Bench Press -- Player Bio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, Flugel said: Here's more assessments/results for Campbell Production Score 74 2023 Combine LB Rank: 5th Athleticism Score *est 89 2023 Combine LB Rank: 1st Total Score 82 2023 Combine LB Rank: 3rd Combine Results u-unofficial 40-Yard Dash 4.65 Seconds 10-Yard Split 1.59 Seconds Vertical Jump 37.5’’ Broad Jump 10’ 8’’ 3-Cone Drill 6.74** Seconds 20-Yd Shuttle 4.24** Seconds Captain Jack's explosion numbers must be freakish level considering he weighted in at 249lbs .. 👀 Arkansas' LB Drew Sanders.. played Edge at Bama.. He showed in combine drills he's still got some bend coming off a corner.. Drew Sanders (Arkansas) 6'4 235 9 3/4" 32 1/8" maybe a little Clay Matthews in this kid's tape 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 4 hours ago, Flugel said: DJ Johnson (Oregon) 6'4 260 9" 33 1/4" 4.49/40 umm...gimme this guy please. Big guy. Runs fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Combine.. RAS... Age... PFF Grade.. click on box to increase size Linebackers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 19 Author Report Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Orion said: umm...gimme this guy please. Big guy. Runs fast. This was an ILB thread but I'll happy to look him up for you (especially since it listed 40 times for all LBs). Spent one year at Miami before transferring and redshirting and played DE in his first season with the Ducks. Converted to TE for 2020, rotated between positions in 2021, returned to defensive side of the ball in 2022. He's listed as the 11th ranked OLB by Lindy's Mag with a grade with a 6.7. They have him with a 4th round projection listed at 6'4" 270 lbs. Prior to the Indy Combines his best 40 time was a 4.59, which he bettered to 4.49 at a body weight of 260 pounds. All that written may not match your enthusiasm; but the very next page honors him as their Sleeper to watch. They basically say that if he was allowed to stay at his natural position of DE he would be a lot more technically polished. It adds his outstanding athletic traits suggest he could outperform his draft slot. That wouldn't suck to draft a guy that outperforms his draft slot would it? Now let's get you some stuff you can see and hear. Back in the day, Casey Kasem would have said from Oregon to Orion here's a wonderful football tribute from DJ Johnson to a Cleveland Browns fan that really knows what's he talking about. You might want to mute the volume though... NOW, this guy is very enthusiastic about OLB/DE DJ Johnson Want more? Here's more... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, Flugel said: DE in his first season with the Ducks. Converted to TE for 2020, rotated between positions in 2021, returned to defensive side of the ball in 2022 Great. He can play TE too. Can he run block? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 On 3/19/2023 at 11:32 AM, Flugel said: Here's more assessments/results for Campbell Jack Campbell reminds me very much of Zaven Collins, out of Tulsa, drafted by Arizona in the first round in 2021. Very, very similar. Collins has really been productive in the NFL with Arizona - probably a good look at how good Campbell can be. Collins was 6'4", 260 lbs at the combine. 122" broad jump, and a 35" vertical jump. Ran 4.67 in the forty. Campbell....6'5", 249 lbs, ..........................128" Broad jump, ........... 37" vertical. 4.65 in the forty. for fun, I will say that Jack Lambert was 6'4", 223 I believe was his weight in college. Watched him a lot in college. He was...eh....viciously dominant. lol. Nice guy though. Away from football. Drew Sanders could be my Jack Lambert kind of pick if I was into doing a mock draft, which ...nah. Don't care. I think my linebacker favorites in this draft would be Sanders and Campbell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 22 Author Report Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, calfoxwc said: Jack Campbell reminds me very much of Zaven Collins, out of Tulsa, drafted by Arizona in the first round in 2021. Very, very similar. Collins has really been productive in the NFL with Arizona - probably a good look at how good Campbell can be. Collins was 6'4", 260 lbs at the combine. 122" broad jump, and a 35" vertical jump. Ran 4.67 in the forty. Campbell....6'5", 249 lbs, ..........................128" Broad jump, ........... 37" vertical. 4.65 in the forty. for fun, I will say that Jack Lambert was 6'4", 223 I believe was his weight in college. Watched him a lot in college. He was...eh....viciously dominant. lol. Nice guy though. Away from football. Drew Sanders could be my Jack Lambert kind of pick if I was into doing a mock draft, which ...nah. Don't care. I think my linebacker favorites in this draft would be Sanders and Campbell. I like Jack a lot. I think he also had the best 3 cone time. Tell you what though, scroll up and look at the Daiyan Henley highlights I shared in this thread, Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Flugel said: I like Jack a lot. I think he also had the best 3 cone time. Tell you what though, scroll up and look at the Daiyan Henley highlights I shared in this thread, Enjoy! Henley? Watching his highlights says "Owusu-Koramoah" to me. The highlights of both are eerily similar to a huge degree. Incredible intuitiveness. athleticism, explosion, strength, both excellent tacklers, etc etc. I'm old school, an athletic big buttkicker has always seemed like my preference. Having said that, lol, Dick Butkus was only 6'3", 245 lbs. The real key is finding those players who have the ability, have been productive, who LOVE THE GAME AGGRESSIVELY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Oven Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 Anthony Walker is coming back, signs for a year with the Browns. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 On 3/22/2023 at 7:56 PM, Dutch Oven said: Anthony Walker is coming back, signs for a year with the Browns. And that takes the final major need off of the critical list. (saw that at work yesterday) So, on paper, Berry has hit every critical need, with one week left in March. DT, DE, MLB, S, WR, #2TE, ST gunner. These guys have been in the league and can supposedly plug themselves right in and play. But just because it's off the critical list doesn't mean it doesn't need attention. Certainly MLB needs a future starter. And all of those other positions are fair game if the BPA plays one of those spots. But we don't go into the draft in critical condition anywhere. Of course we stepped back from pick 42 to 74 in trading for our new 3rd year slot type WR...but it addresses a need. (blow my own horn) I'd been saying that this is an important year for keeping management jobs. We had a lot of holes to fill and picks 42 & 98 (and later) to fill them all. Second and third day draft picks were not going to play at a high enough level for management to keep their jobs. They were going to HAVE TO use the FA tool. And use it they have. Now everyone can calmly see what the middle of the draft leaves on the table for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted Saturday at 12:22 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 12:22 PM On 3/23/2023 at 9:23 PM, Orion said: And that takes the final major need off of the critical list. (saw that at work yesterday) So, on paper, Berry has hit every critical need, with one week left in March. DT, DE, MLB, S, WR, #2TE, ST gunner. These guys have been in the league and can supposedly plug themselves right in and play. But just because it's off the critical list doesn't mean it doesn't need attention. Certainly MLB needs a future starter. And all of those other positions are fair game if the BPA plays one of those spots. But we don't go into the draft in critical condition anywhere. Of course we stepped back from pick 42 to 74 in trading for our new 3rd year slot type WR...but it addresses a need. (blow my own horn) I'd been saying that this is an important year for keeping management jobs. We had a lot of holes to fill and picks 42 & 98 (and later) to fill them all. Second and third day draft picks were not going to play at a high enough level for management to keep their jobs. They were going to HAVE TO use the FA tool. And use it they have. Now everyone can calmly see what the middle of the draft leaves on the table for them. I agree. Jobs are on the line. I'd bet dollars to donuts Haslam has said as much behind closed doors. I think that was a reason we have looked for vet players. Now with needs more or less addressed, as you said, we can enter the draft, be it at 74 with clear heads and just look for the best mid round players on the board and not be driven by trying to fill holes. That is when you miss on those mid round guys who pan out. Lucky for us, many feel a hole at backer still exists, and the mid rounds is an ideal spot to find backers and a few other positions that aren't the sexy picks like QB and receiver. Nobody gets very excited if the team selects a LB or guard in the first round. Take one in the 3rd-4th round and it looks pretty good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted Saturday at 01:51 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 01:51 PM I’d still like a Mike with one of our early picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted Saturday at 02:43 PM Report Share Posted Saturday at 02:43 PM 17 minutes ago, SdBacker80 said: I’d still like a Mike with one of our early picks. Berry would need to raise his drafting age limits..The only Backer that fits it, is Ivan Pace from Natty.. Actually.. To'o To'o, Dorian Williams, Dalyan Henley,Owen Pappoe & Noah Sewell all have a better age scores than Jack Campbell, if he's still keeping score .. Berry needs to stick to keeping his GM job, over age limits..imho.. Schwartz has to see this ILB group as a hot mess past Anthony Walker, just like last season.. At least, ST ace Matthew Adams looks & plays like a LB'er.. does he see any ILB/Mike reps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted Sunday at 02:40 PM Author Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:40 PM 23 hours ago, gumby73 said: Berry would need to raise his drafting age limits..The only Backer that fits it, is Ivan Pace from Natty.. Actually.. To'o To'o, Dorian Williams, Dalyan Henley,Owen Pappoe & Noah Sewell all have a better age scores than Jack Campbell, if he's still keeping score .. Berry needs to stick to keeping his GM job, over age limits..imho.. Schwartz has to see this ILB group as a hot mess past Anthony Walker, just like last season.. At least, ST ace Matthew Adams looks & plays like a LB'er.. does he see any ILB/Mike reps? You're right - that guy certainly looks like a LBer. Would love it if we had a chance to draft Henley. If you get a chance watch that video of Henley I shared earlier in the thread. From the very first play, count how many turnovers he forced and/or recovered/intercepted. He has the same body type and frame as Mike Johnson had with a little better agility. Similar instincts, vision and explosiveness. Mike Johnson was an ILB when we had a 3 man front and a MLB when we had a 4 man front (excelled at both). I really believe this guy can be an ideal ILB for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted Sunday at 03:53 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 03:53 PM Fields should be LB4 over Phillips -- We know who Jacob is, and it's not great. JOK/Walker to start, Taki first backup at both spots, and Fields has performed better than JP in his opportunities to date. Perhaps they'll go with only 4 LB's, but given last season's injuries I'd find that hard to believe. I'm not sure we can do better than JP at LB5 without using one of those day2 picks. Perhaps a day3 flier and go with the rookie both looking to the future and cap savings over JP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SdBacker80 Posted Sunday at 04:05 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 04:05 PM I’d be surprised if Taki Walker and Phillips are on the roster in 2024. And the trio can’t be counted on to stay healthy in 2023. A third round developmental guy isn’t really a luxury and probably a necessity. We may find someone here that can plug and play well Day 1 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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