Babernakle

To put this simple this is like people having a pit bull in a fenced yard (Garrett) and the neighborhood snot nose kid (mason) picking and poking the dog.  Well the dog bits.  You don’t kill the dog.  You punish the kid and the dog accordingly. 

1 hour ago, Vagitron said:

The contact before the helmet drag was incidental. People acting like Rudolph gave him the karate kid. His hand was also stuck to the under portion of Garrett's helmet. Myles than proceeded to drag him across the field. Anyone surprised that Rudolph would have more to say is either a beta male or never played competitive sports. Garrett hit him with the padded side of the helmet. If he had hit him with the harder portion it would have split his head. A helmet weighs 6 pounds a fucking brick weighs 5. Anyone defending garrett is a dip shit asshole. Period 

I am an asshole but you sir are the dipshit. First and foremost this has happened before. The suspension was two preseason games and one regular season game.  Once again the nfl  levying harsher penalties against the browns. Which is b.s. but what’s new.  So now that’s out of the way let’s take this step by step.  First Garrett takes down mason it was not late it was not dirty. Mason preceded to say something and tried to rip his helmet off.  Then Garrett retires the favor.  At this point it would be personal fouls and probably a fine.  De Castro pulls Garrett away and all would have be done.  Then at this point mason thinks it would be a good ideal to re- engage.  So right here is where he should have a suspension.  One game unless they were both given one for the helmets earlier then two games.  After re-engaging Garrett mason proceeded to sucker punch Garrett while he is tied up with de Castro and Garrett drops the hammer.  My opinion mason got what he deserved, But a suspension is warranted for  Garrett of three games which is the penalty handed out for this in fraction before.  And that takes us to pouncy which I. This case the nfl got it right at three game which is what Garrett should have.  And finally ogunjobi pushes mason which was stupid but did not warrant a suspension a fine maybe but honestly just a penalty.  Now you have the talking head saying this is a bad look for the nfl well I’m sorry to tell the bad look for the nfl is the bias they show to other teams such as the pats stillers ravens and Green Bay so ask you self of the rolls were reversed do you think the media would be out for blood or would they be calling baker and instigator. 

Not to anyone’s surprise the media is all over the browns.  This was just what they were waiting for.  The browns struggling they loved but now they are all in.  So not only are they saying the browns are undisciplined but now they are saying they are teaching this culture.  Even though the penalties have drop significantly over the past three games. Now not only is this a lie but to me warrants a lawsuit.  So now they are going to push this narrative to disrupt and form decent in the locker room.  Which for what ever reason they get off on. So as with the political media they are spreading lies and not presenting the fact, which they don’t know. What we do know 

1. Mason started the fight. 

2. Mason grabbed his face Mask first

3. After the two were separated mason re-engaged garrett

4. Mason punches Garrett in the balls before the swing

5. After the hit pouncy comes in lands 6 punches and a kick.

6. After the game Freddie said Garrett told him what mason said but could not repeat it.  

13 minutes ago, jrb12711 said:

An open hand shot to the helmet is not the same and you know it. Hell, if I dug hard enough I bet you could find that happening 2-3 in this game alone. Freddie said after the game Garrett told what Mason said and that it wasn't able to be repeated.

You don't do what Garrett did unprovoked. Rudolph was a known douche at OK State. I'm not going to say he said or didn't say anything, I don't know. But given how that shit went down, I'm not going to be surprised at all if it turns out he dropped a slur.

Oh that pretty much a get out of jail free card these days 

26 minutes ago, Vagitron said:

Watch the play again. Rudolph's glove is stuck in some part of Garrett's helmet. I'm sure he was pissed to be taken down but he was also trying to get his hand unstuck. Emotions run high for all of us so it looks malicious but there are Browns fans on my board saying the same thing. Rudolph had his hand stuck. Garrett is going to get more than 6 dude unless they take the "rest of the season" approach as enough. It was assault.

It’s not assault that’s dumb and even if it’s was Ohio has stand your ground laws and mason re-engaged him 

Ok now that this has had a night to settle here is my break down.  One yes the hit was a little late, but he pulled him down slow nothing hard.  They mason gets mad cause he has thrown 4 picks and lost the game try’s to pulls his helmet off.  So as is always goes Garrett grabs his and yanks it off.  At this point it would have been penalties and been done.  Then mason kicks Garrett In The dick and de Castro grabs Garrett and pulls him off.  At this point the fight is done, but then mason re-engages Garrett and he swings.  Yeah I feel is was bad and stupid but not the worst I’ve seen two game is fair.  But the pouncy comes and in and throw 6 punches and kicks him while he’s on the ground.  They all need two games and move on 

1 hour ago, The Gipper said:

Really? Have not seen the game other than to see that those fucksticks are leading going into the second half. 

When you watch the high lights you’ll puke.  Shitsburgh “scores a td” clearly knee hits out of bounds before the foot.  Geoff fumbles clearly a forward pass, then on the reture Fitzpatrick turns and waves clearly taunting not called.  Then late in the game clear pass interference in the end zone not called.  Typical shitsburgh game how anyone can watch that shit and say the nfl is not in on it Idk

Nfl actively helping shitsburgh this is fucking disgusting 

In other news looks like shitsburghs shit house Luck is running thin scoop and score for the rams

1 minute ago, tiamat63 said:

Warming up those "Tua was hurt" already .   

Well he was.  He’s a mobile qb,  he’s not a runner per say,  but it’s a big part of his passing game.  And that threat to run sucks those dbs up.  

The bills are not a scary team.  In reality we should beat them handily.  But.... do we beat are selves as usual.  

Bama won’t drop but 1 or 2 spots.  They lost but put up 41 with toa at 70% and hadn’t played in three weeks.  Not to mention the illegal touching that changed the whole game. 

It’s his first year relax, on top of all the shit he deals with he’s got dumbshits saying he needs fired and he’s fighting the refs every Sunday. 

The problem is plan to see.  To use a golf  analogy,  Baker and Fred are pressing.  Last year there was no pressure and they didn’t know what they had and Fred was just a play caller. Now bakers has expectations. Fred is running the show.  So they have dialed back the big plays for “safe” plays and it’s back fired bad.

Never happen the NFL has always and will continue to protect the ravens and the Steelers did you watch the game last night or did you watch Cameron Heyward damn near end Jacoby  brissett  career because they won’t call  Hands to the face on the Steeler.   Same shit different day the only teams that are going to win are the teams who is the owners are on the select committee that picks the commissioner no surprise all of them teams have went deep into the playoffs and or one Super Bowl’s in the past 10 years 

57 minutes ago, Kvoethe said:

Relax Les Nessman...there is no conspiracy.

So we’re i live it’s mostly beagle fans and shitsburgh fans and they see it.  Monday’s have became man they screwed they browns this week again.  They all see it they all agree that there is something to it.  Bad breads bad.  There young kids and don’t know how to over come this.  You say something enough time over time and it becomes true.  

With all the bullshit calls, the clear reviews not being correct,  the constant badgering of Baker.  It’s finally broke the team just what the nfl wanted.  It’s clear very clear there is a all out war being waged against the browns.  No energy on the team now it’s not fun now just what the nfl wanted.  Here comes another coaching change. Just what the nfl wanted the punching bag of the nfl it started game one right where they left off last year.  Fuck the nfl,  fuck Rodger.  

Season over 

Throw the god dam ball deep 

So that saw an illegal use of hands but missed the two holds 

Christ between the shit that was pulled today on the colts and the bullshit that was done to the Seahawks last week and the same shit we deal with every week the nfl is definitely against us

Why was that not two runs with chubb

12 minutes ago, dawg2fan said:

If you have all this talent, you shouldn't hire a newbie coach.  And don't tell me we don't, because we do.  You hire a coach that was only an OC for half the season last year.  Yes, the team is not discipline, but again who is that on?  We had 18 penalty in the first game against the Titans.  While it getting a little better, just not good enough.  Other coaches can't wait to play us because they know Freddie is inexperienced.  We have one of the worst Olines in football, but a good coach should be able to coach around that.  Ask Baker (when he's by himself) if Freddie is getting that done.  He's been pounded by this horrific Oline and now he's timid in the pockek.  How many losses do you think Bill Belichek would have with this team at this point?  

Depending on weather kraft has been blowing Rodger 

Shut the fuck up with this shit it’s been 7 games he’s not the problem 

What the fuck are any of you talking about this is not Freddie’s fault this is not the players fault this is 100 percent on the nfl and refs.  Bad play calls going to happen bad picks fumbles yep going to happen but when the team your playing doesn’t get called for any foul and every time you start to get I. The game the refs cut you down with a tic tak call yeah it’s deflating and crushing it like pushing a wagon up hill and you can see it and I dear anyone to say this was a fairly called game.  What a fucking joke fuck the pats fuck the nfl fuck roger I hope it all comes out and they get put in the pen and get ass fucked the rest of the lives