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So you're giving Andrew Berry a pass? 

The GM is supposed to supply the players. The O line was slipping, aging, and injured. They basically did nothing to address it, except a 3rd round draft choice. The FA they brought in aren't active. It's nuts.

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48 minutes ago, Bob806 said:

So you're giving Andrew Berry a pass? 

The GM is supposed to supply the players. The O line was slipping, aging, and injured. They basically did nothing to address it, except a 3rd round draft choice. The FA they brought in aren't active. It's nuts.

A team is only as good as the general on the field.

Football teams are about only one thing. The head coach. If one believes otherwise, then that person is a sheep. An imbecile.

Dropped passes, missed assignments, lack of emotion and intensity, penalties and overall lack of discipline, not talent, are why the Browns have sucked since 1999.

Berry has hit and missed, but overall, he has given the team some impressive talent.

People who work for someone else all their lives believe the adage, "what can I do, I am not the CEO, or I am not the owner".

What underachieving just never, ever can comprehend is that it is NEVER the obedient, compliant individual who wins wars, championships. It is ALWAYS the guy who goes against the grain, who swimps upstream, who raises he'll.

Look at the emotional level of the team. Why do you think they are so lackluster, unemotional, and without discipline? Year after year after year it isbthe same thing. Year after year after year I listen to dickheads analyzing the films, the play stats, and blah, blah, blah. And every year....EVEN WITH PERSONNEL CHANGES....the product is absolutely the same. Pick your post 1999 Browns head coach and I challenge you to point out a single significant difference between any of the teams.

In my world, I have never hired someone because of their resume. Resumes are like game films. Food for imbeciles.

You hire a leader because of his values and principles, NOT because of what he did yesterday.

Stefanski is a beta male. He has a yeast covered vagina. He is a coward, a chicken, a pussy, a loser, or whatever despicable term you choose.

Do.you want to know the truth about Kevin Stefanski? Look at the faces, posture, behavior and emotional intensity of his players. THAT, not some fucking analytic chart is the measure of this man.

Marty was a choker, but he wasn't a coward. Sam was not smart about defense, but he wasn't a coward.

People here are so fucking far removed from the simple ingredients of life that they believe the solutions of life lie in analytics, play calling and personnel.

Grossi reported that Stefa ski agreed to giving up normal head coach controls as a condition of his job.

What the fuck is wrong  with people? Who in the name of Jesus Christ wants to be led by someone who has to ask for permission before making a call?

A leader has to be able to call a CEO/OWNER an asshole to his face. If you don't have THAT leader, you don't win.

Stefanski may be football smart, but he is a coward. He is willing to swallow all he knows just to keep his boss happy.

Posted
45 minutes ago, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said:

A team is only as good as the general on the field.

Football teams are about only one thing. The head coach. If one believes otherwise, then that person is a sheep. An imbecile.

Dropped passes, missed assignments, lack of emotion and intensity, penalties and overall lack of discipline, not talent, are why the Browns have sucked since 1999.

Berry has hit and missed, but overall, he has given the team some impressive talent.

People who work for someone else all their lives believe the adage, "what can I do, I am not the CEO, or I am not the owner".

What underachieving just never, ever can comprehend is that it is NEVER the obedient, compliant individual who wins wars, championships. It is ALWAYS the guy who goes against the grain, who swimps upstream, who raises he'll.

Look at the emotional level of the team. Why do you think they are so lackluster, unemotional, and without discipline? Year after year after year it isbthe same thing. Year after year after year I listen to dickheads analyzing the films, the play stats, and blah, blah, blah. And every year....EVEN WITH PERSONNEL CHANGES....the product is absolutely the same. Pick your post 1999 Browns head coach and I challenge you to point out a single significant difference between any of the teams.

In my world, I have never hired someone because of their resume. Resumes are like game films. Food for imbeciles.

You hire a leader because of his values and principles, NOT because of what he did yesterday.

Stefanski is a beta male. He has a yeast covered vagina. He is a coward, a chicken, a pussy, a loser, or whatever despicable term you choose.

Do.you want to know the truth about Kevin Stefanski? Look at the faces, posture, behavior and emotional intensity of his players. THAT, not some fucking analytic chart is the measure of this man.

Marty was a choker, but he wasn't a coward. Sam was not smart about defense, but he wasn't a coward.

People here are so fucking far removed from the simple ingredients of life that they believe the solutions of life lie in analytics, play calling and personnel.

Grossi reported that Stefa ski agreed to giving up normal head coach controls as a condition of his job.

What the fuck is wrong  with people? Who in the name of Jesus Christ wants to be led by someone who has to ask for permission before making a call?

A leader has to be able to call a CEO/OWNER an asshole to his face. If you don't have THAT leader, you don't win.

Stefanski may be football smart, but he is a coward. He is willing to swallow all he knows just to keep his boss happy.

Grossi doesn't know any more than you, I or anybody who's a fan. The only thing the Browns are truly great at now is keeping silent, not leaking crap to reporters (Local or national). It's all rumors & speculation, fueling an abused fan base into negativity (which is understandable to a degree).

I won't disagree on most of the other stuff you wrote. I'm tired of the "play calling " cries everywhere.

The Haslam structure has always been askew. Like you wrote, Jimmy Johnson basically told Jerry Jones off, and he was canned. 

Until Haslam let's Berry & Stefanski do their jobs, this is what we get. And please axe DePodesta first.

 

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19 minutes ago, Bob806 said:

Grossi doesn't know any more than you, I or anybody who's a fan. The only thing the Browns are truly great at now is keeping silent, not leaking crap to reporters (Local or national). It's all rumors & speculation, fueling an abused fan base into negativity (which is understandable to a degree).

I won't disagree on most of the other stuff you wrote. I'm tired of the "play calling " cries everywhere.

The Haslam structure has always been askew. Like you wrote, Jimmy Johnson basically told Jerry Jones off, and he was canned. 

Until Haslam let's Berry & Stefanski do their jobs, this is what we get. And please axe DePodesta first.

 

Well put. I always acknowledge that there is a wealth of impressive football knowledge on this board.

However, if you gave the smartest here a job on the Browns team, nothing would change.

Therer is ONLY one thing wrong with the Browns.

Fans are fucking simpletons. They believe that it take a management team, a collective effort, input from varied sources to win.

Layers of managent don't make an organization better. It merely insulates the guy at the top from taking blame.

I don't give a fuck if it's a football team, a ship, a corporation, or a group of pole dancers in a titty bar, The Buck has to stop somewhere. There has to be a boss. There has to be one mother fucker who says it's my way or the highway. The Browns do not have that and the lack of discipline and execution in the team is a glaring example of that.

This week Tiamat is going to analyze the films and point out the highlights and show us two or three important things that were overlooked that can make the difference next week. Orion will do his tail of the tape and the rest of the experts we'll talk about all the x's and o's. However when the game starts the Browns will show the same lack of discipline, execution, and lack of intensity that they have had since 1999.

The problem is not ownership. The problem is a head coach who is afraid of ownership.

Stefanski is beta male. End of discussion.

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said:

Stefanski is beta male. End of discussion.

Men who beat women around don't get to say who is or isn't a "beta male".

Got it, Ike? 

Posted
3 hours ago, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said:

Depodesta is the play caller AND  head coach.

Stefanski is a coffee fetcher.

1) If I am correct, Until Stefanski is fired, the Browns will remain a shit team.

2) If I am wrong, until Stefanski is fired the Browns will remain a shit team.

 

I got an accurate analysis, and get mad if you want to.

The squealers have 2 quarterbacks better than Watson and they paid only $5 million for both.

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Posted
1 hour ago, FY56 said:

I got an accurate analysis, and get mad if you want to.

The squealers have 2 quarterbacks better than Watson and they paid only $5 million for both.

I agree 100%. I have said all along the Steelers are a much better franchise that Cleveland. Watson is here because of Stefanski's to groom Mayfield.

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Agree 100 percent with Bettlejuice on this. 

I liked Stefanski when we got him but once he got the Covid and Baker and the Boys beat the brakes off the Steelers in the Playoffs without him... he hasn't been the same. He's either too cold or he doesn't care one way or another. Need to have passion to be a coach, or at least not suck at what you do. How in the hell does he let Baker go when the team followed him. And the let Kareem Hunt go which is one reason Chubb got hurt anyways. These guys are Romeo Crennel material. I could do a better job and I can barely win a Madden game these days... every play is a scam.

 

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1 hour ago, PoeticG said:

Agree 100 percent with Bettlejuice on this. 

I liked Stefanski when we got him but once he got the Covid and Baker and the Boys beat the brakes off the Steelers in the Playoffs without him... he hasn't been the same. He's either too cold or he doesn't care one way or another. Need to have passion to be a coach, or at least not suck at what you do. How in the hell does he let Baker go when the team followed him. And the let Kareem Hunt go which is one reason Chubb got hurt anyways. These guys are Romeo Crennel material. I could do a better job and I can barely win a Madden game these days... every play is a scam.

 

Hey Po!  Hope you are well.  I don't agree with a word you said, but I've been wondering where you've been and hoped you were well.  

Posted
3 hours ago, PoeticG said:

Agree 100 percent with Bettlejuice on this. 

I liked Stefanski when we got him but once he got the Covid and Baker and the Boys beat the brakes off the Steelers in the Playoffs without him... he hasn't been the same. He's either too cold or he doesn't care one way or another. Need to have passion to be a coach, or at least not suck at what you do. How in the hell does he let Baker go when the team followed him. And the let Kareem Hunt go which is one reason Chubb got hurt anyways. These guys are Romeo Crennel material. I could do a better job and I can barely win a Madden game these days... every play is a scam.

 

I called Crennell and Phil Sewage coffee fetcher. Stefanski fetches coffee for Depodesta

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Here's my analysis. This season was either going to go really good or really bad and it's trending to the latter.

Watson is trash and the franchise is too neutered to do anything about it.

The OL is a disappointment. @Dutch Ovenis right. They're a sieve. It's time to move on from Conklin and Wills.

I want Nick Chubb to retire a Brown but no one stands a chance with the OL, coaching staff, FO, and analytics department. So tip of the hat to both @Ghoolie Always Ghoolieand @Flugel.

I'd probably draft a LT before a QB because a franchise QB stands no chance with this line.

The coaching staff is a disappointment. 

The FO failed to get the right players.

The ownership has failed. 

The analytics department has failed.

The receiving corps is solid but there is nobody to throw them the ball.

Finally, thanks to @nickers for the zippity doing dah reference. 

...You'll be whistling Zippity Doo Dah out of Your Asshole

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"Swing lowww.... sweet chari-oh-ottt!! """

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Posted
4 minutes ago, AP1 said:

Hahahahahahahahahaha

Vacation is underrated and underappreciated!

Theres only one man for the job!!!

 

 

 

 

Posted
21 hours ago, Ghoolie Always Ghoolie said:

A team is only as good as the general on the field.

Football teams are about only one thing. The head coach. If one believes otherwise, then that person is a sheep. An imbecile.

Dropped passes, missed assignments, lack of emotion and intensity, penalties and overall lack of discipline, not talent, are why the Browns have sucked since 1999.

Berry has hit and missed, but overall, he has given the team some impressive talent.

People who work for someone else all their lives believe the adage, "what can I do, I am not the CEO, or I am not the owner".

What underachieving just never, ever can comprehend is that it is NEVER the obedient, compliant individual who wins wars, championships. It is ALWAYS the guy who goes against the grain, who swimps upstream, who raises he'll.

Look at the emotional level of the team. Why do you think they are so lackluster, unemotional, and without discipline? Year after year after year it isbthe same thing. Year after year after year I listen to dickheads analyzing the films, the play stats, and blah, blah, blah. And every year....EVEN WITH PERSONNEL CHANGES....the product is absolutely the same. Pick your post 1999 Browns head coach and I challenge you to point out a single significant difference between any of the teams.

In my world, I have never hired someone because of their resume. Resumes are like game films. Food for imbeciles.

You hire a leader because of his values and principles, NOT because of what he did yesterday.

Stefanski is a beta male. He has a yeast covered vagina. He is a coward, a chicken, a pussy, a loser, or whatever despicable term you choose.

Do.you want to know the truth about Kevin Stefanski? Look at the faces, posture, behavior and emotional intensity of his players. THAT, not some fucking analytic chart is the measure of this man.

Marty was a choker, but he wasn't a coward. Sam was not smart about defense, but he wasn't a coward.

People here are so fucking far removed from the simple ingredients of life that they believe the solutions of life lie in analytics, play calling and personnel.

Grossi reported that Stefa ski agreed to giving up normal head coach controls as a condition of his job.

What the fuck is wrong  with people? Who in the name of Jesus Christ wants to be led by someone who has to ask for permission before making a call?

A leader has to be able to call a CEO/OWNER an asshole to his face. If you don't have THAT leader, you don't win.

Stefanski may be football smart, but he is a coward. He is willing to swallow all he knows just to keep his boss happy.

Of all the coaches we've seen since '99, I only regret losing 3...Butch Davis, Mangini, and Greg Williams. Hiring Freddie Kitchens instead of giving Greg Williams a shot ruined the progress that had been made after the 1 - 31 era. That marked the beginning of the end in my opinion. The only act worse was this dumb ass Watson trade fiasco. 

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The owner and all the talking heads in the Browns organization that make decisions are so fricken stupid!!  SELL THE F...ING TEAM ALREADY!!  HASLEM is a loser and so are the rest of the decision makers including Stefanski who can't make the right call to save his life!  Give it up Stefanski!  And let's talk about the PREDATOR WATSON!.  

STUPIDEST DECISION EVER BY ANY OWNER AND THE REST OF THE TEAMS DECISION MAKERS IN THE FRICKEN HISTORY OF THE NFL!!  

THEY ALL SHOULD BE FIRED AND TAKE THAT POS PREDATOR WITH YOU!

I call them the CLEVELAND PREDATORS now.  Not that I think the rest of the players are predators but because they deserve to be called that for the stupid decision they made on him.  Not to mention all that they gave up!  Yea, let's talk about that stupid decision!  

I'm a long time Brownies fan since I was a kid and it breaks my heart to no longer root for them.  I can't with a PREDATOR on the team.   For God's sake get rid of him already!  HE FRICKEN SUCKS AND YOU BLEW 230 MILLION ON HIM AND BLEW AWAY 3 FIRST ROUND PICKS FOR NOTHING!

SELL THE FRICKEN TEAM HASLEM BECAUSE YOU SUCK TOO!

GOD IT FELT GOOD TO VENT THE TRUTH!  IT JUST SET ME FREE!

GO BAKER!!

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