choco

corbett can be cut at this point and it wouldn't matter, except to the contingent hell bent on criticizing for the sake of criticizing.

in no reality, ever, anywhere, is the worth of a RG anywhere near a pass rusher.  

seriously...a right frickin guard

21 hours ago, The Gipper said:

Hmm....that was the same argument that Vagitroll made about Landry...

Mahomes had 4955 yds on 583 attempts, 385 completions, 66.0%

Ben had 5008 yds on 689 attempts, 459 completions, 66.6%

"Threw for 5000 yards" has no context is really all i mean...this is the difference in efficiency, and i consider this much more important when trying to compare players.  Mahomes had very similar production on 74 less completions.  Thats only the first layer of the onion.

  Vag doesn't know how to lay out a coherent argument. 

Again, 5000 yards means fukall. Ben also led the league in interceptions. Bulk yardage stats are misleading.

And what does the system have to do with these ratings? No correlation that I see....

He's ignoring the browns?

Wut? You sure your not projecting again?

Dude played 9 years for a doormat team, who thanked him by releasing him. Once money is made, what's wrong with wanting a ring?

Ben threw for over 5000 yards, sure...but he also had far more attempts than anyone else. His efficiency numbers are average, and I don't think 13 games is enough to draw definitive conclusions. It's positive it's even a discussion tho, as baker looks the part early...which is the salient point. 👍

Saw 250k guaranteed, 1m base, +4m incentives, shefter tweet iirc? I don't Twitter's, just see them posted by others.

Then I think about how many times he was dragged down on the way to many other sacks. 

Collins signed for a lil more than vet minimum, very incentive laden 1yr deal. 

22 hours ago, Zombo said:

Yes, he is a former right tackle for the Browns too.

Zombo

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Hubbard's getting the Schwartz treatment from fans

On 5/8/2019 at 8:14 AM, Zombo said:

Where is the love for Chris Hubbard? Really played well down the stretch.

Zombo

Mitchell Schwartz

kinda what i was thinking mud...keep it simple, get good at 2 moves, then start adding more.  better to be very good at a few things than ok at many.

thats alot of words, most of which are projections and rambling...lol..like, GW is 'arrogant' as a reason for this decision.  not trying to bash ya c4l...but thats it?  arrogance?  you think that the level of nuance here?  

Doubtful his future is at tackle with those t-rex arms

1 hour ago, darren15 said:

If the trade is Duke for McCoy we are going to need a 3rd running back after Chubb and Hilliard until Hunt returns

Lotta folks seem to be high on Darren hall

1 hour ago, tiamat63 said:

Are we willing to pay a larger price for a rotational player/part time starter? 

provided the cap implications do not prevent the team from signing one of the core draftees, i dont see why not. as dorsey said recently..."cant have too many good football players".  richardson and ogun cant play every snap...someone else has to play significant snaps, and current options are coley, thomas, price, smith, or davis.  mccoy carries no dead money hit, so they can always cut bait if needed. 

consistent pressure from the front four will make this defense very formidable.  

6 hours ago, hoorta said:

The bold says it all.... 

This was discussed on Red Zone tonight Po.  This isn't Madden. Besides the age factor, McCoy is scheduled to make $13 million this year. We're not gonna cough up that much dough for a guy who would be a rotational player.  It would completely blow the cap to trade for him. Looking at Spotrac, the Jags can flat out cut him ($0 dead cap), so if that comes to pass we can make him an offer on a one year deal, keep Duke, and probably pay him less than 1\2 of his current contract.  PS, the bane of Colt McCoy (Ndamukong Suh) is still out there as a FA- apparently he's not willing to work cheap.      

duke getting 5m this year, so it'd be an offset of 8m to have, literally, the best DL in the league.  even at 31 he graded out very well last year, and as part of a rotation his usage should decrease a bit helping with health and longevity.  ogun played injured for 6 games last year, out of necessity.  that cannot happen again.

1 hour ago, tiamat63 said:

Curious as to how the log jam at interior Dline would play out in Mr Doerschuk's mind.

Those big guys can wear down after playing 19 games...solid rotation to keep them fresh 😉

9 hours ago, Tour2ma said:

Nah... but we need to actually win games.

 

 

And since they can't play games till August, let's allow people to be a lil excited. Because it's not like it's been decades or anything....

So I guess we need an entire squad of all pros to be considered contenders?

5 hours ago, hoorta said:

5 hours ago, hoorta said:

^^ it's totally a different era from the days of Paul & Jim Brown, and Warfield. I do understand Nickers feelings about a guy who for all the world looks like a Diva Showboat. This looks good on paper, but September is a long way off. Cautiously optimistic. 

I do to...reading back, sure seems like I don't. sorry nic ...I only find the level of disgust disproportionate to the offense. Odell's been a huge asshole, but to not consider the why ... Would rather others draw your own conclusions, have mine. 

I guess I understand the differing opinions...but the browns are trying to win a Superb fuking Owl....like, right now...

Probly won't work .... But damn.... No hope in 20+ years and you can't get behind this? 

Sorry, don't care about your, or Paul browns ancient opinion on how players should act today. I'll be over here happy the browns have players to compete while you wallow in losing with dignity.

4 minutes ago, nickers said:

nothing.. I have a problem with divas...

so youd rather lose with quior boys then?  isn't that the past 20+ years being a browns fan?

48 minutes ago, nickers said:

He is a basket case we did NOT need!

what do you have against winning?