steel88 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2009/1...s/nh1647108.txt George Kokinis was fired Monday as general manager and escorted from Browns headquarters, according to league sources. The Browns are not confirming the reports. Hours later, sources said Ernie Accorsi was hired as the team's GM. The move is a blast from the past for Browns' fans. Accorsi was the Browns' GM from 1985 to 1992. He also served as GM of the Colts from 1982 to 83, and also worked in the Giants' front office from 1994 to 2004, including a stint as New York's GM from 1998 and on. In 2004, he spearheaded a trade to get No. 1 pick Eli Manning from the Chargers. Kokinis has been on the hot seat for more than three weeks, the source said. The ax falls one day after Browns owner Randy Lerner said he plans on hiring a strong football personality to run the Browns. The firing comes at the start of the bye week. Kokinis was hired Jan. 23 at the urging of Browns coach Eric Mangini. Lerner has said Mangini's job is safe for now. More to come as details become available. Tuesday's print editions will have a full report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodilobo Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2009/1...s/nh1647108.txt George Kokinis was fired Monday as general manager and escorted from Browns headquarters, according to league sources. The Browns are not confirming the reports. Hours later, sources said Ernie Accorsi was hired as the team's GM. The move is a blast from the past for Browns' fans. Accorsi was the Browns' GM from 1985 to 1992. He also served as GM of the Colts from 1982 to 83, and also worked in the Giants' front office from 1994 to 2004, including a stint as New York's GM from 1998 and on. In 2004, he spearheaded a trade to get No. 1 pick Eli Manning from the Chargers. Kokinis has been on the hot seat for more than three weeks, the source said. The ax falls one day after Browns owner Randy Lerner said he plans on hiring a strong football personality to run the Browns. The firing comes at the start of the bye week. Kokinis was hired Jan. 23 at the urging of Browns coach Eric Mangini. Lerner has said Mangini's job is safe for now. More to come as details become available. Tuesday's print editions will have a full report. In my opinion, this is an excellent move. Of course, I wanted Kosar to fill this position, but as a few pointed out, Bernie doesn't have the experience, and may have had a tough time. I'm confident Accorsi will do what it takes to bring the situation back to resembling a real NFL franchise. He can use Kosar's talents and instincts to his advantage to repair the damage done over the past 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshutchins Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Watched Mike and Mike this morning and they didn't confirm the Accorsi story. They did say that Lerner's been "investigating" Kokinis, Mangini and the assistant who was recently fired for the last month for both professional and personal improprieties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicopee John Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Watched Mike and Mike this morning and they didn't confirm the Accorsi story. They did say that Lerner's been "investigating" Kokinis, Mangini and the assistant who was recently fired for the last month for both professional and personal improprieties. So, it sounds like Randy boy hired a three ring circus for a front office. Dare I say, menage a trois? Nice job, Randy. The idiots are running the asylum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DestinFunk Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 So, it sounds like Randy boy hired a three ring circus for a front office. Dare I say, menage a trois? Nice job, Randy. The idiots are running the asylum. Give him a little slack... this thing could have lasted 3 or 4 years..he started investigating them in September? I am actually proud that he is paying enough attention to know some sheit was going very wrong...and thsi was all done before the hge public outcry ...so its not a knee jerk reaction someone was doing some dirty behind the scenes and randy is not tolerating more of the BS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Watched Mike and Mike this morning and they didn't confirm the Accorsi story. They did say that Lerner's been "investigating" Kokinis, Mangini and the assistant who was recently fired for the last month for both professional and personal improprieties. yeah, i read that they are checking phone records to see if he did anything to "compromise the future" of the team. he couldn't have done anything worse on the phone than what he did on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Italian DawgPound Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 yeah, i read that they are checking phone records to see if he did anything to "compromise the future" of the team. he couldn't have done anything worse on the phone than what he did on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumAssWhiteGuy Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Forget Acorsi being hired by the Browns... In an interview by the PD this morning he said he was happily retired and no truth to the other rumor he would be mentoring Bernie Kosar. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/..._browns_hi.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Can we hire someone working with another team during the season or do we have to wait till the off season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel88 Posted November 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Forget Acorsi being hired by the Browns... In an interview by the PD this morning he said he was happily retired and no truth to the other rumor he would be mentoring Bernie Kosar. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/..._browns_hi.html well now I feel like an ass haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELandMILIDH Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 So now who's it gonna be? Kosar, Floyd Reese, Charlie Casserly, Tom Donahoe, Tony Dungy, Cower, Shotenheimer, Maybe Jim Brown hes been a consultant for quite a while, maybe he's ready for the next step? Any other candidates? John Madden.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel88 Posted November 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Wait I may not be wrong yet Jeff Schudel isn't backing down from it. http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/200...7286.txt#photo1 BEREA — The Browns are looking to Ernie Accorsi as their new general manager after telling George Kokinis to resign from the same job or be fired, according to league sources. Accorsi, 65, was the Browns general manager from 1985-92 and presided over getting Bernie Kosar in the 1985 supplemental draft. He guided them to three AFC championship appearances from 1986-89. More recently, Accorsi was general manager of the Giants, a position he held from 1998 until he retired in January of 2007. His boldest move as Giants general manager was engineering a draft day trade in 2004 to land quarterback Eli Manning. Accorsi was retired by the time the Giants won the Super Bowl following the 2007 season, but he was instrumental in the Giants' championship. He built the Giants team that made it to Super Bowl XXXV after the 2000 season, a game won by the Ravens, 34-7. As of late Monday, the Browns had not confirmed their interest in Accorsi. At 10:40 p.m. they issued the following statement regarding Kokinis. It did not address whether Kokinis resigned or was fired. "Cleveland Browns General Manager George Kokinis is no longer actively involved with the organization. In response to rumors and reports that Kokinis was escorted from the building today, the Browns deny those reports. In the interest of protecting the parties involved we will withhold further comment." Kokinis, a silent part of the Browns front office behind embattled coach Eric Mangini despite his title, was hired on Jan. 23 at the urging of Mangini. The two had been friends since both worked for the Browns at the beginning of their careers in the mid-1990s. The move on Kokinis and rumored pursuit of Accorsi comes one day after team owner Randy Lerner reacted to the Browns losing, 30-6, in Chicago by saying he wants to hire a strong football authority to lead the football side of the Browns' operation. Mangini did not mention any action involving Kokinis during his 3 p.m. regular Monday press conference. Lerner did not immediately respond to emails about Kokinis or Accorsi. Kokinis worked for the Browns from 1991-95 and then followed the franchise to Baltimore in 1996. He worked for the Ravens for 13 years, most recently as the director of pro personnel. In a separate email response, Lerner said he has no plans to replace Mangini for now. Mangini said he spoke by phone with Lerner and is satisfied he has Lerner's support despite the Browns' 1-7 record and everything else that has happened under Mangini's watch, including: * Firing longtime employees from the public relations department and team website. * Remodeling the team's practice facility at an estimated cost of $5 million. * Ordering rookies after the minicamp in June to ride buses to Mangini's football camp in Connecticut, a 10-hour ride one way. * Questionable handling of quarterbacks Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson. Quinn was the starter to begin the season. He was benched at halftime of the third game. Derek Anderson replaced him and he was pulled with three minutes left in the fourth quarter Sunday. Now Mangini is pondering who will start when the Browns return from their current bye for a home game against the Ravens on Nov. 16. * Mangini fined an unidentified player $1,701 for failing to pay a $3 tab for a water bottle at the team hotel. The fine was spelled out in a list of team rules Mangini presented to his players. * On Oct. 5, Braylon Edwards allegedly punched a man outside a Cleveland bar. Two days later Edwards, who caught 16 touchdown passes two years ago, was traded to the Jets. * On Oct. 23, cornerback Eric Wright was involved in a one-car accident when he lost control of his Mercedes on a freeway entrance ramp. His car flipped several times. He escaped injury but might have been killed if he hadn't been wearing a safety belt, according to Cleveland police Lt. Joe Stacho. * Last week two fans announced they plan to lead a boycott urging fans to stay out of Cleveland Browns Stadium for the opening kickoff against the Ravens on Nov. 16. * Last week Erin O'Brien was fired as Mangini's personal assistant for unspecified reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Forget Acorsi being hired by the Browns... In an interview by the PD this morning he said he was happily retired and no truth to the other rumor he would be mentoring Bernie Kosar. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/..._browns_hi.html OK, so, what is it? Is Accorsi hired or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Here is a good question: Why was Accorsi "terminated" from the Browns back in 1992? Was it a case of BB not wanting the experienced, proven Accorsi looking over his shoulder, making personell decisions, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swenny69 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I'm just tired of the Browns being a punchline. How is it that all these jokers are running the shop? Does Lerner care at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I'm just tired of the Browns being a punchline. How is it that all these jokers are running the shop? Does Lerner care at all? yeah, he cares so much that he stared into the team's faces at halftime until they played like superbowl champions. oh wait, doing that accomplished nothing. i guess he doesn't care at all then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgpound3 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Here is a good question: Why was Accorsi "terminated" from the Browns back in 1992? Was it a case of BB not wanting the experienced, proven Accorsi looking over his shoulder, making personell decisions, etc.? And how ironic is that? Accorsi is taking over the GM position and Mangini is an belichickian disciple. Weird. Remember Belichick wanted total control and he got it. Mangini on the other hand, didn't. He got it taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 So now who's it gonna be? Kosar, Floyd Reese, Charlie Casserly, Tom Donahoe, Tony Dungy, Cower, Shotenheimer, Maybe Jim Brown hes been a consultant for quite a while, maybe he's ready for the next step? Any other candidates? John Madden.. lol I would consider Rich McKay or Tony Dungee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 So who's our GM? I want a straight answer please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 So who's our GM? I want a straight answer please. Nobody at this point. Just rumors swirling around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Nobody at this point. Just rumors swirling around. Might as well fuel the flame. Bob Saget for GM anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Charlie Casserley....I'd give him a call.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Might as well fuel the flame. Bob Saget for GM anyone? I was thinking Mr. Bean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I was thinking Mr. Bean is tony danza available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 is tony danza available? Robert DiNero...now that guy gets stuff done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 is tony danza available? by the way, the next time you're with your wife or girlfriend, give her a tony danza. you take your weiner and smack her in the face and say: who's the boss now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefjerky Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/..._browns_hi.html false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_illness Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 so...... is Kosar actually qualified for this job.... other than very strong tries to Cleveland and the Browns? seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj_illness Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 from another fan site....for anyone else (like me) that wasn't aware.. The newest rumor I'm hearing out of Berea (and none of this has been verified yet) is that Accorsi is coming in to Cleveland not to become the GM but to work with Kosar so that he will be groomed for the job. Kosar has run a football team before (Arena league) so he does have a little experience - not in the NFL though. Also the arena team he ran went from a last place team to a playoff team in one year. I'm not saying that this qualifies him for the job yet, but with Accorsi to groom him I think it might work. any more details re: this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel88 Posted November 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 This makes you wonder if Kosar's bankruptcy was all part of the plan? how so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.