gmp Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 The bottom line is this.... The Defense is AWFUL!!!!!!!... go with DA, go with BQ...It don't friggin matter....does anyone understand that....??? Every formidable team in the NFL has a outstanding defense,,,, This defense is complete swiss cheese....college caliber!!!! gonna be a long season...lay the poinst against this defense... ALL THE TIME......you'll make some serious dough!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 How can anyone watch the game today and say that the defense was awful? The defense held a MVP candidate to about 40 yards in the first half and played well until mid way through the 3rd quarter keeping the team in the game for a lot longer than we should've been based on the way the offense played. The only really bad play by the defense was the poor tackling on the long run by Peterson..but the game was pretty well decided by then. The defense is a whole lot better than the defense last year and it should definitely keep us in a lot of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 14 points off Quinn turnovers..... including that monster run by AD.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbndawg Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Bottom line............the Vikings are just a superior team. We can make excuses all day long and put the blame on certain players but the truth is the Browns are not good enough to beat the Vikings. The Browns have no playmakers on offense and the defense was just good enough to keep them in the game but not dominate. Browns are not at the level of the Vikings and that is just the plain truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgpound3 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Bottom line............the Vikings are just a superior team. We can make excuses all day long and put the blame on certain players but the truth is the Browns are not good enough to beat the Vikings. The Browns have no playmakers on offense and the defense was just good enough to keep them in the game but not dominate. Browns are not at the level of the Vikings and that is just the plain truth. I heartily agree with you. We are not good enough to beat the vikings. I wonder what would happened if Anderson had started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Banks Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 The Browns have no playmakers on offense and the defense was just good enough to keep them in the game but not dominate. Wait, we have Joe Thomas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbndawg Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 I heartily agree with you. We are not good enough to beat the vikings. I wonder what would happened if Anderson had started? The Browns would have lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 I wonder what would happened if Anderson had started? There are a lot of people wondering that tonight. But as bad a Quinn was today, he is our QB and we need to support him. At today's ticket prices, i hope he starts getting "it" real soon. BTW, Cribbs is one helluva return specialist, but his pass routes were unimpressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowe Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 The bottom line is this.... The Defense is AWFUL!!!!!!!... go with DA, go with BQ...It don't friggin matter....does anyone understand that....??? Every formidable team in the NFL has a outstanding defense,,,, This defense is complete swiss cheese....college caliber!!!! gonna be a long season...lay the poinst against this defense... ALL THE TIME......you'll make some serious dough!! 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Or maybe you didn't watch the first part of the game. The defense wasn't the problem today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Didn't SI say that Quinn did not have enough preseason snaps? How many times will BE run the wrong route? And how many dropped passes were there? The first 6 games are the toughest of the schedule, after that its all down hill, if we can get to 3-3 during the first 6 weeks, I will be happy. Im trying to stay positive, atleast we dont have Pryor at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemosley01 Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Bottom line............the Vikings are just a superior team. We can make excuses all day long and put the blame on certain players but the truth is the Browns are not good enough to beat the Vikings. The Browns have no playmakers on offense and the defense was just good enough to keep them in the game but not dominate. Browns are not at the level of the Vikings and that is just the plain truth. I agree, too. Thinking about it, they have both MORE and BETTER talent on both sides of the ball. They SHOULD beat us like a drum. It was (another) tale of two halves. If we made 'adjustments' they sure seemed like the wrong kind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 There are a lot of people wondering that tonight. But as bad a Quinn was today, he is our QB and we need to support him. At today's ticket prices, i hope he starts getting "it" real soon. BTW, Cribbs is one helluva return specialist, but his pass routes were unimpressive. I don't think the result would've been any better. Anderson has a problem holding the ball too long and he has zero movement. With the pressure that the Vikings were getting on Quinn, Anderson would've been sacked twice as many times as Quinn was today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler SChick Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 How can anyone watch the game today and say that the defense was awful? The defense held a MVP candidate to about 40 yards in the first half Then let him run for 140 yards in the second half. Plus 3 TD's. Good luck with that silver lining. Regards .... an'at . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 104 in the 4th quarter and 65 on one play. Theres more to the game than reading the stats after the fact. You occasionally have to actually watch the game to know what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeler SChick Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 104 in the 4th quarter and 65 on one play. Theres more to the game than reading the stats after the fact. You occasionally have to actually watch the game to know what was going on. I see your point. Cribbs is the only bright spot on that team. Still too early to give up on Quinn. He didn't have the day Delhomme had and he's still fairly inexperienced. You need to see him play a whole season out at the very least to get any idea of what kind of a QB he might become. One game doesn't do it. Regards .... an'at . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I heartily agree with you. We are not good enough to beat the vikings. I wonder what would happened if Anderson had started? I would say about 12 sacks and 3 interceptions but at least DA would take a few desperate shots down the field unlike his college days BQ seems to lack the balls to throw into coverage.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I don't think the result would've been any better. Anderson has a problem holding the ball too long and he has zero movement. With the pressure that the Vikings were getting on Quinn, Anderson would've been sacked twice as many times as Quinn was today. ???????? i'm not asking for Anderson. Brady had a tough game and he heeds to bounce back. Why are you acting so paranoid? We had a pretty good tailgate party today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 ???????? i'm not asking for Anderson. Brady had a tough game and he heeds to bounce back. Why are you acting so paranoid? We had a pretty good tailgate party today. I'm not acting paranoid...i was actually responding to the post above yours that asked the question if the result would've been better which I don't think it would've been. Quinn will have to bounce back and if he doesn't well then we will have another new QB next season. I'm sure the tailgate was awesome...I wish I had been there for the tailgate and the first half of the game, the way the 2nd half turned out, I'm kinda glad I didn't spend the money to fly back. I've got December 6th on the calendar and I think we will be playing a lot better than we saw today by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I've got December 6th on the calendar and I think we will be playing a lot better than we saw today by then. We're gonna cook something special for ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 I'll be looking forward to it. I just hope we all can see a better performance by the offense that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Maybe Mangini should be ashamed to have presented the cleveland browns fans with such a boring non tactical vanilla craptastic offense which gives no real options and that was easy to stack up against and stop with even a shitty defense let alone the vikings... This offensive gameplan is an unacceptable form of chudball and mangini and daboll need to rethink this crap or they may find cleveland a very cold place way before the ice settles across the lake... With this offensive simplicity it doesnt matter who the qb is there is not enough of anything available to fool/trick/get them to bite options available its all easy read straight forward stuff for baby sized gains and just way to 101 to work consistantly in the nfl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NebBrownsFan Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 14 points off Quinn turnovers..... including that monster run by AD.. Not quite....it was 10 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Or maybe you didn't watch the first part of the game. The defense wasn't the problem today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmp Posted September 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Yeah, I missed most of the game...however, I did see the highlights of Peterson throwing off defensive backs like they were wearing girlscout uniforms.. giving up 34 points at home and 3 tds to AP.... is whats, stupid dude!!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 and there ya have it folks... solid analysis from a fan that only saw highlights, and thus can offer thorough insight on the crappy defense we have..... get this D and offense, we may finally have a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Yeah, I missed most of the game...however, I did see the highlights of Peterson throwing off defensive backs like they were wearing girlscout uniforms.. giving up 34 points at home and 3 tds to AP.... is whats, stupid dude!!... Had you watched you would know that 2 tds were from 1 yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmp Posted September 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Had you watched you would know that 2 tds were from 1 yard. Ahhhh, (2) runs from in close huh...so that accountsf or 2 friggin yards... The Vikes ran for 225 yards ....Jes*s Chr*st!!!... your gonna tell me that they had AP under control if it wasn't for those 2 (1) yard runs!!... WTF??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Ahhhh, (2) runs from in close huh...so that accountsf or 2 friggin yards... The Vikes ran for 225 yards ....Jes*s Chr*st!!!... your gonna tell me that they had AP under control if it wasn't for those 2 (1) yard runs!!... WTF??????? 64 of APs 180 yards came on one carry late in the 3rd QTR. CLE stopped the run for the 1st half, then started to and ultimately fully broke in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmp Posted September 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 64 of APs 180 yards came on one carry late in the 3rd QTR. CLE stopped the run for the 1st half, then started to and ultimately fully broke in the second half. Yeah, That was his bitch slap run!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Yeah, That was his bitch slap run!! It was. Of course he gets those on every D in the NFL, not just against CLE. I'd be a little more concerned if CLE gave up a day like that to any other back in the league. We are talking about a guy who has had as big, if not bigger days against plenty of better teams than the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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