Jax

Then they can revert back to the old standard like we're trying to do lol.

Imagine being so dense as to not comprehend a countries conviction to it's culture and traditions.

Just like the lefty dumbasses, anyone who doesn't think like them are some form of racist or some type of -phobe.

Not everything revolves around financial gains, especially at the expense of losing your countries identity and security. Dumbass cult

How embarrassing, dipshit calling Japan names.

Noem should visit Gaza and put them down.

26 minutes ago, hammertime said:

then there’s a piece of shit like yourself… what have you ever done in your miserable life for anybody?  What have you contributed to society?

i promise you have no moral high ground on anybody.

 

yet you willingly accept everything fed into your demented narrative, no matter what the evidence is.  You refuse to even consider the possibility that you’re wrong on anything.

we are all wrong on things, no one is perfect.

Thats why you and the rest of your simp pals are never taken seriously.  You’re laughed at and looked at like circus show behind glass.

He makes me laugh cause he's gotta be one of the most miserable people I know. I love miserable people like him.

I need perspective, where is all the bloat in defense spending?

2 minutes ago, VaporTrail said:

Not all aspects of government have as big of a budget as our astronomical(ly bloated) defense spending. 

Interesting, can you post some numbers in comparison. Not arguing, just curious.

1 hour ago, MLD Woody said:

It seems like she's really trying to play into the "real America" "not your typical politician" angle. She probably planned on getting backlash from this story so she can pivot and go "see, liberals make America weak! They can't handle a real American leader that can do what needs done!"

All BS. I'm sure it's a facade she's trying to build up. Typical of a lot of a MAGA reps that try to play up a background and upbringing they didn't experience much at all. They need to pretend they understand the every man. 

 

I still think it's bs she shot a puppy acting like a puppy cuz she couldn't train it. She wasn't dependent on this dog to survive. It was a hobby / sport. 

Not everyone plays and pretends from behind a keyboard.

Your dumbass cult leader lies about everything so it's no wonder you think the world works that way.

1 hour ago, MLD Woody said:

https://time.com/6909636/gaza-death-toll/

 

Oh, now you're referncing something that is trying to prove Hamas is correct because of science...

"The first shock was the number of people killed in Israel—1,200 in a day, Oct. 7. But in the months since, the world has been taken aback by the number of deaths reported out of Gaza: 30,000 through the end of February. Because the death count is compiled by the local Ministry of Health (MOH), an agency controlled by Hamas, which governs Gaza, the tally has been subject to skepticism. Israel’s U.N. ambassador and online pundits have purported that the numbers are exaggerated or, as a recent article in Tablet alleged, simply faked.

Actually, the numbers are likely conservative. The science is extremely clear."

2 hours ago, VaporTrail said:

Disappear? No. Get knocked down quite a few notches? Yes. 
Rein in spending. 
Clarify what the mission is to justify spending rather than being the world police who "protect and promote democracy." 
Unfortunately for us, as demonstrated in Ukraine and the Middle East, we can't just simply spend dollars to achieve our geopolitical objectives. 
We should still be able to field a blue water navy. 
We have two gigantic moats in the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans. We have more guns than we do people. The Ohio/Mississippi/Missouri River Valley is the biggest breadbasket on the planet. No foreign nation is going to successfully invade and occupy our homeland. We are relatively insulated against a lot of the upcoming upheaval that EU, Middle East, and Southeast Asia are going to experience. 

We can say that about all aspects of gov't, especially transparency and justifying.

Meanwhile, this newscaster thinks he works at WWE.

Here is where woody gets his info, other than college protest signs.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-01-17-24/h_257bdc236b13560cf82166ffb89b8a22

At least 10,600 children have been killed in Israeli attacks in Gaza since October 7, the Hamas-run Ministry of Health said on Tuesday. 

11 hours ago, VaporTrail said:

Clearly a conspiracy theorist

I don't want to debate theories here as I'm waiting for Woody to answer any of my previous questions but just because it's a conspiracy theory doesn't make it false or untrue. I state over and over how politicians are corrupt. However, it's still a theory unless you have proof that's accepted and someone is doing something about it on an official level or has even been prosecuted.

For a different topic, would you like to see our military complex disappear? Again, we agree there is corruption but I also believe we need our military might. Maybe the world will settle down when Trump gets back in office but imagine Biden stealing another election. This world is fucked, not just us.

Good grief he's all over the place now, it'll take a bit to decipher this if I have time to waste.

54 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

It's pretty pathetic multiple posters have nothing better than "you support hamas" after repeatedly, clearly stating that's not the case. 

Their brains can't comprehend anything other than blind support for Israel. I mean, lack of critical thinking really infects most of your viewpoints so no surprise there i guess. 

Seeing the world outside of black and white is impossible for some of you.

 

 

If you want to support Israel's genocide in Gaza then go for it. At least have the balls to call it what it is. 

There's nothing but Hamas in gaza, let that sink in. They may not all be fighters but they all support what they're doing.

Also, it's not blind support for Israel if that makes you feel better though it changes nothing.

No ones calling for genocide and Israel is not committing genocide. As stated, this is war, it ends with complete surrender or when Israel has taken control of gaza.

Unless Israel decides to withdrawal for whatever reason. I support Israel in this knowing the history and given recent events. Why don't you grow a set of balls and call gaza for what it really is?

No go ahead and complete the playback loop of how it's Israels fault Hamas exists and that all of Gaza hates them. You can't back that statement up, but even if true, then Israel needs to destroy the monster it created or it will keep coming back. It's all moot, and something your entitlement crowd needs to understand is Hamas and those people make their own choices. They choose to be terrorists and commit crimes against humanity. They are responsible for their actions and only them. But you don't get to make that claim, do you know why? The acts they committed wasn't of a poor, impoverished people craving peace and freedom from their oppressors, it was hate fueled terrorist actions looking to merely murder a race of jews. What they did was far worse as they couldn't even control themselves. They represent gaza and when they dragged mutilated bodies through their streets the 'civilians' were all out cheering. Israel could have already obliterated gaza if they wanted, and if they wanted to commit genocide they would have done it quickly while the world was still in shock over what hamas had done.

You can't even get the history right and you accuse us for lacking critical thinking skills. Come on man, do better. Educate yourself and come back with some real insights. Just be honest and truthful.

Re-educate because Hamas indoctrinates them into terrorists. FYI, it's not little house on the prairie over there.

Good job explaining yourself as always.

Vomit a bunch of bullshit...

You didn't show me any proof, zero.

It's war, they aren't purposely killing civilians, if there are any. Again, would you let a terrorist state continually raid your country because all you're worried about are civilians that may get killed? We didn't worry about civilians in Japan, or Germany when we bombed the living hell out of them. We didn't worry about civilians in the desert either. You glossed over the facts and truth and stuck to your protest sign education.

An is that how you met your essay quota of words? I wrote it cause it's fact. You cry about the most silly things.

Again, why do you justify the crimes against humanity that Hamas/Palestine committed by your 'perceived' notion that Israel treats them 'poorly'? In your logic, maybe Israel treats them poorly because they are always trying to kill and exterminate them.

Explain that they aren't innocent angels to all the families that died, got raped, tortured, mutilated killed and dragged through the streets of a celebrating Gaza. You keep justifying Hamas by Israels so called oppression, you are quite despicable.

You also didn't explain why Israel should supply Palestine with all the goods they need. I'll chalk that up to entitlement mentality.

2 hours ago, Flugel said:

The 4th play from the end of this video was my fave.  Check out the lead blocker.  I think he woke up on Gilligan's Island...

That was the first time I've seen a guy tackled by throwing his blocker clean into him like that 🤣

30 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

And if you asked most posters here they'd tell you Israel has never done anything wrong, they support and provide Gaza everything they could ever want, and are perfectly innocent little angels in every way

Source: IDF

BTW, I think he just soundly proved your point FY...unbelievable.

25 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

And if you asked most posters here they'd tell you Israel has never done anything wrong, they support and provide Gaza everything they could ever want, and are perfectly innocent little angels in every way

Source: IDF

What are you trying to say here?

So because you 'think' Israel did something wrong it justifies Hamas's crimes against humanity?

Are you saying Israel is also responsible for providing Gaza with things they want? WTF?

Israel doesn't owe Gaza anything, damn dude. They should thank and pay Israel tribute for allowing them to exist and own the land they do. Brush up on your history, real history, not college protest signs.

32 minutes ago, Vambo said:

Funny stuff for sure, but take a step back a second. How bad is it when the President of the United States is so rightfully mocked. I don't just mean Joe but I always considered him a sidekick when he was vp. I thought it would be a joke if he ran for president, but that's all we have in our system and he 'somehow' won. This guy absolutely deserves no respect and that's a shame for our country.

45 minutes ago, MLD Woody said:

After how many civilian / child murders in Gaza will everything be ok cal? Is there a magic genocide number?

 

Hamas did some horrific shit and they deserve a response. But this just didn't happen out of no where. Israel has been attacking and treating Palestine like shit for decades. 

 

But you'll just consume whatever the IDF let's out and your mind isn't changing. Wrong side of history is kind of your calling card at this point. 

Maybe after they surrender?

How many nuclear bombs were we going to drop on Japan?

How many bombs did we drop on all the desert campaigns?

How many civilians died during all our 'surgical' strikes? Obama took out a number of innocents.

War has a purpose, not just death. War came to them, it's not just about revenge. When would you stop if you lived in Israel on the Gaza border? Living the history, lived through oct 7th and knowing they still have hostages and are still very much active and still celebrating emboldening them to do it again? I would keep attacking until I'd have total surrender, where all arms are confiscated and I'd have total control of the land. Only to dedicate the time to squash uprisings until the next generations are re-educated. Otherwise, it's total annihilation. That's because I think Gaza is a pit of hating culture that only knows terrorism and to destroy their enemy at any cost. Their 'kids' are brainwashed and indoctrinated into hating jews and everyone else. You can't fix that and they are no longer innocent because that was already taken from them. Unfortunately, any good there is over whelmed by terrorism. If you'd like to prove me wrong then by all means go visit and bring me back some video of all the good people.

This war shouldn't end until Israel has their complete surrender or until Israel feels they can safely withdrawal and have peace.

You make fun of Cal for consuming IDF propaganda because it's the easy way to debate. But whose propaganda are you consuming? Hamas? Kids on college campuses who don't know what gender they are? There is definitive proof of history here and you just literally disregarded it all.

You mentioned IDF propaganda, so please enlighten us all as to what proof you have of this. Exactly why shouldn't we trust most of what they say? I say most because it'd be foolish to trust anyone 100%, but surely you have some good intel here you can share.

Also curious, this wasn't your homeland that was invaded and people/family/neighbors/citizens tortured, murdered, raped, mutilated or taken hostage, men, women, teens, children and babies. So tell me what gives you the right to decide what kind of response this deserves?