samoth Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Simple question: had Baltimore kept the Browns' legacy when the team moved, would you keep your loyalty with the team or with the city of Cleveland? What then if Cleveland got some other expansion team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 fudge no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 NEVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 What then if Cleveland got some other expansion team? the steamers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 No way. Once Art took our team away, it was goodbye & hate spewed from me. I'm sure it's like that for others who saw their team leave town. I don't know how fans in cities like St. Louis must feel, after losing the Cardinals, then getting the Rams, or even Baltimore. There must have been mixed feelings in there somewhere for the true diehards. The tragedy is that these carpetbagger owners won a Superbowl, and we can't even string together two first downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 NO! I'm a huge football fan. I even mentioned it to two friends of mine recently (in separate conversations) and both of them know how fanatical I am about the NFL, not just the Browns. The three years the Browns were not in the league? I watched maybe 3 football games... total. I would have eventually come back to watching football. Because I do love it. And probably would have rooted for the Vikings or the Chiefs. If Cleveland got a new franchise with a different name, I would have rooted for them. As it is, however, the Browns are in Cleveland, and that's who I root for every Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Faaaaaak no. Now had the Bucs moved here and become the Browns? Doubtful. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgTracker Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 No, why would someone that is a cleveland browns fan support a team which was in Baltimore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicopee John Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Simple question: had Baltimore kept the Browns' legacy when the team moved, would you keep your loyalty with the team or with the city of Cleveland? What then if Cleveland got some other expansion team? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsIN09 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Pointless thread When the Browns left I didn't watch even 1 football game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoth Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz thanks for the insightful reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Simple question: had Baltimore kept the Browns' legacy when the team moved, would you keep your loyalty with the team or with the city of Cleveland? What then if Cleveland got some other expansion team? Hello, McFly, is anybody home? In case you didn't get the message the important part of the name "The Cleveland Browns" is the "Cleveland" part of it, not the "Browns" part of it. At least, that is the case for most non-ijits. The fact is, it is somewhat serendipitous that with the various franchises that were located here, between the Akron Pros, Canton Bulldogs, Cleveland Bulldogs, Cleveland Indians, Cleveland Rams, the OOrang Indians that one of them didn't survive the early days as did the Bears, Packers, Cards, Giants. In fact, the discussion was that the likely possibility was that if the Browns did "leave", that the Bulldogs name would be resurrected for a new franchise. That would have made some sense. It would have been a tribute to tradition, and would have segwayed in with this new "Dawg" pound business that the franchise had been marketing in recent years. The good thing is that that didn't happen. The Cleveland Browns franchise stayed right here. All it did was lose some of its equipment for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Cheesedick Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I saw the "Guess Who" in concert one time. None of the original band members were in the band. They called themselves the Guess Who, but were they really? Jamal Lewis was the enemy one day, the next he is our starting running back. One day we want Winslow to catch every pass thrown his way, the next day we have no interest in what he does. Like it or not, the Browns left. It doesn't matter they call this team the Browns, the continuity was broken. There is no player on this team that can connect with the old Browns. No player played with Metcalf, who played with Kosar, who played with Mack, who played with Slaughter, who e played with Sipe etc. until you get back to Jim and Paul Brown. Colors are nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoth Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I saw the "Guess Who" in concert one time. None of the original band members were in the band. They called themselves the Guess Who, but were they really? Jamal Lewis was the enemy one day, the next he is our starting running back. One day we want Winslow to catch every pass thrown his way, the next day we have no interest in what he does. Like it or not, the Browns left. It doesn't matter they call this team the Browns, the continuity was broken. There is no player on this team that can connect with the old Browns. No player played with Metcalf, who played with Kosar, who played with Mack, who played with Slaughter, who e played with Sipe etc. until you get back to Jim and Paul Brown. Colors are nice. I think technically Zastudil may have played with Vinny but I didnt check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 City of Cleveland....it's where I am from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 City of Cleveland...if there was no team in Cleveland I wouldn't really be a fan of any team, kinda like the 3 seasons we didn't have a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshutchins Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Simple question: had Baltimore kept the Browns' legacy when the team moved, would you keep your loyalty with the team or with the city of Cleveland? Don't be silly. Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Samoth: If you loved your Cleveland apple, and somebody stole it, and poked a bunch of holes in it, and rolled it in clam poop in Baltimore, would you still love that Cleveland apple? Just thought I'd top off a really boring, goofy thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 At that time...no way in hell! After the lerner debacle and 10 years of hindsight to think about it..hell yeah i could now be a baltimore browns fan ,but its all water under the bridge now and im still a cleveland clowns fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I saw the "Guess Who" in concert one time. None of the original band members were in the band. They called themselves the Guess Who, but were they really? Jamal Lewis was the enemy one day, the next he is our starting running back. One day we want Winslow to catch every pass thrown his way, the next day we have no interest in what he does. Like it or not, the Browns left. It doesn't matter they call this team the Browns, the continuity was broken. There is no player on this team that can connect with the old Browns. No player played with Metcalf, who played with Kosar, who played with Mack, who played with Slaughter, who e played with Sipe etc. until you get back to Jim and Paul Brown. Colors are nice. Well, OK, nice try. But, WRONG. The Browns did not leave. To say that because they took a couple of years off that the continuity is broken is foolish. Nearly EVERY Team in the NFL has had as much change in things since 1995 as the Browns have had. The ONLY team that has the same head coach today that they did in 1995 is the Tennessee Titans....and they weren't even the Tennessee Titans then, they were the Houston Oilers!! I think you would be lucky to find a single player in the league that has been on the same team continuously since 1995. So your argument that we need a player who played with Mack, Byner etc. is specious. Maybe a freekin kicker? Probably half the teams have new owners. And here is another deal: The fans are the same. And that counts more than anything. We are the true guardians of the Browns legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furnier Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Baltimore Browns - Blasphemy and not a chance in hell would I root for that. May have even hated them more than the Evil Empire. Relocated team to Cleveland - Nope....would have ignored them. Expansion team - Yep...got my wish...Yay me! Careful what you wish for eh? Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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