cccjwh Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 MAGA the stupidest cult in modern history. Josseli Barnica Died in Texas After Waiting 40 Hours for Miscarriage Care — ProPublica Josseli Barnica grieved the news as she lay in a Houston hospital bed on Sept. 3, 2021: The sibling she’d dreamt of giving her daughter would not survive this pregnancy. The fetus was on the verge of coming out, its head pressed against her dilated cervix; she was 17 weeks pregnant and a miscarriage was “in progress,” doctors noted in hospital records. At that point, they should have offered to speed up the delivery or empty her uterus to stave off a deadly infection, more than a dozen medical experts told ProPublica. But when Barnica’s husband rushed to her side from his job on a construction site, she relayed what she said the medical team had told her: “They had to wait until there was no heartbeat,” he told ProPublica in Spanish. “It would be a crime to give her an abortion.” For 40 hours, the anguished 28-year-old mother prayed for doctors to help her get home to her daughter; all the while, her uterus remained exposed to bacteria. Three days after she delivered, Barnica died of an infection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 I used to be for an abortion ban at a certain number of weeks, but honestly, I'm changing my mind. The vast vast majority of abortions happen in the first trimester. No one is having a third trimester abortion for the fun of it. Stories like this, and many others, where doctors are scared to provide treatment to the mother because of a state's laws, is disturbing and awful. I'd rather not add that gray area at the harm of the mother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 27 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: The vast vast majority of abortions happen in the first trimester. Since you want to play the numbers game, abortions performed on rape and incest victims account for less than 2%. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 so just ONE instance of a terrible event, makes for a total policy? (didn't they treat the infection? of course they did? ) SO...... why doesn't just ONE incidence of rape, torture and murder by an illegal make for total anti-illegal policy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 1 hour ago, Canton Dawg said: Since you want to play the numbers game, abortions performed on rape and incest victims account for less than 2%. 🤔 Ok? What point did emoji grandpa think he was making there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 31 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: so just ONE instance of a terrible event, makes for a total policy? (didn't they treat the infection? of course they did? ) SO...... why doesn't just ONE incidence of rape, torture and murder by an illegal make for total anti-illegal policy? If you think a story like that has only happened once you're a fool. Not sure anyone here wants to try to fight your misogyny and xenophobia at the same time... Do to really not fundamentally understand the difference between allowing women to have control over their reproductive health and banning / deporting millions of people from this country for lack of paperwork? I mean, of course you don't. But you're so brain broken from right wing propaganda telling you every time a Hispanic guy committed a crime you're completely beyond reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 on principle, the idea of wanting a federal law fixing the problem is valid. You just emotionally reject the principle when it suits you, birdbrain. Exactly what I and others have said to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 2 hours ago, MLD Woody said: The vast majority of abortions happen in the first trimester. You referred to a majority of abortions…correct? 2 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: Since you want to play the numbers game, abortions performed on rape and incest victims account for less than 2%. 🤔 I reminded you of the number of rape and incest victims. Isn’t rape and incest a big part of the battle cry for the baby killers? Got it Sonny? Probably not, you seem to not be able to wrap your head around much….I would attribute that to your Ann Arbor education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted November 1 Author Report Share Posted November 1 44 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said: You referred to a majority of abortions…correct? I reminded you of the number of rape and incest victims. Isn’t rape and incest a big part of the battle cry for the baby killers? Got it Sonny? Probably not, you seem to not be able to wrap your head around much….I would attribute that to your Ann Arbor education. Well you women killers want the rape baby to grow up and shot up a Walmart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vambo Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 Mar 19, 2024 ·-Democrats murder more than a million babies, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 3 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: Since you want to play the numbers game, abortions performed on rape and incest victims account for less than 2%. 🤔 Even less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 2 hours ago, calfoxwc said: on principle, the idea of wanting a federal law fixing the problem is valid. You just emotionally reject the principle when it suits you, birdbrain. Exactly what I and others have said to you. There goes Cal wanting "big government" again. Conservative my ass "Problem", right Though conservatives have a knack for seeing a problem and giving it the most third grade level comprehension solution .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 33 minutes ago, cccjwh said: Well you women killers want the rape baby to grow up and shot up a Walmart. No, we can save that for the illegal immigrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 1 hour ago, Canton Dawg said: You referred to a majority of abortions…correct? I reminded you of the number of rape and incest victims. Isn’t rape and incest a big part of the battle cry for the baby killers? Got it Sonny? Probably not, you seem to not be able to wrap your head around much….I would attribute that to your Ann Arbor education. It's funny that you think you're making a point here and you're not even close haha. Not having exceptions for rape and incest are just terrible, awful cherries on top to an already archaic and misogynistic policy by conservatives. A policy the majority of America disagrees with. Rape and incest aren't the only reasons to legalize abortion.... It's adorable though to think you came up with some statistics related point though haha. Keep trying, champ And, oh please, tell me where you got your education oh wise sir... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 3 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: And, oh please, tell me where you got your education oh wise sir... I graduated from Mount Union with a major in business and a minor in accounting. I retired at age 58…champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 2 hours ago, Canton Dawg said: I graduated from Mount Union with a major in business and a minor in accounting. I retired at age 58…champ. Ok? Happy for you, champ. But I won't blame mount union for your ignorance decades later. Though maybe you shouldn't be taking shots at my education... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 woodpecker, you seem to totally lack the ability to learn anything, to be honest about anything, and understand correctly what you "read". So, your education is questioned for good reason. Your belligerence and lack of respect for anyone else stinks up this forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 8 hours ago, MLD Woody said: Ok? Happy for you, champ. But I won't blame mount union for your ignorance decades later. Though maybe you shouldn't be taking shots at my education... That’s the difference between you and I, you blame everyone…champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted November 1 Author Report Share Posted November 1 Yet another one on the GOP kill count. Nevaeh Crain Died During a Miscarriage After Trying to Get Care in Texas Hospitals — ProPublica The first hospital diagnosed her with strep throat without investigating her sharp abdominal cramps. At the second, she screened positive for sepsis, a life-threatening and fast-moving reaction to an infection, medical records show. But doctors said her six-month fetus had a heartbeat and that Crain was fine to leave. Now on Crain’s third hospital visit, an obstetrician insisted on two ultrasounds to “confirm fetal demise,” a nurse wrote, before moving her to intensive care. By then, more than two hours after her arrival, Crain’s blood pressure had plummeted and a nurse had noted that her lips were “blue and dusky.” Her organs began failing. Hours later, she was dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 1 hour ago, Canton Dawg said: That’s the difference between you and I, you blame everyone…champ. The MAGA dumbasses have spent years on here blaming everyone else for anything they don't like. Liberals. Academics. Poll workers. Immigrants. Immigrants some more.... Taking after your dear leader that is incapable of taking any responsibility for his actions. So I guess it isn't a surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 Key phrase:, neither of them wanted an abortion. A close friend's brother in law just died of a hospital acquired infection after a seemingly successful surgery. Plus I don't think that has anything to do with president Trump's position, except to you and the woodpecker.. WSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 Texas’s abortion ban threatens prison time for interventions that end a fetal heartbeat, whether the pregnancy is wanted or not. It includes exceptions for life-threatening conditions, but still, doctors told ProPublica that confusion and fear about the potential legal repercussions are changing the way their colleagues treat pregnant patients with complications. In states with abortion bans, such patients are sometimes bounced between hospitals like “hot potatoes,” with health care providers reluctant to participate in treatment that could attract a prosecutor, doctors told ProPublica. In some cases, medical teams are wasting precious time debating legalities and creating documentation, preparing for the possibility that they’ll need to explain their actions to a jury and judge. Sounds like the hospital is being incompetent. Hell, it could be an excuse to cover their wn tracks after shrugging her conditions off. Maybe all of politics should address this concern and make sure hospitals know and are covered in protecting the mom in these situations. If it ever comes down to a choice of who lives or die, that should fall solely on the individual/family. Not doctors or regulations. That's the problem with the left, they just want to blame the other side constantly and do nothing constructive. Like you guys pretending to care about anything, it's all a game to you, except Woody, I think he is just an ignorant dumbass. You pretend to ignore the crimes by illegals yet when a couple mothers die all of the sudden you care, all in the name of killing babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 9 hours ago, calfoxwc said: woodpecker, you seem to totally lack the ability to learn anything, to be honest about anything, and understand correctly what you "read". So, your education is questioned for good reason. Your belligerence and lack of respect for anyone else stinks up this forum. Cal, you frequently quote other posters, turn their words into "fart" "peck" whatever and just reply with woodpecker or other images. You consistently get called out posting a series of google links that you didn't read when I find one in there refuting whatever asinine point you're trying to make. And you want to talk about respect and reading comprehension???? Hahaha that's a fucking joke. Again, your cognitive dissonance/ complete lack of self awareness will always be amazing to me. But something has to be off in your brain to believe the things you do ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 4 minutes ago, MLD Woody said: Cal, you frequently quote other posters, turn their words into "fart" "peck" whatever and just reply with woodpecker or other images. That's because you never say anything of substance, it's all word salads. We all get it 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted November 1 Author Report Share Posted November 1 18 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Key phrase:, neither of them wanted an abortion. A close friend's brother in law just died of a hospital acquired infection after a seemingly successful surgery. Plus I don't think that has anything to do with president Trump's position, except to you and the woodpecker.. WSS But guess what, they both needed one in the end. But the fetus still had a heartbeat, so fuck the women. "Pro-life", what a fucking joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccjwh Posted November 1 Author Report Share Posted November 1 In what I'm sure is a completely unrelated early voting news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 46 minutes ago, Westside Steve said: Key phrase:, neither of them wanted an abortion. A close friend's brother in law just died of a hospital acquired infection after a seemingly successful surgery. WSS Steve, these stories have nothing to do with wanting an abortion. It has to do with the strict, backwards laws in certain states preventing the care that a pregnant woman needs because the doctors are scared of legal repercussions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 4 minutes ago, calfoxwc said: Again, woodpecker, the law was POSTED. It shows you are WRONG. Therefore, you ignore it with insults and flail away. and peck. You lefties worship your own emotionalism - that is your fake "god". That's why facts and legit reasoning don't matter. Seems that you have started every bit of discord with other people you criticize. Not good for you. You swim in Egypt. Cal, please learn to read. And please try therapy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 Again, woodpecker, the law was POSTED. It shows you are WRONG. Therefore, you ignore it with insults and flail away. and peck. You lefties worship your own emotionalism - that is your fake "god". That's why facts and legit reasoning don't matter. Seems that you have started every bit of discord with other people you criticize. Not good for you. You swim in Egypt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 The lefts gift that keeps giving, but let's ignore it to pretend we care about hospitals that are neglect in treating patients because we can spin it into abortion laws. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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