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Like I said, “very painful”.
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I have a very bad feeling this is going to be painful, even for a preseason game.
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The only intelligent commentary here has come from SDbacker and Zombo and yes I know how crazy that statement sounds.
So many of you are so quick to jump onto the bandwagon of hating Baker. You would rather tear down your own team to satisfy your urge to virtue signal and “fit in” than acknowledge the fact that this entire season, not just for the Browns, has been a shit show.
At the end of the day all that matters is our boys are in the thick of the AFC North title race. This division is so tightly contested that any one of the four teams could run the table and take the division crown. This team has demonstrated some resilience, and now it’s football weather time in our neck of the woods. Our team Is built from the ground up to make these sorts of late season, ground and pound close out runs. Health is the KEY!
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Empty, thoughtless, jibber jabber from Dutch and Orion. I imagine you both distinctly resemble in voice the adults from Charlie Brown.
In my opinion, your whining disqualifies you from enjoying our football team after so much suffering.
Good day sirs *tips hat*
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10 minutes ago, Bob806 said:
I was at the game. The booing was directed at the offense in general, not Baker. Yeah, that's my OPINION.
While I don't endorse booing the home team, I can see why it happens. The only time I was ever pissed at our fanbase is when some cheered the Tim Couch injury-totally uncalled for.
We fans have waited an awfully long time for success. Seems to me that with the taste of success last year, (and the teasing of the 7-8-1 season followed by the 2019 dud) fans rightfully expected another step forward this season. Through 11 games, there's been glimpses of great team play, but overall just mediocrity @6-5. Yeah, they blew the Chiefs game and the refs handed the LAC a W.
Fans forget that the Browns were blessed with a healthy offense last year virtually all season. The D, especially the secondary, got hit hard with injuries. You can boo all you want, but I don't think any team can survive the amount of injuries the Browns have incurred on offense this year.
Does it look good now? Nope, BUT there's 6 games to go. Let's see how it plays out.
Go Browns.
I am deeply opposed to explaining away our record, but I bold/underlined what I think is the two most important parts of this season. Two swings, one involving some luck and the other the refs not stealing the game from us, this banged up, bruised up, battered team is freakin 8-3.
Food for thoughts, all I’m saying.
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11 minutes ago, nickers said:
My big problem though is it looks like Stef is still learning on the job
Again, I feel you severely lack perspective my friend. I’ll take learning on the job over the washed up, irrelevant coaches and front offices just here for the paycheck, the journeyman veterans at QB that came here for the same, the “absolutely no one would make that pick at QB” EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DRAFT, the constant QB room drama, endless losing, and absolutely mindless tearing down of my team every two to three years.
we have a football team. It is hurt, struggling, but my sweet Jesus IT IS NOT WHAT WE ENDURED FOR TWO DECADES!
THATS MY QB! THATS MY COACH!
GO BROWNS.
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1 minute ago, calfoxwc said:
Tim Couch - the stupid coaches - the offensive line was toast. They played so bad, I was convinced they deliberately
let Couch get the absolute hell beaten out of him because they wanted the veteran whatshisname in there.
To go even further than just the QB misery Cal, and you touched on it, the COACHES! HOLY SHIT! Let's list them too for everyone in their sorry state of sadness over where our team is this year, battling insurmountable injuries at our most important position groups:
Chris Palmer
Term: 1999-2000
Record: 5-27Chris Palmer was tasked with leading the Browns in their return to the NFL. He didn’t have any pro head coaching experience, and went 2-14 and 3-13 in two seasons. He went on to serve as offensive coordinator for the Houston Texas and Tennessee Titans. Most recently, Palmer was an offensive assistant under Rex Ryan for the Buffalo Bills until 2016.
A close up Head Coach Chris Palmer of the Cleveland Browns looking on during the Pre-Season game against the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wisconsin. The Packers defeated the Browns 34-33. (Mandatory Credit: Jonathan Daniel /Allsport via Getty)
Butch Davis
Term: 2001-2004
Record: 24-34Butch Davis resigned after nearly four years with the Browns. He dealt with a quarterback controversy when he started backup Kelly Holcomb for an injured Tim Couch, then kept Holcomb in the starting role. Davis is the only coach on this list to lead the Browns in a playoff game. Cleveland lost in the 2002 Wild Card game to the Steelers, 33-36. He later returned to coaching at the collegiate level, at North Carolina and FIU.
Head coach Butch Davis of the Cleveland Browns yells during the game against the Cincinnati Bengals at Paul Brown Stadium on November 28, 2004 in Cincinnati, Ohio. The Bengals defeated the Browns 58-48. (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)
Terry Robiskie
Term: 2004
Record: 1-5Terry Robiskie started his NFL career as a running back. He was on the Raiders and Redskins coaching staffs, before becoming the Browns wide receivers coach, then offensive coordinator. The Browns named him interim head coach following Butch Davis’ departure. Robiskie interviewed to be the permanent head coach, but the Browns went with Romeo Crennel. Robiskie remained on the Browns staff until 2007. For the next several seasons, he was the wide receivers coach for the Atlanta Falcons, where he was credited with helping to develop Julio Jones and Roddy White. He spent this season as running backs coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Terry Robiskie, head coach of the Cleveland Browns stands on the sidelines against the Buffalo Bills on December 12, 2004 at Ralph Wilson Stadium in Orchard Park, New York. The Bills defeated the Browns 37-7.(Photo by Rick Stewart/Getty Images)
Romeo Crennel
Term: 2005-2008
Record: 24-40Romeo Crennel first worked for the Browns as defensive coordinator in 2000. The following season, he coached under Bill Belichick at the New England Patriots. Crennel returned to Cleveland as head coach in 2005. He led the Browns to a 10-6 record in 2007, their second winning-record since returning to the league in 1999. But the team failed to make the playoffs. Browns owner Randy Lerner fired him soon after getting ride of general manager Phil Savage. Crennel got another head coaching gig with the Kansas City Chiefs. Since 2018, he’s served as assistant coach and defensive coordinator of the Houston Texans.
Head coach Romeo Crennel of the Cleveland Browns watches the action from the sidelines during the game against the Buffalo Bills at Ralph Wilson Stadium on November 17, 2008 in Orchard Park, New York. (Photo by: Rick Stewart/Getty Images)
Eric Mangini
Term: 2009-2010
Record: 10-22Eric Mangini began his coaching career under Bill Belichick (Noticing a theme here?) at the Cleveland Browns. The two reunited in New England and then, in 2009, Mangini became the next head coach of the Browns. During his time in Cleveland, he handled a lengthy list of starting quarterbacks: Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, Jake Delhomme, Seneca Wallace and Colt McCoy. The 2010 season was the year of running back Peyton Hillis. (What a time to be alive.) Like other coaches of Cleveland’s past, Mangini found other NFL jobs. He was a tight ends coach and defensive coordinator for the San Francisco 49ers. And don’t forget, he’s a three-time Super Bowl champion.
Head coach Eric Mangini of the Cleveland Browns watches as his team takes on the Chicago Bears at Soldier Field on November 1, 2009 in Chicago, Illinois. The Bears defeated the Browns 30-6. (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)
Pat Shurmur
Term: 2011-2012
Record: 9-23For those keeping track, the Browns had a 64-129 record until this point. And we’re about to pick up the pace. Pat Shurmur worked his way from college coaching to the NFL, and in 2011, then-Browns president Mike Holmgren named him the new head coach. Ahead of his second season, Cleveland selected running back Trent Richardson and quarterback Brandon Weeden in the first round of the 2012 NFL Draft. (Man, this was a odd time to be a Browns fan.) But that didn’t jumpstart the team’s offense. The Browns fired Shurmur and general manager Tom Heckert as they headed into the Jimmy Haslam era of ownership. Shurmur was recently fired by the New York Giants.
Head Coach Pat Shurmur of the Cleveland Browns looks on during pre-game warm ups before playing the Oakland Raiders at Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum on December 2, 2012 in Oakland, California. (Photo by Thearon W. Henderson/Getty Images)
Rob Chudzinski
Term: 2013
Record: 4-12It was one and done for this Ohio native. He was the Browns tight ends coach in 2004, and the offensive coordinator from 2007 to 2008. So it was a shock when the man who said he’s a, “Cleveland Brown to the core” was fired as head coach. He spent the following four seasons with the Indianapolis Colts.
Head coach head coach Rob Chudzinski of the Cleveland Browns stands on the sidelines before the game against the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field on October 20, 2013 in Green Bay, Wisconsin. (Photo by Brian Kersey/Getty Images)
Mike Pettine
Term: 2014-2015
Record: 10-22Mike Pettine was the defensive coordinator for the New York Jets, then the Buffalo Bills before coming to Cleveland. But the Browns continued their trend of finishing fourth in the AFC North. The Browns fired Pettine and general manager Ray Farmer, who drafted Johnny Manziel. This is marks the rise of Sashi Brown. Don’t worry about Pettine. He’s settled nicely into his current role as defensive coordinator of the Green Bay Packers.
Head coach Mike Pettine of the Cleveland Browns watches from the sidelines during the first half against the Cincinnati Bengals at FirstEnergy Stadium on December 6, 2015 in Cleveland, Ohio. (Photo by Jason Miller/Getty Images)
Hue Jackson
Term: 2016-2018
Record: 3-36On paper, Hue Jackson seemed like a decent choice to be the next head coach of the Cleveland Browns. He had an extensive career at the collegiate level before making the jump to the NFL as running backs coach with the Washington Redskins. He worked for years with the Cincinnati Bengals, helping along the wide receiver duo of Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmanzadeh. As Browns head coach, the team had a winless season and a .088 winning percentage. Jackson was let go midseason. Things got a little heated when the Bengals brought him on as a special assistant to the head coach.
Head coach Hue Jackson of the Cleveland Browns before the game against the Baltimore Ravens at FirstEnergy Stadium on October 7, 2018 in Cleveland, Ohio. (Photo by Jason Miller/Getty Images)
Greg Williams
Term: 2018
Record: 5-3Greg Williams became infamous for his involvement in the New Orleans Saints bounty scandal. He even received an indefinite suspension from the league in 2012. He bounced around the NFL, from the Rams to the Titans to the Rams again, then ended up the defensive coordinator for the Browns in 2017. He became interim head coach after the Browns fired Hue Jackson and offensive coordinator Todd Haley. Williams’ 5-3 record doesn’t look too bad about now, does it? He’s the only one with an average over .500.
Head coach Gregg Williams of the Cleveland Browns looks on prior to the game against the Kansas City Chiefs at FirstEnergy Stadium on November 4, 2018 in Cleveland, Ohio. (Photo by Kirk Irwin/Getty Images)
Freddie Kitchens
Term: 2019
Record: 6-10It was easy to like Freddie Kitchens at first. Especially with lines like, “If you don’t wear brown and orange, you don’t matter.” He got us and Browns fans love a guy who gets us. But “getting us” only gets you so far. Kitchens worked his way up through the Arizona Cardinals organization before coming to Cleveland as the running backs coach. When the Browns axed Hue Jackson and Todd Haley, Kitchens got a big promotion to offensive coordinator. He also got a lot of credit for helping Baker Mayfield with his rookie season. So much credit that he was named head coach. Between the poor clock management, questionable play design and even worse play callings, it’s no surprise Kitchens was fired after one season.
Head coach Freddie Kitchens of the Cleveland Browns looks on from the sidelines during the first half of the NFL football game against the Arizona Cardinals at State Farm Stadium on December 15, 2019 in Glendale, Arizona. (Photo by Ralph Freso/Getty Images)
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I invite you over to mi casa so I can completely tear your labrum, fracture your clavicle, and bust up your knee real good. Then I am going to strap football pads and a helmet on you, and send your stupid ass out on the field to get hit by NFL players. Then, and only then, will you have a relevant perspective as to what Baker is facing each and every snap.The absolute short sightedness, the complete loss of memory of what we have endured for 20 years at the most important position in football. TO BOO A GUY, DURING A GAME, WHO IS OUT THERE GIVING IT ALL! I am starting to run out of words. Here I'll list the names again:
Tim Couch, 1999-2003
Tim Couch wasn’t the answer in Cleveland. | Getty Images
Tim Couch didn’t start the very first game when the Browns returned to the NFL, but he was the future of the franchise on that day. Couch ended up with the Browns for five seasons, and then was out of the league before his 27th birthday. For his career, the Browns No. 1 overall pick back in 1999 recorded 64 touchdowns, 67 interceptions, and a 75.1 passer rating. In 2002, Couch led the team to its one and only playoff appearance since coming back to the NFL — but was unable to play in the game due to injury.
Key stats: 59 starts, 64 TD, 67 INT, 75.1 rating
2. Ty Detmer, 1999
The quarterback that did start the opener in that 1999 season was Ty Detmer. In that game, Detmer was just 6-for-13 passing with an interception and 52 yards before Cleveland turned to Couch in the 43-0 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Detmer had been brought in primarily as a mentor to the young Couch, and he served that purpose. He threw four touchdowns, two picks, and a 75.7 passer rating in his only season with the team.
Key stats: 2 starts, 4 TD, 2 INT, 75.7 rating
Next: A Super Bowl winner.
3. Doug Pederson, 2000
Doug Pederson played one season in Cleveland. | Getty Images
Before he was known as the head coach of the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles, Doug Pederson was an NFL quarterback. He spent most of his career in Green Bay as Brett Favre’s backup, but joined the Browns in 2000 and made eight starts. Pederson recorded seven touchdowns, nine interceptions, and a 62.9 passer rating that year in Cleveland and then promptly returned to Green Bay to spend four more years backing up Favre.
Key stats: 8 starts, 2 TD, 8 INT, 56.6 rating
4. Spergon Wynn, 2000
There isn’t a whole lot of story to tell with Spergon Wynn. He went to collage at Texas St. and was a sixth-round draft choice of the Browns in 2000, just one year after they drafted Couch No. 1 overall. But Wynn started just one game (he appeared in seven total) in a Browns uniform that year, a 48-0 loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars. He was released after the season and made a brief appearance with the Minnesota Vikings before disappearing into obscurity.
Key stats: 1 start, 0 TD, 1 INT, 41.2 rating
Next: The Browns’ only playoff starter.
5. Kelly Holcomb, 2002-2004
Kelly Holcomb of the Cleveland Browns looks down in frustration. | Andy Lyons/Getty Images
Kelly Holcomb actually joined the Browns in 2001, appearing in one game but making zero starts. He primarily served as Couch’s backup during his time with the team, and actually started for the injured Couch in that one playoff game. Holcomb didn’t play poorly, going 26-for-43 passing with 429 passing yards, three touchdowns, and one interception. His career regular season marks with the team include 26 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, and an 83.3 passer rating.
Key stats: 12 starts, 26 TD, 21 INT, 83.3 rating
6. Jeff Garcia, 2004
Former Pro Bowler Jeff Garcia was the highest profile player to come to the Browns ever back when he signed in 2004. Unfortunately, Garcia unable to lift the team from its extended doldrums. The 34-year-old recorded just 10 touchdowns, nine interceptions, and a 76.7 passer rating in his only season. But he wasn’t exactly washed up. Garcia left and spent five more seasons in the NFL, including another trip to the Pro Bowl in 2007 with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Key stats: 10 starts, 10 TD, 9 INT, 76.7 rating
Next: One of the McCowns’.
7. Luke McCown, 2004
Quarterback Luke McCown of the Cleveland Browns is sacked by defensive end Chris Kelsay. | Rick Stewart/Getty Images
Luke isn’t the only McCown on this list, but more on that later. He was a fourth-round draft pick of Cleveland back in 2004, and as a rookie he was able to make four starts with the team. McCown posted just four touchdowns, seven interceptions, and a 52.6 rating in that time. After briefly disappearing from the league, he did go on to have a decent NFL career. McCown played 10 years in the league as a backup quarterback before eventually retiring at the age of 34.
Key stats: 4 starts, 4 TD, 7 INT, 52.6 rating
8. Trent Dilfer, 2005
Trent Dilfer is a fun trivia question, as the starting quarterback who led the Baltimore Ravens to a Super Bowl victory in 2000. He joined the Browns near the end of his career, starting 11 games in 2005. Dilfer threw for 11 touchdowns, 12 interceptions, and had a 76.9 passer rating to go along with a 4-7 record. He did not play at all the next season before wrapping up his career with the San Francisco 49ers in 2007.
Key stats: 11 starts, 11 TD, 12 INT, 76.9 rating
Next: A draft pick that fizzled out.
9. Charlie Frye, 2005-2007
Cleveland Browns rookie quarterback Charlie Frye threw for 198 yards and won his first NFL game with the Cleveland Browns. | Robert B. Stanton/NFLPhotoLibrary
Charlie Frye was a third-round pick of the Browns in 2005, and you may be noticing a pattern by this point. The Browns drafted a lot of quarterbacks. Frye spent three years in Cleveland, totaling 19 starts. He ultimately compiled 14 touchdown passes, 23 picks, and a 71.1 rating with the team. Frye played two more years in the league as a backup before retiring at 28 years old in 2009.
Key stats: 19 starts, 14 TD, 23 INT, 71.1 rating
10. Derek Anderson, 2006-2009
Although he was a journeyman for the majority of his career, Derek Anderson had one very solid season for the Browns. The 2007 season was Anderson’s first as the primary starter, and he finished the year with 29 touchdowns, 3,787 passing yards, and an 82.5 passer rating. He made the Pro Bowl and led Cleveland to a 10-6 record, although a tiebreaker cost them a chance at another trip to the playoffs. Like everyone that came before him, however, Anderson was not the long term solution for the Browns.
Key stats: 34 starts, 46 TD, 45 INT, 69.7 rating
Next: Another first round bust.
11. Brady Quinn, 2008-2009
Brady Quinn didn’t live up to the hype. | Andy Lyons/Getty Images
How could Cleveland lose with Brady Quinn? He seemed like a sure thing, an excellent quarterback coming out of an even better program at Notre Dame. The Browns took him with the No. 22 overall pick in 2007, and the results over his two-year stint as a starter were mostly underwhelming: 10 touchdowns, nine interceptions, and a 66.8 passer rating. The team was 3-9 in his 12 starts, and Quinn played his last NFL game in 2012.
Key stats: 12 starts, 10 TD, 9 INT, 66.8 rating
12. Ken Dorsey, 2008
Who can’t forget Ken Dorsey? This journeyman came to Cleveland in 2006 with little experience, having started 10 NFL games in the previous two seasons with the 49ers. He didn’t actually start a game until 2008, compiling zero touchdowns, seven interceptions, and a brutal 26.1 passer rating. That was bad enough that the former University of Miami star would never again appear in an NFL game.
Key stats: 3 starts, 0 TD, 7 INT, 26.1 rating
Next: A journeyman QB with a 2.8 passer rating.
13. Bruce Gradkowski, 2008
Bruce Gradkowski of the Cleveland Browns gets sacked by Andre Frazier of the Pittsburgh Steelers. | Gregory Shamus/Getty Images
Bruce Gradkowski is yet another journeyman quarterback to make a start for the Browns. He started 11 games as a rookie with the Buccaneers in 2006, and then just a total of nine starts the rest of his career. In his one season in Cleveland, Gradkowski made just one start (two appearances) in the last game of the year against the Steelers. He was 5-for-16 passing with 18 yards and two interceptions, so it’s no wonder he didn’t get another starting job after his showcase.
Key stats: 1 starts, 0 TD, 3 INT, 2.8 rating
14. Colt McCoy, 2010-2011
Colt McCoy was a third-round pick of the Browns in 2010 and ended up starting eight games as a rookie. He actually was the primary starter for the first two years of his career, but played his way out of the lineup by 2012. McCoy’s Cleveland career was one of constant battering behind a porous offensive line, making him the victim of 59 sacks in 24 total appearances. He had 21 touchdowns, 20 picks, and a 74.8 passer rating while there.
Key stats: 21 starts, 21 TD, 20 INT, 74.8 rating
Next: Another former Super Bowl quarterback.
15. Jake Delhomme, 2010
Jake Delhomme of the Cleveland Browns throws a first quarter pass. | Gregory Shamus/Getty Images
Jake Delhomme is better remembered for his time (and Super Bowl appearance) with the Carolina Panthers, but he did suit up for the Browns late in his career. Delhomme was a bit banged up by the time he rolled into Cleveland, and he ended up making just four starts, throwing two touchdowns and four interceptions. The 35-year-old made his way to the Houston Texans the following year, but he made no starts and just one appearance before retiring.
Key stats: 4 starts, 2 TD, 7 INT, 63.4 rating
16. Seneca Wallace, 2010-2011
Once the Seattle Seahawks had decided they were through with Seneca Wallace, the Cleveland Browns took a flyer on the 30-year-old. He played two uneventful seasons with the Browns, starting seven games and leading the team to a 1-6 record. It might be better to consult his receiving statistics, where Wallace was occasionally used effectively when split out wide. He caught two passes for 30 yards in his Browns career. As far as Wallace’s passing numbers with the Browns, however, he was perfectly average: six touchdowns, four picks, and a 76.6 passer rating.
Key stats: 7 starts, 6 TD, 4 INT, 76.6 rating
Next: Maybe the oldest true rookie ever?
17. Brandon Weeden, 2012-2013
Brandon Weeden speaks for all of us. | Jason Miller/Getty Images
Maybe the oldest true rookie of all time at the age of 29, the prospect of Brandon Weeden catching on as a starting NFL quarterback always seemed dubious. But the Browns drafted him with the No. 22 pick in the first round anyway, and Weeden ended up starting just 20 games over two seasons in Cleveland. He threw 23 touchdowns, 26 interceptions, and posted a 71.8 rating. Also, there was this beauty.
Key stats: 20 starts, 23 TD, 26 INT, 71.8 rating
18. Thad Lewis, 2012
Thad Lewis went undrafted and made his first appearance in the NFL at the age of 27, starting a game for the Browns in 2012. He actually didn’t play that poorly in the game, recording a touchdown, a pick, 204 yards passing, and an 83.3 passer rating. That earned Lewis a chance to hang on with the Buffalo Bills the following year, when he made five starts. But that was pretty much it for Lewis’ mostly-forgettable NFL career.
Key stats: 1 starts, 1 TD, 1 INT, 83.3 rating
Next: A backup that needed to start.
19. Jason Campbell, 2013
Jason Campbell of the Cleveland Browns prepares to throw against the New England Patriots. | Jim Rogash/Getty Images
Jason Campbell was a solid quarterback in the NFL. He was good enough to be an unspectacular starter, or at the very least a great backup. He came to the Browns in the starter role at the age of 32 in 2013, but by that time Campbell was definitively a backup and nothing more. His Browns totals reflect that, as Campbell posted 11 touchdowns, eight interceptions, and a 76.9 passer rating in eight starts.
Key stats: 8 starts, 11 TD, 8 INT, 76.9 rating
20. Brian Hoyer, 2013-2014
Brian Hoyer is a local guy, either loved or hated by Browns fans depending on their desire to see Johnny Football take the field. Hoyer started briefly in 2013 and then majority of 2014, ultimately recording 17 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, and a 77.6 passer rating. He left to play in Houston in 2015, backed up Jay Cutler in 2016, and went 0-6 in six starts with the 49ers in 2017. The 32-year-old signed a three-year deal with the Patriots in November of 2017.
Key stats: 16 starts, 17 TD, 16 INT, 77.6 rating
Next: Johnny Football.
21. Johnny Manziel, 2014-2015
Johnny Manziel didn’t work out in Cleveland. | Elsa/Getty Images
Johnny Manziel (AKA Johnny Football) was an extremely polarizing college football player. Jerry Jones badly wanted to draft him, despite already having Tony Romo in his prime. Jones passed, and the Browns took Manziel with the 22nd pick in 2014. Manziel would unfortunately be just another in a long line of quarterback failures in Cleveland, going 2-6 in his eight starts with seven touchdowns, seven interceptions, and a 74.4 passer rating. Alcohol (and legal) problems have ended his career already, barring a comeback in 2018.
Key stats: 8 starts, 7 TD, 7 INT, 74.4 rating
22. Connor Shaw, 2014
Who? Connor Shaw went undrafted and made one appearance in the NFL, starting a single game for the Cleveland Browns in 2014. The 23-year-old was not good, going 14-for-28 with 177 yards and an interception in a 20-10 loss to the Ravens. Assuming Shaw doesn’t come back and play in the NFL again — a possibility, as he’s only 26 — he will finish with a 55.2 passer rating.
Key stats: 1 starts, 0 TD, 1 INT, 55.2 rating
Next: The greatest in (modern) franchise history?
23. Josh McCown, 2015-2016
Josh McCown of the Cleveland Browns passes against the New York Jets. | Jeff Zelevansky/Getty Images
Josh McCown, as sad as this statement is, may just be the best Browns quarterback (since their NFL return in 1999) to start at least 11 games for the team. He started eight games in 2015, posting a 93.3 passer rating with 2,109 yards, 12 touchdowns, and four interceptions. The 36-year-old wasn’t quite as good the following year, starting just three games for Cleveland. McCown finished his Browns career with a 1-10 record in his 11 starts but with an 85.7 rating.
Key stats: 11 starts, 18 TD, 10 INT, 85.7 rating
24. Austin Davis, 2015
Austin Davis started eight games for the St. Louis Rams in 2014, compiling an 85.1 passer rating with 12 touchdowns to nine interceptions. So there was some optimism when the Browns picked him up as a backup heading into the 2015 season. The optimism was misplaced. Davis started two games for the Browns, throwing one touchdown, three interceptions, and putting up a 66.2 passer rating. In 2017, he was on the Seahawks’ roster as a backup to Russell Wilson.
Key stats: 2 starts, 1 TD, 3 INT, 66.2 rating
Next: An injury-plagued disappointment.
25. Robert Griffin III, 2016
Quarterback Robert Griffin III of the Cleveland Browns looks to pass against the Philadelphia Eagles. | Rich Schultz/Getty Images
The signing of Robert Griffin III seemed doomed from the start in Cleveland. Although Griffin had been excellent as a rookie with the Washington Redskins, he was injury prone and had started to decline by the time the Browns picked him up. Griffin was healthy for just five games during his stint in Cleveland, going 1-4 with two touchdowns, three interceptions, and a 72.5 passer rating. He did not play in the 2017 season, and it’s unknown what the future holds for Griffin in the NFL.
Key stats: 5 starts, 2 TD, 3 INT, 72.5 rating
26. Cody Kessler, 2016
With Griffin missing the bulk of the year, 2016 third-round draft pick Cody Kessler stepped in to start eight games for the 2016 Browns. He actually wasn’t bad at all, and in two seasons with the team has thrown six touchdowns with three interceptions and a 87.4 passer rating. Kessler is coming into the final two years of his four-year contract, and time will tell what his future looks like in the NFL.
Key stats: 8 starts, 6 TD, 3 INT, 87.4 rating
Next: An awful second-round pick.
28. DeShone Kizer, 2017
Quarterback DeShone Kizer of the Cleveland Browns passes. | Jason Miller/Getty Images
DeShone Kizer was the second-round draft pick of the Browns in 2017, and he started 15 of the team’s 16 games in his rookie year. Kizer led the NFL with 22 interceptions, posting a putrid 60.5 passer rating. The experiment with Kizer has likely come to an end, being that Cleveland has traded for quarterback Tyrod Taylor and is expected to draft another QB with the No. 1 overall pick in 2018.
Key stats: 15 starts, 11 TD, 22 INT, 60.5 rating
28. Kevin Hogan, 2017
The other quarterback that spent time under center in 2017 was Kevin Hogan. He started the one game that Kizer didn’t play, starting against the Houston Texans in Week 6. That was his last appearance of the season with the Browns, but he did have a solid season. Over his last two games, Hogan was 36-for-56 passing with three touchdowns and four interceptions. It’s unclear what, if any, future he has with the Browns.
Key stats: 1 starts, 4 TD, 7 INT, 61.5 rating
THIS LIST OMITS CASE KEENUM AND TYROD TAYLOR!
ENOUGH SAID.
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Just now, Tour2ma said:
ANd I won a SB starting JFF so there!
So playcalling, too... If I had to guess, I'd guess OBJ's targets are deeper than those of our other WRs.Add that most of our short-threats are nicked up and that's a bad combo.
Praying the deluge of sarcasm was comprehended, Tour.
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LoOk gUyS i PlAy mAdDeN. AND I CAN TELL YOU OBJ IS BALLIN IN MADDEN SO ITS BAKER'S FAULT AND REAL OBJS FAULT. THEY SHOULD PERFORM MORE LIKE THEIR STATISTICAL APPROXIMATIONS.
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Like the old Great Gatski said, STATEMENT WIN. Scrumptious Viking snacks!
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This has to be our first statement win of the season boys. As crazy as it is to consider, our offense still has not been fully realized. And last week provided our defense with the ego and confidence they need to snack and sack. This should be interesting.
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Many had him as the top CB in the draft. Amazing value mid 2nd round. There's our defense. We need a LB or two for competition, but we are ready to boogie.
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Let's go baby!
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7 minutes ago, Dutch Oven said:
Similar to Catholics who refuse to listen to any Michael Jackson songs anymore?
Daaaaammmnn son 😂😂 goddamn burnnnnn
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We have OBJ, Landry, and Calloway/Perriman/Higgins at WR. We have Nick Chubb and Kareem hunt at running back. We have a solid offensive line even without Zeitler. On defense, we have Ward and Damarious Randall in the secondary. We have Pro bowl Schobert at middle linebacker. Kirksey at OLB, formidable himself. We have the up and coming Gernard Avery who is a pass rush specialist at OLB as well. Our defensive line SO FAR into this young off season features newly acquired Pro Bowlers Sheldon Richardson and Olivier Vernon, at DT and DE respectively. Add them to our homegrown badasses Larry Ogunjobi and Myles fucking Garrett. Then we have Smith and Oghbah as subs. Your smoking drugs if you don't think were building a juggernaut. Oh and I forgot the best part, BAKER MOTHERFUCKING MAYFIELD.
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🏈 Official Preseason Game Thread: Browns at Jaguars.
in THE BROWNS BOARD
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Jerome Ford is a tank. Emerson looks like a great pick for our secondary. We can definitely say our 2s and 3s are putting together a much more promising debut than our 1s. It’s a long season. My only question is how do we cram all this RB talent onto the roster/field?! Would hate to lose any of them!