calfoxwc Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 It just keeps coming in - https://redstate.com/wardclark/2024/09/23/u-of-az-study-the-earth-has-been-much-warmer-in-the-past-than-now-humans-not-implicated-n2179660 U of AZ Study: The Earth Has Been Much Warmer in the Past Than Now, Humans Not to Blame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 https://www.bayer.com/media/en-us/more-than-70-of-farmers-have-already-seen-large-impacts-of-climate-change-on-their-farm-new-global-research-across-8-countries-reveals/ Monheim, September 21, 2023 – 71% of farmers say that climate change already has a large impact on their farm, and even more are worried about the impact this will have in the future. 73% have experienced increasing pest and disease pressure. On average farmers estimate that their incomes had reduced by 15.7% due to climate change in the past two years. One in six farmers even identifies income losses of over 25% during this period. These are some of the key findings from the “Farmer Voice” survey, published today, which reveals the challenges facing farmers around the world as they try to mitigate the impacts of climate change and adapt for the future. To conduct the “Farmer Voice”, life science company Bayer commissioned an agency to independently interview 800 farmers globally, representing farms large and small from Australia, Brazil, China, Germany, India, Kenya, Ukraine, and the United States in equal numbers. Farmers expect the repercussions of climate change to continue. Three-quarters of them globally (76%) are worried about the impact that climate change will have on their farm, with farmers in Kenya and India most concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted September 23 Report Share Posted September 23 It's a myth, everyone knows it. Liberals are out to destroy the fuel industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 I'm not paying for Red state. Link me to the University of Arizona study. I can all buy guarantee Red state is cherry picking, twisting, or just straight up lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 3 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: I'm not paying for Red state. Link me to the University of Arizona study. I can all buy guarantee Red state is cherry picking, twisting, or just straight up lying. The earth was a ball of molten magma when it was first formed. So yeah, it's been hotter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan1 Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 Study: Over nearly half a billion years, Earth's global temperature has changed drastically, driven by carbon dioxide | University of Arizona News Fake news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 24 Author Report Share Posted September 24 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: I'm not paying for Red state. Link me to the University of Arizona study. I can all buy guarantee Red state is cherry picking, twisting, or just straight up lying. I don't pay for redstate either. The truth makes you leftwing sombeitches cry. Too bad, but reality is important. But refusing to believe in God, America, our Flag, our Constitution/Bill of Rights, the family structure, having a strong military defense, a strong economy, capitalism, legit facts about weather and politics....Honor, Integrity, personal responsibility.... in fact, it seems you and others believe in NOTHING. Does not believing in anything else make you leftie haters feel better about yourselves? what the...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 7 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: I don't pay for redstate either. The truth makes you leftwing sombeitches cry. Too bad, but reality is important. But refusing to believe in God, America, our Flag, our Constitution/Bill of Rights, the family structure, having a strong military defense, a strong economy, capitalism, legit facts about weather and politics....Honor, Integrity, personal responsibility.... in fact, it seems you and others believe in NOTHING. Does not believing in anything else make you leftie haters feel better about yourselves? what the...? You have issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 I would be pissed if I was one of these researchers watch right wing propaganda rags "cite" my study to try and push climate change denialism. It's like they didn't even read the summary... "This research illustrates clearly that carbon dioxide is the dominant control on global temperatures across geological time," Tierney said. "When CO2 is low, the temperature is cold; when CO2 is high, the temperature is warm." The findings also reveal that the Earth's current global temperature of 59 degrees Fahrenheit is cooler than Earth has been over much of the Phanerozoic. But greenhouse gas emissions from human-caused climate change are currently warming the planet at a much faster rate than even the fastest warming events of the Phanerozoic, the researchers say. That speed of warming puts species and ecosystems around the world at risk and is causing a rapid rise in sea level. Some other episodes of rapid climate change during the Phanerozoic have sparked mass extinctions. Rapidly moving toward a warmer climate could spell danger for humans who have mostly lived in a 10 degree Fahrenheit range for global temperature, compared to the 45 degree span of temperatures over the last 485 million years, the researchers say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 24 minutes ago, DieHardBrownsFan1 said: Study: Over nearly half a billion years, Earth's global temperature has changed drastically, driven by carbon dioxide | University of Arizona News Fake news! See, that MAGA logic there. If you were wondering. Humans first evolved in Africa, and much of human evolution occurred on that continent. The fossils of early humans who lived between 6 and 2 million years ago come entirely from Africa. Most scientists currently recognize some 15 to 20 different species of early humans. MAGA's stupidity is limitless. I mean what kind of moron reads the study and thinks it shows climate change is false? A MAGA moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 So, just like every other thread cal has ever made on climate change, he's wrong and his source is wrong. Shocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 24 Author Report Share Posted September 24 1 minute ago, MLD Woody said: So, just like every other thread cal has ever made on climate change, he's wrong and his source is wrong. Shocker except it is true, and you swim in Egypt. "All your threads are wrong, so I 'm right" doesn't prove much in any discussion. And you look stupid in that wig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 38 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: except it is true, and you swim in Egypt. "All your threads are wrong, so I 'm right" doesn't prove much in any discussion. And you look stupid in that wig. Cal... I quoted the study that red state purposely falsely cited above. Read what that study actually said. Do you agree? Did you read it at all? Or did you only read the sensationalist headline of an article on your favorite propaganda site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 24 Author Report Share Posted September 24 I say there are two sides of the whole un-admitted redistribution of wealth ploy called "man made global warming", and that means it's a farce to say it is a settled science that it is true. It's a political weapon of dumbass desetruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 3 hours ago, calfoxwc said: I say there are two sides of the whole un-admitted redistribution of wealth ploy called "man made global warming", and that means it's a farce to say it is a settled science that it is true. It's a political weapon of dumbass desetruction. It is definitely being used as a political weapon, but not how you think it is... Did you even read the portion of the study I posted? I know you won't comprehend or admit how Red State was being purposely deceptive here, but you can at least part of the study that you were essentially posting at the start of this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 25 Author Report Share Posted September 25 https://www.forbes.com › sites › michaelshellenberger › 2019 › 11 › 25 › why-everything-they-say-about-climate-change-is-wrong Why Apocalyptic Claims About Climate Change Are Wrong | Forbes Nov 25, 2019Climate scientists are speaking out against grossly exaggerated claims about global warming. Getty. Environmental journalists and advocates have in recent weeks made a number of apocalyptic ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 25 Author Report Share Posted September 25 https://www.fraserinstitute.org › article › putting-the-con-in-consensus-not-only-is-there-no-97-per-cent-consensus-among-climate-scientists-many-misunderstand-core-issues Putting the 'con' in consensus; Not only is there no 97 per cent ... The most highly cited paper supposedly found 97 per cent of published scientific studies support man-made global warming. But in addition to poor survey methodology, that tabulation is often misrepresented. Most papers (66 per cent) actually took no position. Of the remaining 34 per cent, 33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 I’m convinced Redstate is just punking their readers at this point. There has to be some sort of inter-office competition amongst all 3 of them to see who can give the craziest right wing spin to any given story. This is a study that compares the amount of CO2 in the air relative to temperature, except that it goes way back to ancient times when parts of the Earth were still cooling and the atmosphere wasn’t habitable to humans anyway so millipedes the size of buses roamed the surface. Talking millions of years here. But certainly humans weren’t to blame for any of that. We literally could not breathe in that atmosphere, so you can’t be blamed if you can’t exist. The study is clearly pro-Global Warming in its findings.Thanks to Diehard for posting it. Thanks to Redstate for playing such good jokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 25 Author Report Share Posted September 25 https://www.nrtoday.com/opinion/guest_col/guest-column-man-made-global-warming-is-a-hoax/article_ab978b30-58a9-11ee-813e-b783adbd72bc.html Guest Column: Man-made global warming is a hoax " We have failed our children by allowing them to be taught that the hypothesis of man-made global warming is settled science. In 2013, President Barack Obama sent out a tweet claiming 97% of climate experts believe global warming is “real, man-made and dangerous.” As it turns out, the survey he was referring to didn’t ask that question, so he was basically making it up. We have spent ourselves into massive debt for a hypothesis without verifying that man-made global warming really exists. To quote Michael Crichton “I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had.” “Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What are relevant are reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus. There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period.” On Oct. 1, 2019, 500 experts wrote in a letter to the United Nations that there is no climate emergency. On Aug. 20, 2023, 1,600 scientist — one of which was Kevin Kilty, A former University of Wyoming professor — signed a declaration stating there is no climate emergency that justifies eliminating fossil fuel usage by 2050. No media is willing to publish the truth that has been available to anyone who would do the research. If the facts are published, they call it misinformation. They have gone so far as to fact check Opinion pieces, (so you are now not allowed to express an opinion that is different from the chosen story). The medias claim they are trying to unite us, which is B.S. They follow the Marxists strategies not fair news reporting that we received when we were younger. When any study or research questions the hypothesis of man-made global warming, the media and the politicians label the results as misinformation, refusing to question or test the results. Consequently, people with good intentions to protect the environment make decisions based upon politics not science. Because the information that they receive is political not scientific. Therefore they become weapons of the rich who profit from the climate change hoax. If you follow the money, it is easy to identify the unscrupulous in the media and the politicians who seek profit from these lies. Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth. Einstein argued that private capital “tends to become concentrated in few hands,” resulting in “an oligarchy of private capital the enormous power of which cannot be effectively checked even by a democratically organized political society.” “Moreover, under existing conditions, private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main sources of information (press, radio, education). “It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights.” According to Forbes, 15 billionaires own America’s news media companies. Oscar Wilde said “In the old day’s men had the rack. Today they have the press.” We are bombarded with what the media says is news, but, in most cases, does not identify a real source, or attribute the facts to a specific person, organization or official documents. All references are identified as “an anonymous or unidentified source” which should translate to: “this may or may not be true.” As a result, most local newspapers and TV news parrot their corporations’ bylines. John Fedele Jr. said “Framing ideas and debates, telling people what they should think about public issues and defending doctrinal orthodoxies is what lobbying on behalf of power is all about. The role of the media, journalists and commentators, is to challenge and expose these processes, not to endorse or amplify them.” Biden claims that they are following the science but they are not, they are just trying to control your money. If there was any science to support man-made global warming Biden would not have disguised the new green deal by calling it the Inflation Reduction Act. Biden promised to bring us together, but he has driven us farther apart by saying things like “U.S. democracy cannot survive the threat of MAGA Republicans.” There will never be peace without civil discourse. Robert Vorhies has lived in Sutherlin for 13 years. He is a veteran who is a retired general contractor, forensic construction analyst and maintenance supervisor. He enjoys raising cattle and working on his hot rods." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 25 Author Report Share Posted September 25 https://www.scientificamerican.com › article › climate-change-will-not-be-dangerous-for-a-long-time Climate Change Will Not Be Dangerous for a Long Time Either global warming is "real, man-made and dangerous," as Pres. Barack Obama thinks, or it's a "hoax," as Oklahoma Sen. James Inhofe thinks. But there is a third possibility: that it ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 25 Author Report Share Posted September 25 here is an excellent rad on the subject: https://www.heritage.org/environment/report/warming-the-truth-the-real-story-about-climate-change Warming Up to the Truth: The Real Story About Climate Change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FY56 Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 1 hour ago, MLD Woody said: It is definitely being used as a political weapon, but not how you think it is... Did you even read the portion of the study I posted? I know you won't comprehend or admit how Red State was being purposely deceptive here, but you can at least part of the study that you were essentially posting at the start of this thread I couldn’t read the Red State article. In what way was Red State deceptive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 25 Author Report Share Posted September 25 https://hotair.com › headlines › 2023 › 10 › 21 › new-report-dumps-cold-h2o-on-man-made-global-warming-n586533 New Report Dumps Cold H2O on Man-Made Global Warming Oct 21, 2023It's that the Abstract bluntly declares that "standard climate models are rejected by time series data on global temperatures" while the conclusions state "the results imply that the effect of man-made CO2 emissions does not appear to be sufficiently strong to cause systematic changes in th **************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 25 Author Report Share Posted September 25 https://reason.com › 2017 › 01 › 04 › georgia-tech-climatologist-judith-curry Georgia Tech Climatologist Judith Curry Resigns over 'the CRAZINESS in ... IPCC. Georgia Tech Climatologist Judith Curry Resigns over 'the CRAZINESS in the field of climate science.' She is a prominent critic of the "consensus" that man-made climate change is an ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 25 Author Report Share Posted September 25 ttps://www.dailymail.co.uk › sciencetech › article-2922553 › Global-warming-believers-like-hysterical-cult-MIT-scientist-compares-climate-alarmists-religious-fanatics.html Global warming believers are like a 'cult', says MIT scientist Global warming believers are like a hysterical 'cult': MIT scientist compares 'climate alarmists' to religious fanatics. Comments were made by professor of meteorology, Richard Lindzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 25 Author Report Share Posted September 25 So....Prominent scientists are starting to agree with ME. ************************************************************ ttps://www.epw.senate.gov › public › index.cfm › press-releases-all?ID=927B9303-802A-23AD-494B-DCCB00B51A12 Climate Momentum Shifting: Prominent Scientists Reverse Belief in Man ... Following the U.S. Senate's vote today on a global warming measure (see today's AP article: Senate Defeats Climate Change Measure,) it is an opportune time to examine the recent and quite remarkable momentum shift taking place in climate science. Many former believers in catastrophic man-made Climate Momentum Shifting: Prominent Scientists Reverse Belief in Man-made Global Warming - Now Skeptics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 Yes, Cal, congrats. You Googled and spammed more links. More bullshit from a full of shit poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 21 minutes ago, FY56 said: I couldn’t read the Red State article. In what way was Red State deceptive? Look at the portion of the article on the study I linked. Do you think fucking Red State was out there talking about how mankind has led to climate change? I didn't pay or give my info to get their full article, but I've seen enough of their shit posted here to know their intentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 25 Author Report Share Posted September 25 Just now, MLD Woody said: Look at the portion of the article on the study I linked. Do you think fucking Red State was out there talking about how mankind has led to climate change? I didn't pay or give my info to get their full article, but I've seen enough of their shit posted here to know their intentions. read every article I posted, or go get toasted by "man made fake goober warning" You FEEL that every article was from the same poster? wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted September 25 Report Share Posted September 25 17 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: read every article I posted, or go get toasted by "man made fake goober warning" You FEEL that every article was from the same poster? wow. Jesus Christ cal. Read what I posted. Read the portion of the study that the Red State was trying to push as anti change nonsense. Just for once read something that disagrees with your world view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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