Chicopee John Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 That there never was an offer from the Jets for BQ. If they did make an offer to the Browns and the Browns turned it down, they have to be kicking themselves in the asp after watching Mark Sanchez throughout these playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Let's see this 4th quarter. We'll see if Dirty can earn his stripes. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBulldozer28 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 That there never was an offer from the Jets for BQ. If they did make an offer to the Browns and the Browns turned it down, they have to be kicking themselves in the asp after watching Mark Sanchez throughout these playoffs. why? Sanchez isnt the reason the Jets are where they are they have the #1 Rushing Offense the #31 Passing Offense they have the #1 Total Defense the have the #1 Passing Defense and the #8 Rushing Defense if they have a better QB they are 18-0 after today Sanchez if anything is holding them back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl34 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 John, There was a team interested in Quinn but the one I heard was not the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgTracker Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Sanchez is accurate which is something our QBs seem to lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBulldozer28 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Sanchez is accurate which is something our QBs seem to lack. Sanchez 53.8% Quinn 53.1% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicopee John Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 John, There was a team interested in Quinn but the one I heard was not the Jets. I believe you and your sources, Earl. Glad to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicopee John Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Sanchez 53.8% Quinn 53.1% You don't have a clue, do you? Quarterback Rating Leaders - Qualified RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G 27 Brady Quinn, QB CLE 256 136 53.1 1339 5.23 59 8 7 19 67.2 134 15 Jason Campbell, QB WAS 507 327 64.5 3618 7.14 84 20 15 43 86.4 226 26 Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB BUF 227 127 55.9 1422 6.26 98 9 10 21 69.7 142 17 David Garrard, QB JAC 516 314 60.9 3597 6.97 63 15 10 42 83.5 225 Need I continue???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBulldozer28 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 You don't have a clue, do you? Quarterback Rating Leaders - Qualified RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G 27 Brady Quinn, QB CLE 256 136 53.1 1339 5.23 59 8 7 19 67.2 134 15 Jason Campbell, QB WAS 507 327 64.5 3618 7.14 84 20 15 43 86.4 226 26 Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB BUF 227 127 55.9 1422 6.26 98 9 10 21 69.7 142 17 David Garrard, QB JAC 516 314 60.9 3597 6.97 63 15 10 42 83.5 225 Need I continue???? Brady Quinn 136-256 1339 Yards 53.1% 8 TD 7 Ints 67.2 Rating Mark Sanchez 196-364 2444 Yards 53.8 % 12 TDs 20 Ints 63.0 Rating nearly identical % and Rating, Sanchez with more Ints and TDs and yards but also about 100 more attempts nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanpot Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 You don't have a clue, do you? Based on his terrific contribution to the Tribe board, I'm convinced he's lacking in that area. His "nuff said" brilliance only helps to amplify that conviction. Still, there have been more than a few things written about Sanchez that suggest doom in his future. This may well have been covered here before, but FO had a lengthy article about the guy and his numbers. Based on this year alone, his projected career path leads him to a graveyard of ineptitude. That said, I like the guy tons. He'll never have a trophy arm and he's not my first pick to lead a team from behind, but he looks pretty terrific at managing a game. Especially so given his limited college experience. I love the way the guy looks off receivers and his play fakes are a thing of beauty. Here's the FO article posted to ESPN.com: The New York Jets' stalwart defense has carried rookies at both quarterback and running back to within one game of the Super Bowl; the Jets had better make this playoff run count, however, because while Shonn Greene looks like he'll be a good player for years, there are signs of a bleak future ahead for Mark Sanchez. Sanchez is already the youngest quarterback since at least 1960 to win two games in a single postseason; he'll be the youngest to win three or four if the Jets' hot streak continues. His performance in San Diego, however, was historically inept. Sanchez threw for only 100 yards on 23 attempts, a woeful average of 4.4 yards per attempt. Since 1978, 119 quarterbacks have thrown at least 10 passes in a playoff game and averaged less than 5 yards per attempt; only 29 of them, including Sanchez, were lucky enough to win. Greene, meanwhile, is only the fifth rookie to post two 100-yard games in the playoffs. Coincidentally, three of the other four men to pull this off -- Jamal Lewis, Curt Warner and Ickey Woods -- tore their ACLs the next season, and combined to play only three games in their sophomore seasons. The fourth, Duane Thomas, saw a promising career ruined by contract squabbles with the Dallas Cowboys and Washington Redskins. Two games, though, is a small sample size. Looking at the 16-game regular season will give us a better idea of how Sanchez and Green have played. We can put their statistics into context by using Football Outsiders' similarity scores. Similarity scores were first invented by baseball expert Bill James and have since been used by countless analysts in multiple sports. At Football Outsiders, our methodology analyzes not just yards and touchdowns -- but also age and experience. We usually examine players in two- or three-year chunks, although we obviously can't do that for Sanchez and Greene. For Sanchez, we're limiting our sample to players who were first-year starters. Now, regardless of which team each Football Outsiders writer cheers for, we are all football fans first; we want to see good young players succeed. So imagine our horror when the closest match for Sanchez turned out to be current Raiders punch line JaMarcus Russell. In 2008, Russell completed 198 of 368 passes for 2,423 yards and 13 TDs (with 8 INTs). This season, Sanchez went 196-for-364 for 2,444 yards, 12 TDs and 20 INTs. Their completion percentages were identical (ahhh!): both at 53.8 percent. Russell started 15 games at age 23 in 2008; Sanchez started 15 games at age 23 in 2009. The biggest difference is in interceptions, where Sanchez was significantly worse, throwing 20 interceptions to Russell's eight. Other players similar to Sanchez give little reason for hope. The best of the bunch are Jim Everett and Neil Lomax. There are also former first-rounders like Byron Leftwich, Tim Couch and Matt Leinart -- and then you get guys like Tony Banks, Scott Campbell and Billy Joe Tolliver. Obviously, this is one year, and Sanchez was drafted higher than most of these comparable players for a reason. He has more potential. But except for the wild-card win against Cincinnati, he really hasn't shown it. Greene's list of comparables is much more impressive; the best of the bunch is Frank Gore. Terry Allen went over 1,000 yards four times. Tatum Bell, Harvey Williams and Napoleon Kaufman each had a 1,000-yard season despite sharing time in crowded backfields. Fred McAfee never made it as a running back, but lasted 16 years as a special teamer. Greene's other four comparables -- Joe Carter, Jamie Mueller, Irving Spikes and David Overstreet -- never amounted to much. (Overstreet tragically died in a car accident after his rookie season, and never had a chance to develop.) Greene nearly set a record for one-dimensionality this season, rushing for 540 yards without catching a single pass. That's the second-highest total since 1978; Andra Franklin had 746 yards (and no catches) for the Dolphins in 1983. Greene outperformed Thomas Jones all year long. Jones ranked just 32nd among running backs in DVOA (defense-adjusted value over average, FO's exclusive metric that analyzes every play of the NFL season and adjusts it for down, distance, score, field position, quality of opponent and other factors), while Greene was 19th. Greene had a higher success rate (percentage of carries that gain meaningful yardage) than Jones, and also topped him in both second-level yards (5 to 10 yards past the line of scrimmage) and open-field yards (10 or more yards downfield) per carry. Against San Diego, the Jets had a lot more success when they abandoned the outside run and went straight up the gut. They averaged 5.7 yards per carry between the tackles, but just 2.1 yards to either side. That's nothing new for a team with a dominant interior line; the Jets were ninth overall in ALY (adjusted line yards, FO's metric that attempts to separate the performance of an offensive line from its running back), but 29th running to left end, 23rd running to the right. They should stick with that philosophy against the Colts, a defense that emphasizes speed over power. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/20...tory?id=4838995 Beanpot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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