PFT is reporting that Brady Quinn's house is for sale

[pl4tinum]

Brady Quinn's house is for sale

Posted by Mike Florio on October 13, 2009 8:52 PM ET

With Browns quarterback Derek Anderson strengthening his grip on the starting job after completing two passes on Sunday (cue the "it was windy, Florio!" crowd and the "they dropped eight or nine of them!" chorus), backup Brady Quinn has been the subject of renewed trade rumors.

 

The experts claim that Quinn won't be traded.

 

Just like they claimed earlier this year that Braylon Edwards wouldn't be traded.

 

But Quinn's house is now for sale, according to WaitingForNextYear.com.

 

And the report seems to be accurate. The home at 32388 Regency Court in Avon Lake, Ohio is for sale, and Quinn bought a home at that same address in 2007.

 

So we'll wait for the experts to claim that the move has no relation to a possible trade.

 

Just like they did when Jay Cutler put his Denver-area house on the market . . . not long before he was traded.

 

Possible candidates, based on our review of the depth charts for the other 31 teams, are the Bills, Texans, Jaguars, Raiders, Redskins, Panthers, Rams, 49ers, and Seahawks.

[Crow]

Honestly I just want the controversy to be over. I don't think either guy is going to be the future.

[cambridgeho]

He hasn't made the money he was hoping he would, now he has to down size to a million dollar home and sell his 5 million dollar home. I feel so bad for him.

[pl4tinum]

He's gone before the trade deadline, that's my guess. To... either the 49ers or Panthers would be my guess on which team.

[Crow]

I'm hoping it's Oakland.

[Mark O]

I think that it's not a surprise. If I were him, I would want out. I think he got a quick hook and if Anderson wasn't pulled during the game last week, he isn't going to be pulled ever. Quinn has no future here, the coaches have made that clear and if I were him I would want out as well.

 

 

[Earl34]

I would say that I'd be mildly shocked. I can't see him stepping in and starting anywhere right away. My guess is an NFC team with an older/frequently dinged QB possibly running a WCO. Seahawks to take over for Hasselbeck?

[Crow]

I'm thinking we're going to get another 3rd and 5th kinda a deal out of this.

 

EDIT: Hasselbeck just went 41-0 against the Jags...

[Earl34]

I think that it's not a surprise. If I were him, I would want out. I think he got a quick hook and if Anderson wasn't pulled during the game last week, he isn't going to be pulled ever. Quinn has no future here, the coaches have made that clear and if I were him I would want out as well.

 

Mark, I apologize for singling you out but why is it that everyone who gets traded from this team "wanted out" as if to imply that they had a choice? I think that in trying to move forward, one has to go.

 

I think (and this is my opinion) that somehow Quinn might be relieved to get out of the pressure he'd have playing in his hometown. The NFL is a cruel and curt business. Brady Quinn was the last regime's toy. If he's truly gone then he's gotten the "John Beck Treatment". I wouldn't wish ill on the man myself but I am just not a fan.

 

[sofakingwhat]

Uh oh this thread will be deleted because you gave out Brady's address. This just in Barak Obama lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave Washington Dc.

[Earl34]

I'm thinking we're going to get another 3rd and 5th kinda a deal out of this.

 

EDIT: Hasselbeck just went 41-0 against the Jags...

 

Crow,...sorry....I meant take over for Hasselbeck in the future (not now).

[DeadWombat]

I dont want to see Quinn go, but when I look at the circumstances that have happened behind this QB circus, its hard to see why he wont be gone.

[choco]

id want out too if i was just told i wont hit my escalators. it is a business, no reason to assume he's bitter until he opens that beautiful mouth of his.....

[Earl34]

San Francisco and Carolina make the most sense. It won't take a ton, so it isn't that huge of a gamble for them, and his price is right. For Carolina, they probably won't make the playoffs and might steal their long-term quarterback for a third and fifth round pick, then give him a half season of starts.

 

Time will tell if watching Sanchez, Quinn, Edwards, and Winslow play other places made any sense at all (if indeed Quinn is moved) but the Browns would then have 13 draft picks to move around. You'd much rather have eight in the first 4 rounds (mostly in the first three), which would be really do-able given that the Louis Leonard pick has moved to a 6th, I believe.

 

Shep....what if they trade for him but John Fox gets the axe? New regime?

 

If this is true, the destination city will be very interesting because I think that BQ is as polarizing amongst NFL scouts and GMs as he is on this board. It's hard to see him going to a vertical attack like Carolina but they are a "run first" team.

[Crow]

3rd and a 5th...3rd and a 5th.

 

Man, I don't know. That doesn't seem like a lot. But then again if we start him more there's a high chance his value plummets further...

[Gips]

All those players are better off going elsewhere...further more any browns fans that cant take 10..20..30 more years of losing under lerner and his minions should probably go find a team elsewhere too in order to enjoy real pro football...this club is utterly clueless and hopeless from the top down....

 

All these players are going to have decent careers elsewhere and this could have a negative reaction on fans and...new players will not want to play or stay in cleveland...this club may be screwed...

[chumpchange]

Seems like Seattle with Hasslebeck would be a good fit.

[Earl34]

I think the book on him is REALLY mixed around the league, from what I'm reading. Some think he'll be a career backup, an A.J. Feeley type of player... but others haven't lost faith that he's a big-time quarterback, believing that he got epically hosed in Cleveland. Keep in mind that EVERYBODY saw him as a Top 10 type of player out of college, including Kiper and company.

 

As King said, did he really just suddenly wake up and suck this year, after a nice debut last year and a good preseason this year? How come?

 

Shep, not EVERYBODY saw him as a "top 10" player or else he wouldn't have been escorted out of the waiting area in the draft. You're spot on in your analysis of how divided people are over him though.

 

[Crow]

What's the LEAST you'd give Quinn up for? Another Edwards like deal, a 3rd and a 5th thing seems like a raw deal to me. I'd take a 2nd round pick in a heartbeat though.

[Earl34]

What's the LEAST you'd give Quinn up for? Another Edwards like deal, a 3rd and a 5th thing seems like a raw deal to me. I'd take a 2nd round pick in a heartbeat though.

 

I think that with a player like this, you'll see some kind of sliding scale deal. I will say perhaps a 3rd and 5th with an escalator clause based on his playing time or performance. I'm thinking of the deal that the Jets made with the Saints for Jonathan Vilma when no one knew if his knee would hold up. There was a complex two picks that turned into one higher pick but then a lower pick got traded back sort of thing.

 

BTW, did anyone look at the photos of this house? Who the hell decorates for this dude?

 

[Crow]

Good point Earl, good point.

 

Always weird seeing trades that are conditional. You both kick yourself and celebrate if you get the top value.

[chumpchange]

He hasn't made the money he was hoping he would, now he has to down size to a million dollar home and sell his 5 million dollar home. I feel so bad for him.

 

As a follow up, just heard the asking price for the house is $775,000.

 

So it's looking like he's not interested in downsizing due to a reduced salary, so much as he's interested in getting the heck out of Cleveland.

[Earl34]

I think it's pretty crazy, too... and Quinn should have started at least until the bye. He played against three great defenses with one WR who couldn't catch and another who wasn't a WR, no running game, and severe restrictions.

 

Agreed, it wasn't at all pretty. But I was still shocked when he was pulled. Intrigued and a little hopeful... but still shocked. Now that Anderson has blown ass, it looks even crazier.

 

I think the 11 mill thing comes into play, given a few things Mangini has said about saving money that will improve the team in the offseason. Quinn needs to start about 11 games to make his money, so the plan might have been to let Anderson suck for a few more games and check into Quinn after the bye.

 

I don't think Quinn is down with that plan, though.

 

Shep, I won't argue with the craziness of it but I will say that I think that the willingness to look off of the deep routes for the check downs was a problem for this coaching staff to accept. I don't know it for a fact but I have it on authority that I trust. I think that what this says to me is that they never really wanted Quinn and were starting him to make a point and are moving on.

 

[Crow]

Looks like "The Shoes" had some significance after all...

[Earl34]

I was wondering why we're dismissing St. Louis. They have no healthy QB's do they?

[chumpchange]

I think it's pretty crazy, too... and Quinn should have started at least until the bye. He played against three great defenses with one WR who couldn't catch and another who wasn't a WR, no running game, and severe restrictions.

 

Agreed, it wasn't at all pretty. But I was still shocked when he was pulled. Intrigued and a little hopeful... but still shocked. Now that Anderson has blown ass, it looks even crazier.

 

I think the 11 mill thing comes into play, given a few things Mangini has said about saving money that will improve the team in the offseason. Quinn needs to start about 11 games to make his money, so the plan might have been to let Anderson suck for a few more games and check into Quinn after the bye.

 

I don't think Quinn is down with that plan, though.

 

I think the incentives were the nail in the coffin, too.

 

Pretty good break down, if no one's read it:

 

 

 

"Cleveland Browns QB Conspiracy Corner

 

This is a new feature of mine. It will run this one time. Then it will be gone. Until it comes back.

 

When I started writing my piece yesterday about the QB Break Down (double-entendre alert!), I never had an honest thought in my head that by the time I was done DA would actually have been named the starter. Call it wishful thinking; call it naiveté; call it whatever you must. The fact is, I never dreamed that after only 2.5 games anyone would be willing to say they’d seen enough of Brady Quinn to know he had no future with this team.

 

Alas, I was wrong.

 

But, I don’t think it’s that simple. As Keyser Soze once opined, “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.” So, while some may choose to believe that Brady Quinn got hosed, and that Eric Mangini is merely trying to net some offense to stave off the wolves at the door for awhile at the expense of long-term development, I think the answer has been hiding right in front of our faces all along.

 

1. Brady Quinn’s contract is laden with incentives.

As Deep Throat (the Nixon guy, you pervs) once stated, “Follow the money!” It’s not a secret that Quinn’s deal has escalators that kick in after he plays a certain percentage of the team’s snaps as well as anything stats-related. It’s not a secret that the lion’s share of DA’s money has already been paid out in bonus form. By pulling Quinn in favor of Anderson after such a short period of time, Mangini has all but guaranteed that Quinn cannot reach those escalators, and will cost much, much less against the salary cap, and will also make him more tradeable.

 

2. Eric Mangini never wanted Quinn as his starter to begin with.

Why else would this competition have gone on so long in the pre-season? Why else would Anderson–a guy we already have quite an extensive tome on with respect to his strengths and weaknesses as a player–keep getting so many chances? Why else would Mangini insist that Brett Ratliff be included in the trade with the Jets on draft-day?

 

3. Mangini wanted an excuse to get rid of Quinn.

Following up on #2, Mangini knew that it would be a mistake simpy to cut Quinn, which would basically tell the fan base, “Look, we’re going to suck on ice for the next two years, so we’re just going to with the guy who’s under the expensive contract and will keep the seat warm until I can get more of my guys in here on both sides of the ball to be ready for a new QB of the future.” To do so would be a PR suicide. Browns fans are nothing if not willing to forget things in the short-term and go into almost every season with some kind of blind optimism. Why urinate on that before the season even started?

 

4. Mangini set Quinn up to fail.

Because of #2 and #3, Mangini pre-orchestrated a plan to give Quinn a minscule shot so that he could say to the fan base, “See? We tried. It didn’t work. Time to move on to Plan B-as-in-’Blow Up’ folks,” and at the first sign of struggle would then jettison the Golden Domer in favor of Anderson to ride out the next two years while DA’s still under contract. Why else would we have such crappy play-calling game-in and game-out? Why else would the playcalling open up somewhat once DA was inserted in the third quarter on Sunday? Why else would Josh Cribbs be the starting #2 wide receiver when he hasn’t showed enough to merit that continued opportunity?

 

5. The Smoking Gun: Brian Robiskie will not only be active on Sunday, but will start opposite Edwards.

Mangini will announce that Robiskie made great strides in practice this week, and not only will he be active, but will start and make an impact. Cincinnati’s secondary is by far their weakest area, and Mangini will set Anderson up to look light years better than Quinn in an effort to justify moving Mr. Myoplex at the trading deadline for additional draft picks.

 

It’s all part of the master plan, folks. Mangini played us all like fiddles in an effort to get Quinn out of here and buy some time to build a team for his own QB in 2011, whether it be Ratliff or someone else not yet on the roster.

 

And, in a final move, Quinn will rip off his Browns jersey on Sunday to reveal a Dolphins jersey underneath, will hit Mangini with a folding chair, and then climb to the top of the benches and deliver one last flying elbow to the lumbar region, marking the end of this clowny chapter in Browns QB history."

 

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/?p=18462

 

 

 

[BrownIndian]

It will give me mixed feelings if BQ is traded.

 

+ I will be happy cos this will finally end the controversy. We all will now have to get behind DA - All the players will have to get in synch with just one guy and that makes life easier for the players and the OC. DA can also concentrate on just playing well without worrying about being yanked.

 

- I will feel sad cos we do not know what we have with this guy, He was one of the few guys who wanted to play for this team and was giving it his best. If he succeeds we will land up looking worse than the three stooges. Also if DA were to get injured then the one backup we have is still unprepared !

 

Anyways - what has to happen will happen !

[Crow]

This is all so weird in retrospect. Imagine if someone posted a few months back that not only would Anderson be the starter, but Quinn would be on the chopping block AFTER a game where Anderson went for 2 for 17.

 

Lumbergh was basically some kind of football idiot savant.

[BrownIndian]

I think the incentives were the nail in the coffin, too.

 

Pretty good break down, if no one's read it:

 

 

 

"Cleveland Browns QB Conspiracy Corner

 

This is a new feature of mine. It will run this one time. Then it will be gone. Until it comes back.

 

When I started writing my piece yesterday about the QB Break Down (double-entendre alert!), I never had an honest thought in my head that by the time I was done DA would actually have been named the starter. Call it wishful thinking; call it naiveté; call it whatever you must. The fact is, I never dreamed that after only 2.5 games anyone would be willing to say they’d seen enough of Brady Quinn to know he had no future with this team.

 

Alas, I was wrong.

 

But, I don’t think it’s that simple. As Keyser Soze once opined, “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.” So, while some may choose to believe that Brady Quinn got hosed, and that Eric Mangini is merely trying to net some offense to stave off the wolves at the door for awhile at the expense of long-term development, I think the answer has been hiding right in front of our faces all along.

 

1. Brady Quinn’s contract is laden with incentives.

As Deep Throat (the Nixon guy, you pervs) once stated, “Follow the money!” It’s not a secret that Quinn’s deal has escalators that kick in after he plays a certain percentage of the team’s snaps as well as anything stats-related. It’s not a secret that the lion’s share of DA’s money has already been paid out in bonus form. By pulling Quinn in favor of Anderson after such a short period of time, Mangini has all but guaranteed that Quinn cannot reach those escalators, and will cost much, much less against the salary cap, and will also make him more tradeable.

 

2. Eric Mangini never wanted Quinn as his starter to begin with.

Why else would this competition have gone on so long in the pre-season? Why else would Anderson–a guy we already have quite an extensive tome on with respect to his strengths and weaknesses as a player–keep getting so many chances? Why else would Mangini insist that Brett Ratliff be included in the trade with the Jets on draft-day?

 

3. Mangini wanted an excuse to get rid of Quinn.

Following up on #2, Mangini knew that it would be a mistake simpy to cut Quinn, which would basically tell the fan base, “Look, we’re going to suck on ice for the next two years, so we’re just going to with the guy who’s under the expensive contract and will keep the seat warm until I can get more of my guys in here on both sides of the ball to be ready for a new QB of the future.” To do so would be a PR suicide. Browns fans are nothing if not willing to forget things in the short-term and go into almost every season with some kind of blind optimism. Why urinate on that before the season even started?

 

4. Mangini set Quinn up to fail.

Because of #2 and #3, Mangini pre-orchestrated a plan to give Quinn a minscule shot so that he could say to the fan base, “See? We tried. It didn’t work. Time to move on to Plan B-as-in-’Blow Up’ folks,” and at the first sign of struggle would then jettison the Golden Domer in favor of Anderson to ride out the next two years while DA’s still under contract. Why else would we have such crappy play-calling game-in and game-out? Why else would the playcalling open up somewhat once DA was inserted in the third quarter on Sunday? Why else would Josh Cribbs be the starting #2 wide receiver when he hasn’t showed enough to merit that continued opportunity?

 

5. The Smoking Gun: Brian Robiskie will not only be active on Sunday, but will start opposite Edwards.

Mangini will announce that Robiskie made great strides in practice this week, and not only will he be active, but will start and make an impact. Cincinnati’s secondary is by far their weakest area, and Mangini will set Anderson up to look light years better than Quinn in an effort to justify moving Mr. Myoplex at the trading deadline for additional draft picks.

 

It’s all part of the master plan, folks. Mangini played us all like fiddles in an effort to get Quinn out of here and buy some time to build a team for his own QB in 2011, whether it be Ratliff or someone else not yet on the roster.

 

And, in a final move, Quinn will rip off his Browns jersey on Sunday to reveal a Dolphins jersey underneath, will hit Mangini with a folding chair, and then climb to the top of the benches and deliver one last flying elbow to the lumbar region, marking the end of this clowny chapter in Browns QB history."

 

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/?p=18462

 

It is actually lame. Why would a coach put his job on the line just to save money for the team ? Also Robiskie did not play in the Cincy game. Mangini is not here to play punkd. He is trying to do things his own way without caring for anyone and he will continue to do so until Lerner has had enough.

[choco]

was good until #5...then it fell apart. maybe mangini did set him up to fail......which is not more or less likely than quinn sucking it, at this point. either way, it was a good idea....almost hate to say it.