Steelers (eew)

[Bob806]

I guess I shouldn't be shocked given their last few years' history, but wow I'm truly surprised they've lost 3 in a row, 4 of 6.

KC really took it to them. Wilson had no answers, & they kind of pulled a "Browns" with Warren, who was making plays, but they leaned on Najee.

My brother-in-law in Pittsburgh has been anti-Tomlin for a long time. You guys think he stays if they go one & done? 

[Jax]

That's a tough one, Steelers always seem to win most of their games year after year.

I thought they'd suffer when Ben left but they just keep trucking along.

[TexasAg1969]

9 minutes ago, Jax said:

That's a tough one, Steelers always seem to win most of their games year after year.

I thought they'd suffer when Ben left but they just keep trucking along.

And the Ravens just walked all over Houston 31-2.

[Dutch Oven]

31 minutes ago, Jax said:

That's a tough one, Steelers always seem to win most of their games year after year.

I thought they'd suffer when Ben left but they just keep trucking along.

Yes and no.

They are now kind of in purgatory.

They are still a good regular season team that can't win in the playoffs. 

[USFBrown]

1 hour ago, Dutch Oven said:

Yes and no.

They are now kind of in purgatory.

They are still a good regular season team that can't win in the playoffs. 

I'd trade that over the 7th level of hell we've been in forever. 

[tiamat63]

 They're a solid, but unspectacular team. I've said it before - competitive, won't embarrass the fans week in and out.   Can even slip in a division crown and playoff appearance building similar rosters.   The Browns should be so lucky to have such fortune.  

 

 But they're going to struggle against the upper tier teams - PHI, KC, BUF, DET...   Comes with the territory of having middle tier QB play. 

 

[Dutch Oven]

30 minutes ago, USFBrown said:

I'd trade that over the 7th level of hell we've been in forever. 

Perhaps, but if you are a lifetime Steelers fan who expects their team to consistently be a Super Bowl contender, you would feel different when your team is a 10 win team every year that is one and done in the playoffs. 

[FairHooker11]

11 hours ago, Bob806 said:

I guess I shouldn't be shocked given their last few years' history, but wow I'm truly surprised they've lost 3 in a row, 4 of 6.

KC really took it to them. Wilson had no answers, & they kind of pulled a "Browns" with Warren, who was making plays, but they leaned on Najee.

My brother-in-law in Pittsburgh has been anti-Tomlin for a long time. You guys think he stays if they go one & done? 

funny you say "pulled a Browns" because if they (squeelers) get rid of Tomlin, they will have abandoned a formula / tenure (Noll, Cowher and Tomlin)

of success much like that of Brown, Collier  - before Modells tinkering and coaching / FO changes of the 70's right up til  baltiwhore. 

(and of course picking up where they left off after Palmers debut) 

IF they FO look for the shinier coach on the horizon - they could be entering into an abyss of theyre own? 

Filled with mistake after mistake CLE style or stay the course by keeping Tomlin.

This is a different NFL from what ordinary fan like me remembers.   

[Flugel]

18 hours ago, USFBrown said:

I'd trade that over the 7th level of hell we've been in forever. 

Marty Schottenheimer wishes he had a lot more fans with this train of thought.  His 2 biggest mistakes?  Chip Banks wasn't Lawrence Taylor; and the knucklehead who threw batteries at Elway had the accuracy of Kyle Boller.  I'm obviously kidding there. 

Schottenheimer's regular season teams played some fun wide open football; but his post season mentality was an ass puckered conservative approach.  When the Browns played the Jets at home in the midst of NY's 7 game losing streak - that game shouldn't have come down to a roughing the passer call on Mark Gasti-Naughty or overtime. 

I keep hearing Tomlin is such a great coach because the ownership and FO there has made it an easy place for a HC to thrive since it brought Chuck Noll there.  Then it brought Schottenheimer's star coaching assistant Bill Cowher there and Tomlin is only the 3rd HC in all this time since the early 70s.  That said, that fan base has never had to be so patient that they had watch Cleveland beat them scoring 48 points in Pittsburgh in the 1st round of the playoffs.  That was the 1st of 4 straight first round post season exits in a place that isn't used to that kind of thing.  The difference between a good ownership and a bad ownership starts with the know how to hire and the know who to lean on.  Does Jimmy have any of us confident with either of those 2 things?  

[Bob806]

29 minutes ago, Flugel said:

Marty Schottenheimer wishes he had a lot more fans with this train of thought.  His 2 biggest mistakes?  Chip Banks wasn't Lawrence Taylor; and the knucklehead who threw batteries at Elway had the accuracy of Kyle Boller.  I'm obviously kidding there. 

Schottenheimer's regular season teams played some fun wide open football; but his post season mentality was an ass puckered conservative approach.  When the Browns played the Jets at home in the midst of NY's 7 game losing streak - that game shouldn't have come down to a roughing the passer call on Mark Gasti-Naughty or overtime. 

I keep hearing Tomlin is such a great coach because the ownership and FO there has made it an easy place for a HC to thrive since it brought Chuck Noll there.  Then it brought Schottenheimer's star coaching assistant Bill Cowher there and Tomlin is only the 3rd HC in all this time since the early 70s.  That said, that fan base has never had to be so patient that they had watch Cleveland beat them scoring 48 points in Pittsburgh in the 1st round of the playoffs.  That was the 1st of 4 straight first round post season exits in a place that isn't used to that kind of thing.  The difference between a good ownership and a bad ownership starts with the know how to hire and the know who to lean on.  Does Jimmy have any of us confident with either of those 2 things?  

Good post! 

Hey, as frustrating as it was with Marty and the playoffs, he remains the only coach in NFL history to be shunned from the HOF with 200+ wins. Critics point to his 5-13 playoff record. My biggest problems with Marty was taking Dave Puzzoli off the field on 3rd & 19 after he sacked Elway, and Herman Fontenot up the middle on 3rd & 2 in OT. (I'm over it now lol). Also, Marty got fired from the Chargers because he wanted Drew Brees at QB....he was 100% correct on that one.

So how in the hell is Bill Cowher in the HOF? 1-4 in AFC Title games at home, and could have been 0-5 on the failed Hail Mary. Yeah, he "won" a (tainted) Super Bowl, but just my opinion, he's the most over rated HC in the modern era. Rant over.

[Dutch Oven]

The last time the Pittsburgh Steelers fired their head coach, Lyndon B. Johnson was President. 

That just absolutely boggles the mind. 

[Flugel]

13 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

The last time the Pittsburgh Steelers fired their head coach, Lyndon B. Johnson was President. 

That just absolutely boggles the mind. 

It all starts with the Ownership.  As we learned the hard way, if your owner is going bankrupt - winning hibernates.  

[syd]

 

[Dutch Oven]

I remember hearing about what a headcase Pickens was when he was entering the Draft, then the Steelers drafted him and all the talking heads were "What a great value pick the Steelers made!". 

Guy dropped at least three passes last night, which is why Steelers fans were giving him shit. 🤣

[Canton Dawg]

He’s nothing like his dad.

[TexasAg1969]

3 hours ago, Canton Dawg said:

He’s nothing like his dad.

And Mike Evans caught his $3 mil pass to go over 1000 yds for the season. 11 straight 1000 yd seasons to tie Jerry Rice. Baker looked for him to get him those final yards. Team went bananas.

[USFBrown]

17 minutes ago, TexasAg1969 said:

And Mike Evans caught his $3 mil pass to go over 1000 yds for the season. 11 straight 1000 yd seasons to tie Jerry Rice. Baker looked for him to get him those final yards. Team went bananas.

That really came down to the wire.  Glad Mike got the record.

[BernieSuperBowl2]

I hate George Pickens! I still can't believe he whined about the snow when we beat them with Jameis. 

[Dutch Oven]

It's going to continue to be interesting to watch what the Steelers do concerning the QB position and perhaps Mike Tomlin.

This is Tomlin's 18th season as the Steelers head coach. The Steelers have won a playoff game in four of those seasons. 

 

[tiamat63]

16 hours ago, Dutch Oven said:

It's going to continue to be interesting to watch what the Steelers do concerning the QB position and perhaps Mike Tomlin.

This is Tomlin's 18th season as the Steelers head coach. The Steelers have won a playoff game in four of those seasons. 

 

 

 There has to be a certain amount of acknowledgement that the franchise is competitive and steady.  That said, during Ben's prime years the AFC was loaded and they had to contend with that.   

 The roster got older and there has been no franchise QB to succeed him. Their steady competitiveness and playoffs appearances in a QB driven NFL is impressive in its own way.   I don't think you'd find many coaches who would do better with their roster(s).  Doesn't mean I believe Coach Tomlin is a spectacular tactician either.  

 The problem with that is it requires introspection from Managements and Ownership.  Something sorely lacking in today's world; just asking one's self "have I contributed enough/contributed to the problem?". 

[syd]

fuck prime video,the only reason to bother watching the game is to see the steelers fucking die

[TexasAg1969]

1 hour ago, syd said:

fuck prime video,the only reason to bother watching the game is to see the steelers fucking die

And at Halftime it Ravens 21 Stealers 0. I don't pay extra either to watch it on prime or peacock or any other robbery corporation.

[Bob806]

Just now, TexasAg1969 said:

And at Halftime it Ravens 21 Stealers 0. I don't pay extra either to watch it on prime or peacock or any other robbery corporation.

My wife has Amazon Prime, but my parental controls don't allow these teams on my TV🤣

[hoorta]

4 hours ago, syd said:

fuck prime video,the only reason to bother watching the game is to see the steelers fucking die

They be dead...  

2 hours ago, TexasAg1969 said:

And at Halftime it Ravens 21 Stealers 0. I don't pay extra either to watch it on prime or peacock or any other robbery corporation.

Whut? You don't have Prime?  Hell, it's worth it to abuse free delivery to have them send you $5 bucks worth of stuff for free.  

Though I do have to admit the NFl is slowly screwing their fans. Nope, don't have YouTube TV.  The wife has Netflix so that saved us seeing a game. The Trekie in me had to have Paramount+, and um, you need to go the friends & family route to find someone who has Peacock. (NBC being the worst offender) Like us bike guys POed that they moved the Tour de France from NBC Sports over to Peacock. 

[TexasAg1969]

And enjoy my favorite destructo machine working over them Squealers for 186 and 2 TDs. LOL!  And yes it will play.

 

[Bob806]

So they go 10-7, lose in the WC again. Their fan base getting really fed up. 

They're spoiled IMHO. 

We're a damaged fan base longing for a winner, clinging to the long lost days of the 80s & 40s/50s/60s. 

They're clinging to the 70s & the over rated Bill Cowher years. I wonder if Tomlin gets axed ( doubt it).

[Dutch Oven]

Lost in the Mike Tomlin Can't Win A Playoff Narrative is that apparently T.J. Watt ended the season not recording a defensive stat in the last 193 snaps.

Not one sack, not one tackle.

I'm only mentioning this because there's a very specific subgroup of Browns "fans" who seem to really care about T.J. Watt. 

[Canton Dawg]

2 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:

Lost in the Mike Tomlin Can't Win A Playoff Narrative is that apparently T.J. Watt ended the season not recording a defensive stat in the last 193 snaps.

Not one sack, not one tackle.

I'm only mentioning this because there's a very specific subgroup of Browns "fans" who seem to really care about T.J. Watt. 

If I recall correctly, Obama was President the last time the Stoolers won a playoff game.

But be careful when you mention it around one of the Ohio hillbillies that support them.

They are quick to tell you how many Super Bowl “rangs” they have.

[Dutch Oven]

16 minutes ago, Canton Dawg said:

If I recall correctly, Obama was President the last time the Stoolers won a playoff game.

Yep, they beat Kansas City on January 15, 2017th. 

[Browns149]

The stoolers gave up 299 yards rushing. How Browns of them 🤣