bjh2130 Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 According to mcshay (which holds no water to me) are now looking more at mccoy then then suh. Does this mean he may drop to us or maybe berry. Just thought it was interesting. Don't have espn insider anyone care to post his new mock? edit for link http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/ins...%3fid%3d4901957 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Browns Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 The Rams have a poor track record when it comes to drafting defensive linemen early, and now they have a tough choice to make between the stronger, more instinctive Ndamukong Suh and the quicker, more disruptive McCoy. Coach Steve Spagnuolo is looking for defensive linemen who can penetrate, which is why we think McCoy could be the top overall pick. Detroit LionsRecord: 2-14 Ndamukong Suh, DT, NebraskaThe Lions will gladly take Suh here. He won't provide the pass-rush production of McCoy, but he is a force versus the run and he consistently disrupts passing windows thanks to his excellent instincts and long arms. Tampa Bay BuccaneersRecord: 3-13 Jason Pierre-Paul*, DE, South FloridaThe Bucs will consider Tennessee S Eric Berry here, but they are in dire need of a speed rusher and Pierre-Paul is the most explosive one this draft class has to offer. Washington RedskinsRecord: 4-12 Anthony Davis*, OT, RutgersOklahoma QB Sam Bradford has enough physical and mental tools to develop into a good NFL starter eventually. However, he also enters the league with enough question marks (shoulder injury, spread offensive system, etc.) for a team like the Redskins to pass and fill one of several other holes. Solidifying its offensive line should be Washington's top priority, and Davis is the most naturally gifted tackle in this year's deep group. Two other options at tackle are Russell Okung (Oklahoma State) and Bryan Bulaga (Iowa). Kansas City ChiefsRecord: 4-12 Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma StateBerry could make a huge impact in the Chiefs' secondary as well, but Kansas City has too much work still to do at core positions to spend No. 5 money on a safety. The offensive line needs to be solidified, and that could happen by bringing in Okung, who has a quick first step, good power and a mean streak. Seattle SeahawksRecord: 5-11 Bryan Bulaga*, OT, IowaLook for Seattle to pass on a quarterback in the top 10 for the second straight year. Finding a replacement for Walter Jones at left tackle is the more immediate need, and the team will get a safer prospect there than at quarterback. Bulaga still has room to improve in pass protection, but he displays the feet and balance to develop into a very good overall starting left tackle in the NFL. Cleveland BrownsRecord: 5-11 Eric Berry*, S, TennesseeOklahoma State WR Dez Bryant will be tough to pass up here, but the Browns did spend a pair of second-round picks on WRs Brian Robiskie and Mohamed Massaquoi last year. Berry has the talent and experience to make the kind of impact for the Browns that perennial Pro Bowler Ed Reed made for the Ravens early in his career. Oakland RaidersRecord: 5-11 Trent Williams, OT, OklahomaConsidering the team has used high draft picks on a quarterback (JaMarcus Russell), running back (Darren McFadden) and wide receiver (Darrius Heyward-Bey) in recent years, it would make sense to shift the focus to the offensive line this April. Both of the Raiders' starting offensive tackles (Mario Henderson and Cornell Green) are below average, and Williams has the physical tools and toughness to provide an upgrade at one of those two spots immediately. Buffalo BillsRecord: 6-11 Sam Bradford*, QB, OklahomaOffensive tackle and quarterback are chief among the Bills' needs, and they should draft a tackle if Davis, Okung or Bulaga is available. This scenario has them selecting the top quarterback prospect in the 2010 class, though. Bradford is a bit of a project because of his slight frame and the spread system he played in at Oklahoma, but he has the football intelligence and accuracy to be molded into a good starter in the NFL. Jacksonville Jaguars**Record: 7-9 Derrick Morgan*, DE, Georgia TechMorgan will not wow scouts with his results at the combine, but he is a high-motor, technically sound player who can pressure the quarterback and set the edge against the run. He has the physical tools to develop into a good every-down starter at the next level. Denver Broncos** (from 7-9 Chicago)Record: 6-7 Dez Bryant*, WR, Oklahoma StateDenver still has needs along its offensive and defensive fronts as well as in the secondary, but it will be tough to pass on the clear-cut No. 1 wideout in this year's class should Bryant fall to the Broncos. Miami DolphinsRecord: 7-9 Rolando McClain*, ILB, AlabamaBryant falling to No. 12 would be a dream scenario for the Dolphins, but if he is off the board, look for Miami to target a top talent in the defensive front seven. McClain is NFL-ready with the size, straight-line speed and work ethic to win a starting inside linebacker job immediately. San Francisco 49ersRecord: 8-8 Joe Haden*, CB, FloridaThe 49ers could go in several directions with this pick, including quarterback, offensive line or a pass-rusher, but they wouldn't go wrong taking a top-10 skill player like Haden at this spot. Seattle Seahawks (from 8-8 Denver)Record: 5-11 C.J. Spiller, RB, ClemsonNotre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen might be a possibility here, but we do not believe he's worthy of a first-round selection. After finding a left tackle at No. 6, it would make sense for the Seahawks to use this pick on a difference-maker like Spiller. Running backs generally are not worth drafting this high, but Spiller has additional value due to his home run ability as a receiver and return man. New York GiantsRecord: 8-8 Brian Price*, DT, UCLAThe Giants need to retool the middle of their defense, and Price would be a good player to start with. He possesses the quickness and power to develop into a disruptive playmaker who can get into opposing backfields. San Francisco** (from 8-8 Carolina)Record: 8-8 Mike Iupati, OT/G, IdahoIupati is a fast-rising guard/right tackle prospect who is strong and nasty and would fit in nicely with coach Mike Singletary's hard-nosed brand of football. Tennessee Titans**Record: 8-8 Carlos Dunlap*, DE, FloridaDunlap is a bit immature and there are questions about his work ethic, but he also possesses a rare combination of size and athleticism for a defensive end. The Titans have enough veteran leadership on that side of the ball to pull the trigger here on a developmental project like Dunlap. Pittsburgh SteelersRecord: 9-7 Dan Williams, NT, TennesseeThe Steelers would like to use this pick on a top offensive line prospect like Iupati or Trent Williams, but with both off the board, they will avoid reaching for another offensive lineman. They also will avoid stretching for a tackle like Maryland's Bruce Campbell to go for value with Dan Williams, who has the size and strength to develop into the eventual replacement for NT Casey Hampton, who is set to become a free agent. Atlanta Falcons**Record: 9-7 Kareem Jackson*, CB, AlabamaThe Falcons need to improve their secondary talent after getting shredded through the air this past season. Jackson is one of the most underrated prospects in the 2010 class, and has the size, agility and balance to hold up in bump-and-run coverage on the perimeter. Plus, Jackson's instincts and technique are outstanding, so he should be ready to play as a rookie despite leaving school a year early. Houston Texans**Record: 9-7 Earl Thomas*, S, TexasThomas is undersized but physical enough to play safety in the NFL if used properly. Regardless, he's one of the three most talented defensive backs in the 2010 class, and the Texans could use an upgrade at both free safety and cornerback, so Thomas is a fit no matter where he ends up playing. Cincinnati BengalsRecord:10-6 Jermaine Gresham, TE, OklahomaThe Bengals are likely to use an early-round selection on a tight end, and while Gresham is a risk due to knee injuries (torn left ACL in high school, season-ending cartilage damage to right knee in 2009), his combination of size and athleticism is rare and he can stretch the seam effectively. New England PatriotsRecord: 10-6 Brandon Graham, OLB, MichiganGraham is a bit undersized to play a traditional defensive end role, and he does not have the ideal athleticism you want in an outside linebacker. If used properly, though, Graham can excel in the NFL, and he appears to be in Bill Belichick's wheelhouse with his nonstop motor, excellent technique and good overall football intelligence. Green Bay PackersRecord: 11-5 Bruce Campbell*, OT, MarylandCampbell will turn some heads with his performance at the combine. However, while he might have the best combination of physical tools in this year's offensive tackle class, we expect Campbell to slip to the bottom half of the first round due to injury concerns and below-average technique. Philadelphia EaglesRecord: 11-5 Taylor Mays, S, USCThe Eagles need a replacement for the physical presence former defensive leader Brian Dawkins took with him when he left for Denver. Mays is a bit of a liability in deep coverage and he needs to learn to wrap up more consistently as a tackler, but it is hard to imagine a player with his combination of size, straight-line speed and explosive hitting falling out of the first round. Baltimore RavensRecord: 9-7 Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise StateWilson is a fast-rising prospect after showcasing his upper-echelon bump-and-run coverage skills at the Senior Bowl. A cornerback-needy team like the Ravens could easily pull the trigger on Wilson late in the first round. Arizona CardinalsRecord: 10-6 Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, TexasKindle is a bit overrated, but we do think he is worth a pick at this point in the first round. The Cardinals could put him to work as a situational edge rusher early in his career while he works on getting bigger and stronger in order to hold up better versus the run. Dallas CowboysRecord: 11-5 Nate Allen, S, South FloridaAllen is far from a first-round lock, but the Cowboys need to improve their athleticism at safety, and Allen has the right combination of speed and fluidity in coverage to help fix the problem. San Diego ChargersRecord: 13-3 Jahvid Best*, RB, CaliforniaBest's draft stock could take a big hit depending on how the medical reports (back/neck, concussion) from the combine look. Assuming he checks out, Best likely will be high on the Chargers' board, along with Dan Williams, fellow RBs Ryan Mathews (Fresno State) and Jonathan Dwyer (Georgia Tech), and DT/DE Jared Odrick (Penn State). A healthy Best gets the nod thanks to his game-breaking speed. New York JetsRecord: 9-7 Arrelious Benn*, WR, IllinoisThe Jets need perimeter weapons for QB Mark Sanchez to throw to, and Benn is a better prospect than his 2009 production might indicate. He played through a nagging ankle injury and his quarterback was inconsistent, but Benn shows good initial burst and the ability to generate yards after the catch. Still, he needs to be more consistent catching the ball away from his body and must become a more savvy route runner. Minnesota VikingsRecord: 12-4 Jared Odrick, DT, Penn StateThe Vikings have proved they will take the best player available on the board, and in this scenario, Odrick fits the bill and would be groomed as an eventual replacement for aging DT Pat Williams. Other possibilities include Clausen, ILB Brandon Spikes (Florida), TE Anthony McCoy (USC) and C/G Maurkice Pouncey (Florida). Indianapolis ColtsRecord: 14-2 Maurkice Pouncey*, OL, FloridaOdrick would make sense if he was still on the board, or the Colts could reach for an athletic offensive tackle like USC's Charles Brown. But Pouncey is a gifted interior lineman with the quick feet, versatility and football intelligence to help the Colts solidify their interior offensive line. New Orleans SaintsRecord: 13-3 Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, MissouriWeatherspoon is expected to turn some heads at the combine with his speed, and we're hearing that some teams grade him out as a mid-first-round pick. We're not quite as high on Weatherspoon because we question his ability to play in space, but the Super Bowl champs are expected to focus on upgrading the speed and athleticism of their defense, and Weatherspoon fits the mold. * Denotes underclassmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CribbsWalker Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Yikes, is Mcshay a Browns/Lions fan? Ill give him one thing, he definitely was thinking outside of the box with this Mock... things never go the way most mocks have them in the actual draft so I guess its a different perspective. Personally I think this is ridiculous but hey, to each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBrent Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Wow, that is an interesting take on the draft. If you would have told me he had Berry slipping to seven I would have thought two teams picked QB's. He has 6 OL/DL going ahead of the rest. In general though, with the exception of QB's, lineman do go highest in most years. I would love Berry that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampadawgs Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 No way Tampa takes Pierri-Pauk from USF, live in Tampa and its all about Berry, even thou Paul is a beast for USF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I'll be delighted with Haden, McClain or Berry. I'm assuming Berry won't be there, and if Haden IS there, he's the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I'd love to have a bunch of whatever this guy is smoking. There's no way in hell four OTs are going to get picked in the first eight slots, never has happened, never will. Even Okung is somewhat of a reach there. He's got Taylor Mays way too high, and it's a near certainty the Steelers will go OL in the first to try and avoid getting Ben prematurely killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoth Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 McShay just throws things against the wall to see what sticks, and then goes back to his 500 mock drafts so he can claim he predicted everything. Kiper is the guy to pay attention to. Forget his draft placements, his scouting reports are second to none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatBrownsFan13 Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 I agree that Berry probably wont drop that far but I've still got my fingers crossed that he does, he is easily the player I want the most out of this draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 According to mcshay (which holds no water to me) are now looking more at mccoy then then suh. Does this mean he may drop to us or maybe berry. Just thought it was interesting. Don't have espn insider anyone care to post his new mock? edit for link http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/ins...%3fid%3d4901957 I don't care whether Berry falls to the Browns or not. I don't want him. But Suh on the other hand, I'd nab up in a heart beat... But what makes you think that if Berry were to go in the top 6, that just because the Rams pick McCoy that Berry would fall to 7? The thing is, that McCoy, Berry, and Suh are all likely to go in the top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 To 4Browns, just out of curiosity, who are "we"? Do you have a mouse in your pocket helping you with your picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBrent Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 To 4Browns, just out of curiosity, who are "we"? Do you have a mouse in your pocket helping you with your picks? I think that is at the top of the article he posted meaning "Todd McShay and Scouts Inc." thinks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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