Ibleedbrown Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 I don’t often listen to podcasts but l stumbled on this one and found it interesting. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-news-in-conversation/id1577591053?i=1000669328485 It’s an interview with a woman who is a digital reporter who wrote a book about few different people who really got sucked in to Qanon, and she tries to dissect why they got in to it in the first place and the effects it had on their loved ones. It’s interesting because the people she covers come from a variety of backgrounds and it seems they all got in to it to fill a perceived hole in their life. The stuff l found most helpful were the approaches their family members took to address their loved ones’ embrace of conspiracy theories, some worked better than others. Apparently the whole “fact checking” thing is not a viable approach, but there are other approaches that are more effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 baloney. https://www.newsweek.com › new-documents-shed-light-cias-connection-lee-harvey-oswald-1765105 New Documents Shed Light on CIA's Connection to Lee Harvey Oswald Dec 6, 2022To this day, Morley suggests that the CIA is still hiding 44 documents known to exist in Joannides' personnel file that he said "will shed light on his secret activities" between 1963 in 1978 ... ******************* https://redstate.com/smoosieq/2024/09/16/beware-of-american-ryan-routh-former-cia-analyst-raised-alarm-about-would-be-assassin-in-2023-n2179394 'Beware of American Ryan Routh': Former CIA Analyst Raised Alarm About Would-Be Assassin in 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 https://www.academia.edu › 72671767 › The_Argumentative_Potential_of_Doubt_From_Legitimate_Concerns_to_Conspiracy_Theories_About_COVID_19_Vaccines The Argumentative Potential of Doubt: From Legitimate Concerns to ... In this chapter, we explore doubt, its role, and the way it is being handled in the context of the public controversy about the COVID-19 vaccine. We approach conspiracy theories as argumentative discourses and reconstruct the generic structure of a conspiracy theory macro argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 15 hours ago, Ibleedbrown said: I don’t often listen to podcasts but l stumbled on this one and found it interesting. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-news-in-conversation/id1577591053?i=1000669328485 It’s an interview with a woman who is a digital reporter who wrote a book about few different people who really got sucked in to Qanon, and she tries to dissect why they got in to it in the first place and the effects it had on their loved ones. It’s interesting because the people she covers come from a variety of backgrounds and it seems they all got in to it to fill a perceived hole in their life. The stuff l found most helpful were the approaches their family members took to address their loved ones’ embrace of conspiracy theories, some worked better than others. Apparently the whole “fact checking” thing is not a viable approach, but there are other approaches that are more effective. I've posted stuff like this in the past. Conspiracy theorists have a hole to fill. They want to be part of a community. They like to feel special when they have nothing special about them in real life. All supercharged by COVID and lockdowns. Information like this goes over as well as you'd think on here. As you can already start to see... Trump introduced the world of "fake news" and posting your own "truths". Increasingly biased online "news" sources fueled this. The cat is out of the bag and our general population is too stupid to go back. At least for a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 yeah, nothing to see here......... to leftwing sombeitches. https://pjmedia.com/paula-bolyard/2024/09/16/why-were-social-media-companies-quick-scrub-ryan-routh-accounts-n4932571 Why Was Big Tech So Quick to Scrub Ryan Routh's Accounts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 6 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Trump introduced the world of "fake news" and posting your own "truths". No, Trump exposed the state run legacy media where brainless people fall in lock step, just like sheep. Baaa Comrade. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 8 hours ago, MLD Woody said: I've posted stuff like this in the past. Conspiracy theorists have a hole to fill. They want to be part of a community. They like to feel special when they have nothing special about them in real life. All supercharged by COVID and lockdowns. I thought woody was an engineer not a psychologist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted September 17 Author Report Share Posted September 17 8 hours ago, MLD Woody said: I've posted stuff like this in the past. Conspiracy theorists have a hole to fill. They want to be part of a community. They like to feel special when they have nothing special about them in real life. All supercharged by COVID and lockdowns. Information like this goes over as well as you'd think on here. As you can already start to see... Trump introduced the world of "fake news" and posting your own "truths". Increasingly biased online "news" sources fueled this. The cat is out of the bag and our general population is too stupid to go back. At least for a while. I understand much of this, but l’m the one who found it helpful to listen to the podcast. I have an older family member that very much subscribes to conspiracy theories, and this has been going on long before Qanon was a thing. This family member has given me no less than 6 different dates the world was going to end in the last 20 or 30 years, all of which have come and gone. I’m sure they’ll be right at some point. In the meantime l’m just looking for strategies to make holidays less awkward. I have no doubt conspiracy stuff happens and Bigfoot may exist, but shit can get weird at family functions when this stuff comes to the forefront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 20 minutes ago, Ibleedbrown said: This family member has given me no less than 6 different dates the world was going to end in the last 20 or 30 years So he believes in climate change? 20 minutes ago, Ibleedbrown said: In the meantime l’m just looking for strategies to make holidays less awkward. I have no doubt conspiracy stuff happens and Bigfoot may exist, but shit can get weird at family functions when this stuff comes to the forefront. That's a tough one. I have a couple people at work that get into conspiracy theories and it's a pain in the ass. I just change the subject if I can and if I can't I find a way to get away from them. Good people but it makes my brain hurt sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 46 minutes ago, Jax said: I thought woody was an engineer not a psychologist. You know, engineer, psychologist, climatologist…same thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 He's an ageist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 16 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: He's an ageist. He sure has a lot of hate for something he's going to become 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 I'm sure plenty of cultists here gave up family for their war hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 2 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: You know, engineer, psychologist, climatologist…same thing. That includes urology and proctology too, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 11 hours ago, nickers said: That includes urology and proctology too, right? but maybe woodpecker is going to night school to be a gynocologist for trans..."women". then he can engineer stuff for them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 10 hours ago, calfoxwc said: but maybe woodpecker is going to night school to be a gynocologist for trans..."women". then he can engineer stuff for them. It's wild that trans folks just live rent free in your head... A weird obsession you have. Maybe a life you wished you could have lived... The right wing propaganda machine worker too well on you. I think it broke you. Unless you were already broken ... Which would make sense too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 3 hours ago, MLD Woody said: It's wild that trans folks just live rent free in your head... A weird obsession you have. Maybe a life you wished you could have lived... The right wing propaganda machine worker too well on you. I think it broke you. Unless you were already broken ... Which would make sense too. no, it's just in the news. and you support it. So we comment. You just wish you could live in someone's head vicariously, so you could finally know what it is like to think instead of knee jerk feel. You need a new hat, if possible. Maybe, someday, you will become a true American, and ditch your and wear this one: if they can find one small enough to fit your woodpecker head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 29 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: no, it's just in the news. and you support it. So we comment. You just wish you could live in someone's head vicariously, so you could finally know what it is like to think instead of knee jerk feel. You need a new hat, if possible. Maybe, someday, you will become a true American, and ditch your and wear this one: if they can find one small enough to fit your woodpecker head. Cal, no one in here mentioned "trans" until you did. It isn't constantly in the news. I think you just seen it out with the "news" you consume Maybe this is all triggering a long overdue awakening in your. Clearly you're fighting it now by being anti trans, but it isn't healthy. Go be your true, authentic self cal. (And you constantly bring me up in thread titles, the majority of your recent posts are woodpecker pics, etc. It's clear I'm in your head 24/7. I've been saying it for years but your obsession with me is creepy man. Or woman. Whatever you prefer. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 1 minute ago, MLD Woody said: Cal, no one in here mentioned "trans" until you did. It isn't constantly in the news. I think you just seen it out with the "news" you consume Maybe this is all triggering a long overdue awakening in your. Clearly you're fighting it now by being anti trans, but it isn't healthy. Go be your true, authentic self cal. (And you constantly bring me up in thread titles, the majority of your recent posts are woodpecker pics, etc. It's clear I'm in your head 24/7. I've been saying it for years but your obsession with me is creepy man. Or woman. Whatever you prefer. ) Stop with the word salads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 12 minutes ago, Jax said: Stop with the word salads. You're like a 4 year old that learned a new word. Adorable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted September 18 Author Report Share Posted September 18 On 9/17/2024 at 10:31 AM, Jax said: So he believes in climate change? That's a tough one. I have a couple people at work that get into conspiracy theories and it's a pain in the ass. I just change the subject if I can and if I can't I find a way to get away from them. Good people but it makes my brain hurt sometimes. I mostly have to contend with the right wing of the conspiracy theory spectrum these days, which is helpful to know. Global warming may have been a contributing factor in one of our “world is going to end” conversations of the past though. Conspiracy theories are interesting and it can be fun to ponder on them, but like any other interest or hobby, it can be a bit much if someone indulges to the point that common ground and simple understanding dissipates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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