The National Weather Service tells the truth - it contradicts the mmgw lie.

[MLD Woody]

20 minutes ago, calfoxwc said:

well, I guess it's no surprise you pretend to believe your bs - you pretend to believe that the murder and torture of born and unborn children is fine, the sexual abuse and slavery of young children is fine, illegal immigration by rapists murders, future terrorists from china, etc etc etc is fine, leftwing political persecutions are fine, a fake 67 "genders" is fine.

   So, what are you really trying to let us know?

that you're a transbird?

ah, silly me, I thought I invented that, too.

Squawk on if you must, korimako woodpecker:

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The World's First Transgender Bird? - Philadelphia Magazine

The Maori name for the bird is "korimako," though the researchers are calling this one a "butch bellbird.". It's the first species that researchers have ever discovered showing a ...

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You need to calm down. Maybe anger management?

Being this angry and fearful about the world 24/7 can't be good for your already old heart. 

[calfoxwc]

Your nonsense slurs are making you look like a loser more and more.

You seem to be doubling down on creating self-serving narratives that are so false, that you can refute them.

meanwhile, we keep asking, and you keep squawking and hiding:

NAME ONE MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING CRISIS THAT EVER CAME TRUE.

I'm hardly the first one to ask it, korimako woodpecker.

[Vambo]

 

[cccjwh]

Basic Information about Coral Reefs | US EPA

Coral reefs are among the most biologically diverse and valuable ecosystems on Earth. An estimated 25 percent of all marine life, including over 4,000 species of fish, are dependent on coral reefs at some point in their life cycle. An estimated 1 billion people worldwide benefit from the many ecosystem services coral reefs provide including food, coastal protection, and income from tourism and fisheries.

Scientist on dying coral: ‘If this doesn’t wake people up, I don’t know what will’ (local10.com)

MONROE COUNTY, Fla. – South Florida’s coral reefs continue to suffer the effects of this unprecedented summer heat wave that shows no end in sight.

It’s especially catastrophic because since the 1980s, the state’s barrier reef, the third largest in the world, has already lost more than 90% of its coral cover. Now the race is on to save what precious corals we have left.

About a mile off the coast of Upper Matecumbe Key, Local 10 News’ Louis Aguirre set off with a team of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientists to survey a treasured South Florida reef: Cheeca Rocks, which for weeks has been sun-scorched by Earth’s hottest July ever recorded.

Ian Enochs leads the coral program at the NOAA lab in Miami.

“We’re seeing 100% bleaching,” he said. “That’s crazy. It’s absolutely crazy.”

Cheeca Rocks is an important NOAA climate monitoring site, heavily documented to have some of the most resilient and oldest corals in the sea.

“If this doesn’t wake people up, I don’t know what will,” Enochs said.

Even before diving in, they could see the devastation from the surface.

“It’s pretty intense,” said Enochs.

Some of these corals are over a hundred years old and may be lost forever.

“This is so depressing,” said Aguirre.

The Middle Keys are seeing the worst of it.

Ocean surface temperatures there are bathtub hot, topping 90 degrees for three straight weeks, causing corals to lose their symbiotic algae that feed them and give them color. So they pale, bleach and slowly starve to death.

[Westside Steve]

Since it's pretty obvious that human beings are destroying the planet one very simple solution would be: less human beings. Actually less living creatures across the board. Instead of decriminalizing so many offenses as they've been doing in the large Blue cities we should do the opposite and make the death penalty apply to every one of those cases. We could even include traffic violations and expand vagrancy laws to anyone who earns less than x amount of dollars per year. Sounds harsh but we save the planet.

WSS

[calfoxwc]

2 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Since it's pretty obvious that human beings are destroying the planet one very simple solution would be: less human beings. Actually less living creatures across the board. Instead of decriminalizing so many offenses as they've been doing in the large Blue cities we should do the opposite and make the death penalty apply to every one of those cases. We could even include traffic violations and expand vagrancy laws to anyone who earns less than x amount of dollars per year. Sounds harsh but we save the planet.

WSS

Now you've done it. The lefties will use mmgw to justify unlimited torture and murder of born and unborn children.....

[MLD Woody]

2 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Since it's pretty obvious that human beings are destroying the planet one very simple solution would be: less human beings. Actually less living creatures across the board. Instead of decriminalizing so many offenses as they've been doing in the large Blue cities we should do the opposite and make the death penalty apply to every one of those cases. We could even include traffic violations and expand vagrancy laws to anyone who earns less than x amount of dollars per year. Sounds harsh but we save the planet.

WSS

Why stop there? Let's actively remove those that are the least beneficial and productive

- Musicians - we have AI that can make music now. No need for musicians or singers. Can be automated

- Old folks - they can't do as much manual labor and they would need training on the newest tech. Don't seem to serve much purpose

 

[calfoxwc]

6 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

Why stop there? Let's actively remove those that are the least beneficial and productive

- Musicians - we have AI that can make music now. No need for musicians or singers. Can be automated

- Old folks - they can't do as much manual labor and they would need training on the newest tech. Don't seem to serve much purpose

 

Except Steve was being sarcastic......

[cccjwh]

3 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Since it's pretty obvious that human beings are destroying the planet one very simple solution would be: less human beings. Actually less living creatures across the board. Instead of decriminalizing so many offenses as they've been doing in the large Blue cities we should do the opposite and make the death penalty apply to every one of those cases. We could even include traffic violations and expand vagrancy laws to anyone who earns less than x amount of dollars per year. Sounds harsh but we save the planet.

WSS

 

I think the food scarcity will take care of the too many people problem. That and wars fought over what is left. 

[Westside Steve]

1 hour ago, MLD Woody said:

Why stop there? Let's actively remove those that are the least beneficial and productive

- Musicians - we have AI that can make music now. No need for musicians or singers. Can be automated

- Old folks - they can't do as much manual labor and they would need training on the newest tech. Don't seem to serve much purpose

 

Good point with old people. 65 and up are sucking up Social Security which under the Woody regime will be needed to support lazy bastards and illegal immigrants. Have to disagree about musicians because all those lazy ass motherfuckers laying around the government provided housing are going to want to watch movies and listen to rap music. Or country music to be fair. But they can't synthesize Jay Z or Ted Nugent or Jason Aldean. Yet.

How about engineers who provide very little useful product? We had elevators doors add toilet seats that worked 100 years ago.

WSS 

😀

[Westside Steve]

39 minutes ago, cccjwh said:

 

I think the food scarcity will take care of the too many people problem. That and wars fought over what is left. 

Good point.

WSS

[Jax]

7 hours ago, cccjwh said:

Basic Information about Coral Reefs | US EPA

Coral reefs are among the most biologically diverse and valuable ecosystems on Earth. An estimated 25 percent of all marine life, including over 4,000 species of fish, are dependent on coral reefs at some point in their life cycle. An estimated 1 billion people worldwide benefit from the many ecosystem services coral reefs provide including food, coastal protection, and income from tourism and fisheries.

Scientist on dying coral: ‘If this doesn’t wake people up, I don’t know what will’ (local10.com)

MONROE COUNTY, Fla. – South Florida’s coral reefs continue to suffer the effects of this unprecedented summer heat wave that shows no end in sight.

It’s especially catastrophic because since the 1980s, the state’s barrier reef, the third largest in the world, has already lost more than 90% of its coral cover. Now the race is on to save what precious corals we have left.

About a mile off the coast of Upper Matecumbe Key, Local 10 News’ Louis Aguirre set off with a team of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientists to survey a treasured South Florida reef: Cheeca Rocks, which for weeks has been sun-scorched by Earth’s hottest July ever recorded.

Ian Enochs leads the coral program at the NOAA lab in Miami.

“We’re seeing 100% bleaching,” he said. “That’s crazy. It’s absolutely crazy.”

Cheeca Rocks is an important NOAA climate monitoring site, heavily documented to have some of the most resilient and oldest corals in the sea.

“If this doesn’t wake people up, I don’t know what will,” Enochs said.

Even before diving in, they could see the devastation from the surface.

“It’s pretty intense,” said Enochs.

Some of these corals are over a hundred years old and may be lost forever.

“This is so depressing,” said Aguirre.

The Middle Keys are seeing the worst of it.

Ocean surface temperatures there are bathtub hot, topping 90 degrees for three straight weeks, causing corals to lose their symbiotic algae that feed them and give them color. So they pale, bleach and slowly starve to death.

How does this tie into man made climate change, global warming, ice age apocalypse?

 

https://www.whoi.edu/know-your-ocean/did-you-know/why-do-corals-bleach/

Bleaching can happen when the water gets too warm. Or when it becomes polluted. Or even when corals are exposed to too much sunlight. Under warm temperatures, even normal levels of sunlight can cause bleaching. Or, if something changes in the environment to expose a coral to more light than before, it can also bleach.

Corals aren’t dead when they bleach. They’ve simply lost their color. But when the zooxanthellae leave, they take with them the coral’s main source of food. Corals can snag tiny bits of food from the water with their tentacles. But most corals cannot survive just on feeding.

Sometimes zooxanthellae will return to their coral hosts. When this happens, corals can become healthy and begin to grow again. But once they have bleached, corals need time to fully recover.

Coral bleaching is a common problem and one that scientists are working to better understand. They hope to find ways to help corals recover from bleaching events. And they’re working to make corals more resistant to the stressors that cause bleaching. This would protect the reefs that are home to so much marine life.

[MLD Woody]

4 hours ago, calfoxwc said:

Except Steve was being sarcastic......

No shit 

[MLD Woody]

3 hours ago, Westside Steve said:

Good point with old people. 65 and up are sucking up Social Security which under the Woody regime will be needed to support lazy bastards and illegal immigrants. Have to disagree about musicians because all those lazy ass motherfuckers laying around the government provided housing are going to want to watch movies and listen to rap music. Or country music to be fair. But they can't synthesize Jay Z or Ted Nugent or Jason Aldean. Yet.

How about engineers who provide very little useful product? We had elevators doors add toilet seats that worked 100 years ago.

WSS 

😀

Yes but now toilets are heated and connected to WiFi

 

You're welcome 

[cccjwh]

1 hour ago, Jax said:

How does this tie into man made climate change, global warming, ice age apocalypse?

 

https://www.whoi.edu/know-your-ocean/did-you-know/why-do-corals-bleach/

Bleaching can happen when the water gets too warm. Or when it becomes polluted. Or even when corals are exposed to too much sunlight. Under warm temperatures, even normal levels of sunlight can cause bleaching. Or, if something changes in the environment to expose a coral to more light than before, it can also bleach.

Corals aren’t dead when they bleach. They’ve simply lost their color. But when the zooxanthellae leave, they take with them the coral’s main source of food. Corals can snag tiny bits of food from the water with their tentacles. But most corals cannot survive just on feeding.

Sometimes zooxanthellae will return to their coral hosts. When this happens, corals can become healthy and begin to grow again. But once they have bleached, corals need time to fully recover.

Coral bleaching is a common problem and one that scientists are working to better understand. They hope to find ways to help corals recover from bleaching events. And they’re working to make corals more resistant to the stressors that cause bleaching. This would protect the reefs that are home to so much marine life.

How do warmer oceans tie to climate change? You mean other than directly?

This week, water temperature recorded at a buoy south of Miami recorded the water temperature at more than 11 degrees hotter than is safe for people to swim in, at 101.1 degrees on Monday evening.  - July 28 ,2023

Are Florida oceans too hot to swim in? What to know before you go (palmbeachpost.com)

 

[DieHardBrownsFan1]

42 minutes ago, cccjwh said:

How do warmer oceans tie to climate change? You mean other than directly?

[cccjwh]

22 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said:

Cult member cannot refute claim backed up by evidence. How did they respond?

a. Meme

b. Ad hominem attack

c. Link to rightwing nutjob "source"

d. #whataboutism

e. combination of a, b, c, or d

[Jax]

Temps always get hotter and colder, you posted nothing that ties it to any type of man made role.

Furthermore, you only assume the coral bleached because of warmer weather but as I posted, there are many different reasons why it happens.

Even if it's higher temps, there's still no proof it's indicative of the Earth dying because of global warming due to man. Even in my link it states scientists are still researching why these things happen, yet you and climate radicals claim you have the answer.

 

[cccjwh]

53 minutes ago, Jax said:

Temps always get hotter and colder, you posted nothing that ties it to any type of man made role.

Furthermore, you only assume the coral bleached because of warmer weather but as I posted, there are many different reasons why it happens.

Even if it's higher temps, there's still no proof it's indicative of the Earth dying because of global warming due to man. Even in my link it states scientists are still researching why these things happen, yet you and climate radicals claim you have the answer.

 

 

It's scientific consensus on climate change. Only the nut jobs are still in denial. You now because they love the oil companies from some reason. Pretty simple with coral. Warmer water causes their food to disappear and they starve to death.

You article references the following as their source. https://www.barrierreef.org/the-reef/threats/coral-bleaching

"Rising ocean temperatures caused by climate change is the primary cause of coral bleaching."

So, thanks for re-enforcing my point. 

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Statement on Climate Change from 18 Scientific Associations

"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver." (2009)²

https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.1103618

 

The scientific consensus is clearly expressed in the reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Created in 1988 by the World Meteorological Organization and the United Nations Environmental Programme, IPCC's purpose is to evaluate the state of climate science as a basis for informed policy action, primarily on the basis of peer-reviewed and published scientific literature (3). In its most recent assessment, IPCC states unequivocally that the consensus of scientific opinion is that Earth's climate is being affected by human activities: “Human activities … are modifying the concentration of atmospheric constituents … that absorb or scatter radiant energy. … [M]ost of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations” [p. 21 in (4)].

Each reference is a peer reviewed study. thanks again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jax]

 

[Canton Dawg]

20 minutes ago, Jax said:

 

I’m sure some of our resident Biden Nut Swingers will say that these guys are funded by the big oil companies.

[Jax]

 

[Jax]

No doubt, let's not allow facts to get in the way of our agendas and self stupidity.

[Canton Dawg]

[MLD Woody]

I swear you all must have watched the same right wing clip about the medieval warning period recently because it's now your go to

 

https://www.geol.umd.edu/sgc/elevator/elevator16.html

While the Medieval Warm Period did seem to present warmer temperatures, in truth, this period of time actually was one in which some areas of land were hotter, and some much cooler. This period was victim to environmental changes that increased the temperature at the time. For example, ocean current patterns were a cause of the abnormal spike in temperature, with ocean currents circulating warmer temperatures closer to the shore. When looking at these environmental effects, it goes to show that the period of warmth that occurred during the Medieval Warm Period does not have the same causes as the period of climate change that the Earth is experiencing now. Ocean temperatures have not been significantly impacting the overall warming of the Earth, and as such, cannot be counted as a large contributor to climate change. Since this period, temperatures across the globe have increased consistently, rather than only in some locations, which was the phenomenon seen during this time. The average warming of this period was on par with the changes seen in the early 1900's, but has since been surpassed with today's numbers, which encompass warming on a larger geographical area. Today's temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere are already hotter than the temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere during the Medieval Warm Period. Evidence of the natural mechanisms responsible for the Medieval Warming Period are not present today, so the same mechanisms cannot be blamed for today's rising temperatures. To conclude, the Medieval Warm Period was not warmer than what is occurring today, and today, environmental change is driven by humans.

 

 

[Jax]

Have you guys watched Dope Sick? Woody reminds me of big pharma.

 

[cccjwh]

We have reached the Youtube "science" part of the debate. Again scientific consensus is not on your side. But you keep going with your feelings.

 

[MLD Woody]

Oh lord, I'm "big pharma" now...

[Jax]

Yes, you take real facts and findings and twist them to fit your agenda.

I'm sure you weren't smart enough to make that connection. If you haven't watched dope sick then you'll be clueless.

[Jax]

You've been debunked by even youtube it's so easy.