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5 teams with a better game plan than Ryan Daylight-Savings already knew how to beat Missedagain. Ryan's 60 minutes of football kicks in after his team blows off the 1st 60 minutes. For example, they didn't start kicking ass until the visitors wanted to plant some ugly flag promoting asterisks. I think they were playing Christmas songs over the loud speaker. Could have sworn I heard "Deck the scumbags with the asterisks fa la la la la la la la la." FWIW, it's a good thing the Asterisks didn't have to play the Division III National Champions from Cortland last year!!! 😁

I think we're still pretty much in agreement about Winston. The bone-headed mistakes from this veteran QB I speak of are when he throws the ball late into well covered receivers/areas. These types of ill-advised throws make one prone to high volumes of interceptions and pick 6s (especially on the out routes - usually more common with inexperienced QBs). Coincidently, Winston has a lot of INTs and pick 6s. Because of all the positives he brings that this team needs (leadership, positivity and sense of humor), I cut him a little more slack than I have give other QBs that have bone-headed tendencies. If Winston can keep that down to 1 or 2 - the Browns can win in spite of it; especially if he's also slinging TD passes. Not a hard guy to root for unless he has one of those games where he's his biggest enemy all day. I'd love to see them making snow angels in Pittsburgh this week. And YES, as you know over the years I've had a tendency to share HOF QB Terry Bradshaw's stats over his 1st 4-6 years to show fans sometimes very good QBs have longer learning curves than others. This era isn't nearly as patient considering how much everything counts on great performance and consistency from QBs.

I've heard quite a few of his former teammates in New Orleans really miss those things you speak about above Nicks. With the reality that Watson isn't the same 2 time Pro Bowl QB he was in Houston - Winston has been a fun distraction to it all. I watch him with a different criteria than I would give other QBs that have bone headed tendencies. With him, I know they're gonna happen so I give him a quota of 1-2 (depending on how good the opponent is). If he can stay to that - he can help us win.

Shhhhhh... There's only about 359 days left until we can exceed the church mice decibels...

I hear ya! This is definitely the sequel. That year he threw for over 5000 yards and 33 TDs (with perimeter toys such as Mike Evans & Chris Godwin) - he still threw 30 INTs that fans remembered more. I'm sure you remember some of those were pick 6s late in the game. As outrageous as this sounds, I didn't expect to be pleasantly surprised by what he adds to the locker room/team leadership. There's been some fun mixed into the frustration to keep the guys from thinking why bother - even if it includes a "don't do as I do - just do what I say" scenario. He DID help the Browns beat the 2 most hated rivals in the division. We've been at this long enough to know that football seasons in Cleveland prepared us for the bi-polarcoaster rides.

Sounds like fun Nicks! Looking forward to hearing about it all when you get back. Just in case, bring this with you -

So you held all that stuff hostage all the way until Ohio State beat themselves for you? I could just see you pouting. "I wanted Michigan to beat them - not themselves. This sucks Barbie's milkers!!!"

Poor guy is in love and Ghoolie barely knows he exists. Watch how hard he tries when Ghoolie returns. It's adorable! 😁

He's been trying to suck up to Ghoolie forever while pretending he likes the Browns (except for Myles Garrett of course - gee, why would that be?) Anytime you see a cyber tough guy in the land of nobody can see what he looks like - it's easy to see why he needs Ghoolie's emotional rescue/protection. Once upon a time in Nashville, I was challenged to a fight on this message board by Ghoolie when the Browns were in town for the weekend. Guess which one of us showed up to the fight when Hoorta and Gipper were in town for the game? I'll give you a hint - it wasn't him. And Gorka, or whatever your screen name is now - nobody needed to accuse Ghoolie of beating his lady because he took care of that all by himself on a PUBLIC message board. Without the confession and substances of choice that inspired him to make such an announcement after midnight - you wouldn't have to be looking so hard to invent a bad guy here. That said, when he makes his comments about wives of people in here - it's game on man for any applicable reminders! Having said all that I'm sure @Horse Balls (that was the lifetime Mod Atenears selected to run his board) would be happy to fill you in on how well your super hero played nice with others. To Ghoolie's credit though, I haven't seen him embrace you yet. You might want to ask Cal if you can borrow his knee pads or see if Elon Muskrat has a few dollars you can borrow. And to think, I was actually trying to refrain from posting in this thread.

The scary thing is he and Chip Kelly looked liked like the only 2 people in Columbus that didn't know Michigan has the best tandem of DTs in the country. That was a 5 loss team so there were things to exploit those 2 Coaches didn't research and prepare for at all. The REAL Coaches here that won National Championships in the new millennium were able to beat Michigan repeatedly. Day is more like Cooper where the season ends the week before the rivalry both guys weren't wired to handle.

I don't know if I want to see this team in the playoffs after that. The size of the fight in the Dawg seemed restricted by a choke chain leash. I wonder if Mike Vrable will the next HC...

We were typing the that at the same time.

Ya think? It was so bad Michigan DESERVED to win that game. Better game plan by at least 10 country miles. "Yeah today we're going to repeatedly attack one of the best DT tandems in the country with a make shift line around injuries. Piece of cake." That was a team with 5 losses and some of those weren't that close or the point spread wouldn't have been as big as it was. I had a post about 2-3 months ago in our college football threads somewhere when I said the biggest difference between Ohio State and Michigan is in the trenches/LOS. If short term memory serves me right, Michigan had a sizable advantage in rushing yardage yesterday. Not only that, Michigan was the team playing to their strengths comfortably while Ohio State always seemed to be forced into situations they weren't comfortable with. That's on HC Ryan All-Day. Yeah, I hyphenated his name. If that's not enough, they might want to look for a place kicker that can execute the only thing he's there to do. This is what my best friend (Chris Graziano)and former Captain of our varsity football team had to say about the game as a Michigan fan: "Ohio State plays different in this game than the others. The HC doubts his his talent. Urban Meyer never did that."

That's okay - it would be boring if we agreed all the time so I'll settle for 97% of the time. Some good points; but I think Ohio State got screwed against Georgia in the BCS playoffs a couple years ago. We never even saw a reply of a head trauma to Marvin Harrison that ended his game (free of flags I might add). This wasn't long after Harrison put Ohio State up by 14 points. Kirby Smart, right after Georgia got a side-line warning flag that doesn't penalize any yardage (just an official we're gonna penalize you if you do it again). He tested that entire sequel of OT sessions and not 1 official had the guts to to throw the next flag for the guy being on the field. I could be wrong Dutch - but I get the feeling it's more important for the SEC to be superior especially in places like UGA or BAMA so Georgia seems like the Big Hope for that conference this year (after they boat-raced Texas off the field). Nobody really cares about the ACC and Clemson has fallen off the map of elite teams to beat. OR, maybe it's just obvious I really wanted to see Georgia bounced from the playoffs with a 3rd loss...

And watching Georgia go 8 sessions deep into OT with Georgia Tech's injury depleted secondary yesterday to escape with a win will overrate them way up the rankings as well. After a while, each new session of OT was just 2 point conversion attempt attempts. If you didn't watch, Kirby Smart called time-out every single time Ga Tech lined up in formation. Every single Time it was GA Tech's turn. They gotta change that when they get as far as the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th OT. Again, I say that when the length of each session in just a 2 point attempt for each team. I am NOT a Georgia Bulldog fan at all. IMO, Kirby Smart coming over there from Alabama's staff gives them that same stench of what are they really getting away with. I'd be willing to bet they're getting away with a lot of the same things Michigan is finally getting busted with; and probably much more-so.