OOPS

[Chicopee John]

National Flood Insurance Expired Sunday, Right Before Epic Rainfall

 

The Hartford Courant 11:44 a.m. EDT, March 31, 2010

 

 

 

Rivers are overflowing, basements are filling up with water and the National Flood Insurance Program expired Sunday.

 

Standard homeowner's insurance policies do not cover flooding that pours into a house from the outside. In order to get coverage, some property owners buy into the federal government's National Flood Insurance Program. But the program was up for renewal, which the U.S. Senate did not do before its Easter break.

 

That means mortgages that require the homeowner to have flood insurance are on hold, and those who need to renew their policies aren't able to do so. It won't effect those who currently have insurance through the program and need to file a claim after this week's rain.

 

"Payments for claims on existing policies will not be impacted; such policies will continue uninterrupted," said Brad Carroll, press secretary for the Federal Emergency Management Agency which oversees the program.

 

The U.S. Senate could vote to continue the program when they reconvene starting April 12.

 

Copyright © 2010, The Hartford Courant

 

 

 

 

 

[calfoxwc]

Oops? LOL

 

That is really despicable,.... and a tragedy for those who lost all their belongings.

 

always better to live on higher ground.

[heckofajobbrownie]

This should be a fun test. Yes, flood insurance wasn't renewed. And guess who blocked it from being renewed? Republicans.

 

Flood insurance was part of the same bill that featured unemployment insurance. That bill was being blocked by Jim Bunning, a Republican, and is now being blocked by Tom Coburn, also a Republican. Democrats were unanimous in their desire to pass the extension.

 

So John suggested that maybe this was caused by Democrats celebrating the health care victory, and that they simply forgot to do this. Obviously not true. Then Cal chimed in that this was "really despicable" and a "tragedy" and laughed at the Democrats.

 

"Oops" is right.

 

So is it still "despicable" now that you know the Republicans blocked this extension, while every single Democrat wanted to pass it?

 

I won't hold my breath waiting for a correction.

[Chicopee John]

Jeez, Heck, is it your time of the month.

 

I posted this days ago and you can see for yourself, the dearth of responses. Like a feather falling in the middle of the forest.

 

 

Have a nice Easter.

 

 

PS Why should anybody ask that an expense be paid for - even from yet-to-be spent 'stimulous' funds? THAT would be irrecponsible

[Mr. T]

Cheez heck, the democrats have the majority and have just shown us they will do as they please.

 

So you can only blame your beloved party of progressives who ignored this.

[heckofajobbrownie]

Like I said, it would be a fun test. Predictable, but fun.

 

When it turns out the Republicans put a hold on this bill (something T clearly doesn't understand, but what does he?) and that it's Republican Senators who have allowed flood insurance to lapse right at the time when many are going to need it, not one of you says, "Oh, my bad."

 

Instead, we get "this is an old thread" and T's inability to understand the basic rules of our democracy.

 

It's a wonderfully honest board.

[Chicopee John]

Like I said, it would be a fun test. Predictable, but fun.

 

When it turns out the Republicans put a hold on this bill (something T clearly doesn't understand, but what does he?) and that it's Republican Senators who have allowed flood insurance to lapse right at the time when many are going to need it, not one of you says, "Oh, my bad."

 

Instead, we get "this is an old thread" and T's inability to understand the basic rules of our democracy.

 

It's a wonderfully honest board.

 

What was the Browns' record last year, Heck? Was it, Team 5-11? Defense 9-7? Offense 1-15?

 

You, my friend, are more predictable than the sun coming up every morning.

 

[VaporTrail]

What was the Browns' record last year, Heck? Was it, Team 5-11? Defense 9-7? Offense 1-15?

 

You, my friend, are more predictable than the sun coming up every morning.

 

Looking at this thread, he called you out on your criticism of him with a valid point, and you respond with this, completely ignoring what he brought up because you posted it a few days ago, and then this. Then, cal and T thank you for it!

 

This place is such a circle jerk.

[heckofajobbrownie]

John, I'm sure somewhere in your responses about how this thread is a few days old, and "what was the Browns record last year", and how I must be having my period - you know, like bitches do! Yeah! - there's a brilliant retort to my points. But I can't see it. Maybe it's me.

 

[Mr. T]

we have a president and democratic congressmen who are coming out and saying they dont give a crap about the constitution and when something goes haywire they blame it on republicans.

 

Are you guys for real? Or are you paid hacks?

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Looking at this thread, he called you out on your criticism of him with a valid point, and you respond with this, completely ignoring what he brought up because you posted it a few days ago, and then this. Then, cal and T thank you for it!

 

This place is such a circle jerk.

 

 

Heck is a HACK.

[heckofajobbrownie]

See just how wrong you were, Vapor?

[Westside Steve]

Haven't followed it.

 

 

So the dem majority isn't quite large enough as yet?

 

WSS

[heckofajobbrownie]

No, it's not. You've got 58, Scott Brown, and Joe Lieberman. But that's not really the point if you understand how holds work in the Senate.

 

You can't vote on a bill if you don't have a motion to proceed, which requires unanimous consent. If someone wants to put a hold on a bill, all they have to do is object to the motion to proceed. So that's what Bunning did. And then Coburn did it too. That's what a "hold" is. So no vote before the Easter recess, because it can take days to overcome a hold even if you do have the 60 votes, which the Democrats don't, at least not on their own.

 

So this is how we know the Republicans blocked the extension of flood insurance. Maybe Coburn would have thought twice about it if he'd known half of New England would be under water.

 

But don't let me stop you guys from blaming it on Democrats. Against all evidence to the contrary. Even when corrected. Even when you're obviously wrong.

 

You know, like a shithead would.

[Westside Steve]

No, it's not. You've got 58, Scott Brown, and Joe Lieberman. But that's not really the point if you understand how holds work in the Senate.

 

You can't vote on a bill if you don't have a motion to proceed, which requires unanimous consent. If someone wants to put a hold on a bill, all they have to do is object to the motion to proceed. So that's what Bunning did. And then Coburn did it too. That's what a "hold" is. So no vote before the Easter recess, because it can take days to overcome a hold even if you do have the 60 votes, which the Democrats don't, at least not on their own.

 

So this is how we know the Republicans blocked the extension of flood insurance. Maybe Coburn would have thought twice about it if he'd known half of New England would be under water.

 

But don't let me stop you guys from blaming it on Democrats. Against all evidence to the contrary. Even when corrected. Even when you're obviously wrong.

 

You know, like a shithead would.

 

 

Me??

Hey I didn't hear we were back to needing a 60 vote majority again.

 

 

Anyway I'm surprised Obama didn't stop the flood.

Hey maybe it wasn't "paid for."

WSS

[heckofajobbrownie]

No, not you. I'm talking to the people who had it exactly backwards, but are content living in the place where they have it exactly backwards. And then accusing the guy who has it right of being a hack. Also, up is down.

 

As for you, I've always enjoyed it when you (and many others) make up a false premise - "You think Obama is the messiah!" - and then make jokes based on the premise you made up.

 

Which, again, is why conservative comedy never works. No one understands/agrees with your premise.

[Westside Steve]

No, not you. I'm talking to the people who had it exactly backwards, but are content living in the place where they have it backwards.

 

As for you, I've always enjoyed it when you (and many others) make up a false premise - "You think Obama is the messiah!" - and then make jokes based on the premise you made up.

 

Which, again, is why conservative comedy never works. No one understands/agrees with your premise.

 

 

Yeah conservative humor is kind of sparse. But the half hour laff riot lends itself better to the college crowd. "Dude did you see Stewart? I nearly spewed!!" school of thought.

 

Then again you gotta admit the ooh aah over Obama is way more widespresad than "Newt Gingrich Mmm mmm mmm."

 

 

WSS

[VaporTrail]

Yeah conservative humor is kind of sparse. But the half hour laff riot lends itself better to the college crowd. "Dude did you see Stewart? I nearly spewed!!" school of thought.

 

Then again you gotta admit the ooh aah over Obama is way more widespresad than "Newt Gingrich Mmm mmm mmm."

 

 

WSS

 

 

Yuck.

[heckofajobbrownie]

Well, more than Newt Gingrich, sure. Nobody loves Newt Gingrich. That's like saying your favorite food is bark. But the idea that there are lots of liberals out there who worship Obama and would follow everything he says is a conservative creation. There really aren't. It's just something you guys tell yourselves, and you all agree, because you all tell yourselves.

 

Which is why when you bring it up in mixed company the rest of us say, "Huh? We do?" Which is why it doesn't work as the premise of a joke. Except in the fever swamp.

 

And it's even more ridiculous when you consider that it's coming from a party that can't get through a speech, conference, or a debate without some overwrought paean to Ronald Reagan, Greatest American Hero Ever.

 

But yes, Steve, after eight years of the Bush administration many Americans were downright delighted to find an articulate and charismatic leader who shared their ideas about the direction in which the country should move. A sizable majority of them, in fact.

 

 

[Chicopee John]

Well, more than Newt Gingrich, sure. Nobody loves Newt Gingrich. That's like saying your favorite food is bark. But the idea that there are lots of liberals out there who worship Obama and would follow everything he says is a conservative creation. There really aren't. It's just something you guys tell yourselves, and you all agree, because you all tell yourselves.

 

 

There ARE a lot of liberals out there who worship Obama and would follow everythi8ng he says".

 

Just for clarification, do "African Americans" fall under the "liberal" umbrella?

 

 

PS Nobody cared about this until Heck started having a hissey fit about it. Two posts and no more interest. However, Heck, like xxxx, cannot handle dissenting views - even when he manufactures a conclusion.

 

I said "Congress", not, "Democrats".

 

Petty and sad, Heck.

 

 

 

[VaporTrail]

There ARE a lot of liberals out there who worship Obama and would follow everythi8ng he says".

 

Likewise, there are people out there that worship glenn beck and rush limbaugh and follow everything they say.

 

All of the above are idiots that can't think for themselves.

[heckofajobbrownie]

There ARE a lot of liberals out there who worship Obama and would follow everythi8ng he says".

 

Just for clarification, do "African Americans" fall under the "liberal" umbrella?

 

 

PS Nobody cared about this until Heck started having a hissey fit about it. Two posts and no more interest. However, Heck, like xxxx, cannot handle dissenting views - even when he manufactures a conclusion.

 

I said "Congress", not, "Democrats".

 

Petty and sad, Heck.

 

So you'd like us to believe that the title of this thread, "OOPS: Too Much Celebration After Health Care Vote" referred to Democrats AND Republicans? Are you kidding? Not a single Republican voted for the health care bill. Why would they be celebrating its passage?

 

Clearly, you meant this as a swipe at Democrats. Which is fine. Except that you didn't know the facts. It was Republicans who blocked the bill. So it's a bit embarrassing for you.

 

But now you're just making it worse. Obviously, you can't handle being wrong. You have to try and make up some other explanation, and hope we'll all buy it. Except that we're not 12 years old, and we don't.

 

As for the dissenting views bit, you had your facts 180 degrees wrong, man. I'm not dissenting from your view. Reality is.

 

Just admit you thought the Democrats forgot to or didn't care to do the flood insurance bill, but it turns out they were all set to renew it when it was put on hold by one, and then another Republican Senator.

 

Why is that so hard for you?

 

[Westside Steve]

There ARE a lot of liberals out there who worship Obama and would follow everythi8ng he says".

 

Likewise, there are people out there that worship glenn beck and rush limbaugh and follow everything they say.

 

All of the above are idiots that can't think for themselves.

 

 

You'll have to post me some videos of classrooms and other large groups singing of the glory of Beck.

 

You dems are just gonna have to eat that one.

Sure every otspoken politico and president has his supporters but face facts it seems to go over the top with Obama's acolytes.

 

More than before.

 

WSS

[DieHardBrownsFan]

They're blind to their own worship of Obammy. They don't recognize it. Pitiful, just pitiful.

[Westside Steve]

Well, more than Newt Gingrich, sure. Nobody loves Newt Gingrich. That's like saying your favorite food is bark. But the idea that there are lots of liberals out there who worship Obama and would follow everything he says is a conservative creation. There really aren't. It's just something you guys tell yourselves, and you all agree, because you all tell yourselves.

 

Me???

 

Newt is on my short list of guys I'd like to see in the white house..

 

Which is why when you bring it up in mixed company the rest of us say, "Huh? We do?" Which is why it doesn't work as the premise of a joke. Except in the fever swamp.

 

The "fever swamp" is whoever taught those kids that song. Agree? The "fever swamp" is the (I missed her name, congress dame I think) who railed about those who'd dare to call "Our first Black president" arrogant.

There's a big tent over the fever swamp.

 

And it's even more ridiculous when you consider that it's coming from a party that can't get through a speech, conference, or a debate without some overwrought paean to Ronald Reagan, Greatest American Hero Ever.

 

Or bleating about the [projected] surplus and the halcyon days under Bill Clinton.

 

Plus your guys still gabble about Reagan being the devil.

 

But yes, Steve, after eight years of the Bush administration many Americans were downright delighted to find an articulate and charismatic leader who shared their ideas about the direction in which the country should move. A sizable majority of them, in fact.

 

Heh.

Actually I think the great unwashed heard the endless Bush hate litany for so long they just voted for the other guy. Happens all the time.

There are few (some walk among us!!) I hear who [support] each and every move he makes.

 

 

But back to the humor you remember Dan Quayle and Jerry Ford?

I've seen some funny enough lists of Dems faux pas but they never got the national spotlight over and over and ....

Loke you heard from the left end of the swamp.

 

WSS

[heckofajobbrownie]

This discussion is going to put me back to sleep. Have a nice Easter.

[Westside Steve]

This discussion is going to put me back to sleep. Have a nice Easter.

 

 

And a happy Spring Holiday to you.

 

WSS

[Chicopee John]

I was wrong, Heck. Wasn't the first time and won't be the last.

 

No big deal to me, Heck. You should try it sometime.