Tour2ma Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 First, what is a sleeper? Your definition may vary, but to me a sleeper is any player selected outside of round 1 that will at minimum fight for, if not earn, a starting position at some point in their rookie season. Still working on my 2014 list, but here are my candidates to date in no particular order: Jared Abberderis (WR-Wis-R3) - awesome hands and route runner; the possession WR we hoped Bess was; pushed down boards by wave of underclassmen declaring. James White (RB-Wis-R5) - tough runner and a very good receiver. C.J. Fiedorowicz (TE-Iowa-R3/4) - a TE that can actually block; faster than you'd think for his size and very good hands. Chris Smith (DE-Ark-2/3) - at 6'1 he's shorter than the new breed of NFL DE, but looks to be a "high motor" guy. Chris Borland (ILB-Wis-R3) - not sure he qualifies as a sleeper any more after his Sr. Bowl performance; reminds me of Dick "Bam-Bam" Ambrose... short (but not small) and fast... with a motor that is off the charts. Jordan Tripp (OLB-Montana-R3/4) - yup... a Big Sky guy... tall, fast and athletic. Keith McGill (CB-Utah-R3) - think a further west version of Nebraska's Baptiste (R3)... as tall at 6'3, same weight and maybe slightly faster... Phillip Gaines (CB-Rice-R7) - caught my eye in the Sr Bowl; good speed and a very agile on a 6'1 frame. Ed Reynolds (FS-Stanford-R2) - bit of a cheat here since some rate him a late 1st rounder, but most have him as a second rounder so... 6'2, 206 and brings it. Ty Zimmerman (FS-KSU-R7) - caught my eye in 2 games this year; a bit slow perhaps for the NFL, but looked to have strong instinct for the position. Craig Loston (SS-LSU-R4) - another Tiger DB destined for the NFL; pegged as a mid-rounder, he could be a steal... Always looking for a good sleeper. I think they are a big chunk of the difference between Champions and also-rans... So who you got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 I don't know much about most of those guys. I've been big on Borland before his senior bowl though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Jared Abbrederis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Jared Abbrederis. Thank you... you interested in a proof reader job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Thank you... you interested in a proof reader job? Oh, I wasn't even trying to do that. I was just saying he's the one I wanted most of all of them. Tell you the truth, I didn't even notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Sleeper definition should also include some weighting of positional value. For example you wouldn't call a kicker a sleeper just because he was seleced in round 7. You probably wouldn't have called Gio Bernard, Eddie Lacy of LaVeon Bell sleepers even though the were (I think?) R2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Sleeper? Projected outside of top 3 or 4 at their position, and outside of the 1st round (by most), but have the makings of a pro bowler... I've watched a lot of college football this year, so here goes nothing... I like Abbrederis too, but I also like... Odell Beckham Jr. - WR - LSU - great hands, and playmaking ability... undervalued in my opinion Stanley Jean-Baptiste - CB - Nebraska - great size, fits the mold of the bigger corner... had a good Senior Bowl Marion Grice - RB - AZ St - watched him play twice this year, and I was impressed. Great receiver too Spencer Long - G - Nebraska - All-Big Ten in 2011, missed almost all of 2013 with a torn ACL.. could be a steal Shayne Skov - ILB - Stanford - great physical specimin. He fits the bill for any aggressive D with his speed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Ah yes, Borland, Long, and Skov. I think I had them all in my fake draft in that thread. Spencer Long could definitely be a steal in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted February 4, 2014 Report Share Posted February 4, 2014 Erik Lora, WR at Eastern Illinois. May even be a UFA, but I love those guys more than the high picks. Hungry, hungry, hungry!! No sense of entitlement for those guys. They are the most fun to watch at training camps & there are some real "finds" in the 6th, 7th rounds & UFA. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Terrance Cobb....I see a stud web page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandBigDawg Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Being that I am a student from a MAC school, some players that I think could make an impact that aren't really talked about could be: Alex Bayer, TE, BGSU - Gonna be a 7th or undrafted more than likely, but I think he posses good size, good enough route running and hands as well as blocking. Jerry "Booboo" Gates, S, BGSU - Probably an undrafted guy who is a little small for the position, but is definitely a playmaker on special teams. Keith Wenning, QB, BSU - IDK exactly where he is projected, but I doubt anywhere before 6-7. Has good size at 6-3 - 6-4, and a solid arm. Is also Ball States leading passer in like basically every statistic. David Fluellen, RB, UT - I am very unsure of where he is projected but believe he had a good senior bowl game, and is a downhill runner with good enough speed and hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl15 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Thank you... you interested in a proof reader job?good topic tour. Not to worried about slight spelling errors I knew exactly whom u were talking about as did 99% of all us simple folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl15 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 With the Browns more than likely putting the franchise tag on TJ Ward. I do like the value of Christian Bryant FS Thee Ohio State. Might be able sign him as UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl15 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 MARCEL JENSEN, TE Fresno St. 6'5" 270lbs 4.8 40yrd A coaching change his senior year made this Kids stock fall. He'a beast blocker with good pass catching ability. He can also play FB too. And I absolutely love McGill big physical corner to share time with Skrine. Oh and it's already reported Seahawks R already all over this guy. So naturally Browns probably not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 With the Browns more than likely putting the franchise tag on TJ Ward. I do like the value of Christian Bryant FS Thee Ohio State. Might be able sign him as UFA. Is this your own speculation? I'm all for keeping him anyway we can. Pettine says we are going to be "the toughest team on the field every wee" ... We'll then he needs to tell the Brass that TJ stays, because there aren't too many tougher at his position. Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Oh, I wasn't even trying to do that. Tell you the truth, I didn't even notice. Well in that case I withdraw my job offer... I spotted Abberderis early in the OSU game and pretty much fell in love with him. Then he had a rough patch mid-season and I wondered about him, but he finished strong. I know you think it's overkill, but I keep seeing a Gordon-Watkins-Abbederis WR Corps in my mind's eye... and I like it! Sleeper definition should also include some weighting of positional value. For example you wouldn't call a kicker a sleeper just because he was seleced in round 7. I really did not consider specialty positions (K, P) at all... so I guess that's a form of weighting. Sleeper? Projected outside of top 3 or 4 at their position, and outside of the 1st round (by most), but have the makings of a pro bowler... I've watched a lot of college football this year, so here goes nothing... Good working definition and good list... To my eye Skov seems to be a step slower than Borland and is a bit lighter to boot. It will be interesting to see them both at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Dri Archer RB Kent State [Eric Metcalf] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 good topic tour. Thank you... With the Browns more than likely putting the franchise tag on TJ Ward. I do like the value of Christian Bryant FS Thee Ohio State. Might be able sign him as UFA. Tad undersized for my taste, but fast. If he fully recovers from his broken ankle, he definitely has sleeper potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Jared Abberderis is a gem in the rough. Anyone who has watched him play can see the value he wuold bring to the team. He does not show boat and will catch everything that comes his way, the kid is a leader, its also very rare to see a polished route runner coming out of college. He would be great as a #2, but would dominate in the Slot. Very good sleeper pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl15 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 What an absolute perfect situation that would be. Gordon and Watkins on the outside with Abberderis in the slot. Jordan Cameron at TE. Carlos Hyde and Dion Lewis in the back field. U would find out if Hoyer could ever be the guy. If not then Mariota or Winston would be an excellent choice in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 What an absolute perfect situation that would be. Gordon and Watkins on the outside with Abberderis in the slot. Jordan Cameron at TE. Carlos Hyde and Dion Lewis in the back field. U would find out if Hoyer could ever be the guy. If not then Mariota or Winston would be an excellent choice in 2015. I'd be very cool with that. Take a guy like Carr/Murray/Garrapolo later. Sure up the interior line. We still really need that #2 CB and some better LBs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Homer pick, sort of Jeremy Gallon, as a slot WR in a later round. Had the 2nd most receiving yards in a game in FBS history this year plus the season record for Michigan. He also can return kicks and punts. He is more quick than fast though, so his 40 time will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Homer pick, sort of Jeremy Gallon, as a slot WR in a later round. Had the 2nd most receiving yards in a game in FBS history this year plus the season record for Michigan. He also can return kicks and punts. He is more quick than fast though, so his 40 time will be interesting. OK, you want Homer picks at WR....Corey "Philly" Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Or how about this: the Browns blew it on one Will Adams once upon a time, how about another: Will Adams WR, Western KY. Considered a top 70 prospect: http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=91043&draftyear=2014&genpos=WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl15 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Homer pick, sort of Jeremy Gallon, as a slot WR in a later round. Had the 2nd most receiving yards in a game in FBS history this year plus the season record for Michigan. He also can return kicks and punts. He is more quick than fast though, so his 40 time will be interesting. gallon might not be a immediate impact but I can see him having a very good career for a team that won't give up on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Michael Lombardi ..... I hope he sleeps through all 3 days ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 It is a homer pick because I would love him on the Browns. At the same time though I think he has real potential in the slot, and I know OSU fans that agree with me and think he could be a sleeper. I think taking him late is less of a homer reach then taking Hyde in the 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl15 Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 It is a homer pick because I would love him on the Browns. At the same time though I think he has real potential in the slot, and I know OSU fans that agree with me and think he could be a sleeper. I think taking him late is less of a homer reach then taking Hyde in the 2nd now that I disagree with. If TBITCH was a #3 overall then Hyde is easily a 2nd rounder. Homer pick?? Yea probably but he is exactly what the Browns need to balance Dion Lewis. If the Browns ain't lookin at Hyde they ain't lookin for another rb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Jared Abbrederis. I'm pretty big on Abbrederis as well as LaDamian Washington out of Mizzou. Washington is an even bigger sleeper currently projected as a sixth round pick for being raw, but he has the size and speed to be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 Sleeper? Projected outside of top 3 or 4 at their position, and outside of the 1st round (by most), but have the makings of a pro bowler... I've watched a lot of college football this year, so here goes nothing... I like Abbrederis too, but I also like... Odell Beckham Jr. - WR - LSU - great hands, and playmaking ability... undervalued in my opinion Stanley Jean-Baptiste - CB - Nebraska - great size, fits the mold of the bigger corner... had a good Senior Bowl Marion Grice - RB - AZ St - watched him play twice this year, and I was impressed. Great receiver too Spencer Long - G - Nebraska - All-Big Ten in 2011, missed almost all of 2013 with a torn ACL.. could be a steal Shayne Skov - ILB - Stanford - great physical specimin. He fits the bill for any aggressive D with his speed... nice list, I'm all in on Stanley Jean-Baptiste, bring him to Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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