Orion

Finally....done with the horrble DW deal I cannot argue that to this point it's been a bad deal. The league suspended him for 11 games, robbing us of season 1. Then he hurt himself while trying to run over defensive players, robbing us of season 2. We fans don't give much of a crap about the money he's being paid (though it affects the salary cap)...but we do care about not having three 1st round picks AND not having him able to play in games. Having said that, I had soured on Mayfield. I felt like he wasn't good enough and that we were stuck with him. There was nobody in sight to draft...even if we traded to the top of the draft. Therefore, I felt that the Browns brain-trust felt the same as I did. So, I cannot fault them for doing it. I can say that I'm disappointed in how horrible the trade has been to this point. I can blame the league and Roger GoToHell for changing the original ruling from 6 to 11 games of suspension. I can blame Watson for acting like a dope and taking on tacklers instead of sliding. But I can't blame them for doing the deal. Finally, the fact is that the deal IS NOT done. We still have the QB. The 'deal' marches on for as long as we have Watson. But we're already 2 years in the hole. He's going to have to be a better QB than Mayfield was for the next several years for the deal to be deemed beneficial.

Actually, my 'agree to a degree' response wasn't aimed at the Zinter pick...but at your comment about later round players probably not even making the team. I think that in the late rounds your draft philosophy is more fluid. You might draft a guy because he's quite athletic...and you're going to try and coach him up into a good NFL player (as Tia mentioned here somewhere). Or maybe you decide just to throw bodies at position(s) of need. It's much the same for the undrafted guys that you reach out to. All of these guys are players that you want to get to know and evaluate. Even though they may not make the team, you may need some of them during the season when position(s) get decimated with injuries. You may end up ringing up a few of them to join your practice squad...and eventually maybe need one or two on your 53 before January rolls around. Or you'll have to pluck one or two from practice squads around the league. The more of those late round guys that you draft (and acquire post-draft) that turn into real football players, is the more money that you don't have to spend in FA next season. Currently, we have a 1st round pick the next time they hold the draft.

Teach him how to handle a snap and have him do the QB sneaks. John Kelly's replacement on the PS?

OL – Javion Cohen, Miami

Seems like ya have to draft a CB each and every year. Unwritten rule.

Yeah, nothin' wrong with that name. C'mon Thrash! Give 'em a Thrashing!!

Well...I wanted a WR...so...I got one. Get him to the weight room, and don't forget the hand isometrics. I still want a pass catching TE.

Of course, we don't get to play in today's round 1. Fifty five players will be selected before we get to partake.

I agree to a degree. In the later rounds your drafting players that you think could help you. Just like after the draft. You've already got your ideas on who you'd like to sign once the draft ends and the remaining players become free agents. I said back in February that, for a change, we're a BPA team. We don't have a roster full of glaring needs right now. Yes, I wanted to target a WR and a pass catching TE. But that's because I'm acting as a fan...and not a GM. With no 1st round pick we HAVE TO be successful with our 2nd & 3rd round picks...and to me that means NO REACHING. Take the best darned player available. (obviously we wouldn't pick a QB at that point in the draft) You can target positions in the later rounds of the draft if ya want since basically many of those guys are just glorified free agents....but the obvious goal is to find the players of good value to add to your team. As a season wears on and players get hurt, it's the teams that did a good job of acquiring those glorified free agents that continue to fill injury holes and keep on winning.

It's a good spot for a G pick. But I saw that he was ranked 4th round. We don't have a 4th rounder so I guess we'd just take him in the 3rd.

We'll see what happens in the upcoming #85 pick, but some days ago I said that I didn't think that this was the year that they would invest in an OT early. I was thinking day 3 for a chance on a OT.

Schwartz gets another guy!

Yeah, it's a pipe dream. Perhaps Sanders the TE that I wanted. edit - missed him by 2 pick slots.

Today & tomorrow mark step 2 of the process, the draft. Step 1 is FA. And at the conclusion of the draft we go back to step 1 to sign undrafted free agents.

I would like Adonai Mitchell, Texas please. - Pats need wr.