peterbell Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Below is a quote from Joe Haden in reference to his Head Coach..NOUGH SAID “I would say Coach Mangini is a really good dude that cares about his players and he just wants people that work hard, are trustworthy, and he wants people that are working for a common goal.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyalty Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Mangini had a couple flashes of excitement last year. I really wish he had a more active sideline persona. Otherwise, I believe all the things Haden said - I just don't know that the total team is what the Franchise needs to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 I just don't know that the total team is what the Franchise needs to win. Please elaborate on this. By itself, this statement doesn't make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyalty Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Please elaborate on this. By itself, this statement doesn't make much sense. Sorry, I guess my point is that the team as a whole is not a perennial playoff team. It is a solid group of decent veterans that will serve more as a stop-gap squad that will win a fair amount of games. The Franchise needs a team of players that will grow in the league as Browns from the draft. Not to say this will be quick, it will be something Holmgren will have to do over the next 3-4 years. My point is that smart drafting will be the only thing that makes this team into a franchise. Hope that makes more sense. The way I put it last time sounded a lil like Yogi Berra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaak Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Sorry, I guess my point is that the team as a whole is not a perennial playoff team. It is a solid group of decent veterans that will serve more as a stop-gap squad that will win a fair amount of games. The Franchise needs a team of players that will grow in the league as Browns from the draft. Not to say this will be quick, it will be something Holmgren will have to do over the next 3-4 years. My point is that smart drafting will be the only thing that makes this team into a franchise. Hope that makes more sense. The way I put it last time sounded a lil like Yogi Berra. I can agree with that. Although I think we are starting just the foundation you are referring to with our WR's and O-Line (and now Secondary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyalty Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 I can agree with that. Although I think we are starting just the foundation you are referring to with our WR's and O-Line (and now Secondary). I realllly hope you are right. I think we are missing a true speed threat at WR right now and hope we can find what Minnesota has in Percy Harvin or what Philly has with DeSean Jackson. I would personally rank the right side of our O-Line as one of the top priorities next year. It seems like the guys we have there now get smacked in the face every time out. I am very nervous about having a rookie start at SS and Nickel - but I hope they prove to be as good as their highlight videos. Cleveland needs players that will be loyal to the city and the fans - Cribbs and Joe Thomas really come to mind as stand up guys... They are leaders on and off the field. If the defense can find someone like we had with Clay Matthews back in the day - a guy that embodied the working spirit of Cleveland I would LOVE that direction for the team. (I am pulling for the Browns to find a way to get Mark Herzlisch from Boston College. The guy is effing INTENSE.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Joe Haden NOT Joe Hayden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyalty Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Joe Haden NOT Joe Hayden I was hoping someone else would make this point.... I hate being the proof-reader. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Below is a quote from Joe Hayden in reference to his Head Coach..NOUGH SAID “I would say Coach Mangini is a really good dude that cares about his players and he just wants people that work hard, are trustworthy, and he wants people that are working for a common goal.” He's a rookie. Is he really going to say something detrimental about Mangini? I'm also not implying that Mangini is bad but a endorsement from a rookie CB is hardly a endorsement anyone would parade at the forefront of the "keep Mangini parade" "Nough said" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 He's a rookie. Is he really going to say something detrimental about Mangini? I'm also not implying that Mangini is bad but a endorsement from a rookie CB is hardly a endorsement anyone would parade at the forefront of the "keep Mangini parade" "Nough said" The "keep Mangini" parade was led by Mike Holmgren. You want to argue with his credentials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 The "keep Mangini" parade was led by Mike Holmgren. You want to argue with his credentials? I thought a specifically stated that I wasn't saying Mangini is bad. However I could care less about the fat walrus. Let me know when he's done crying. My point was/is a Haden endorsement is hardly a endorsement at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 I thought a specifically stated that I wasn't saying Mangini is bad. However I could care less about the fat walrus. Let me know when he's done crying. My point was/is a Haden endorsement is hardly a endorsement at all. Maybe Joe Haden could care less what you think about his endoresement of Mangini than you care about his endorsement of Mangini. Joe Haden is in far better position to do the endorsing than you are certainly, even if he is a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Maybe Joe Haden could care less what you think about his endoresement of Mangini than you care about his endorsement of Mangini. Joe Haden is in far better position to do the endorsing than you are certainly, even if he is a rookie. Hey Gip that's not the point. Bottom line a rookie vying for playing time is NOT going to say something detrimental about his head coach. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraDawg Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Rookies should be seen not heard . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Hey Gip that's not the point. Bottom line a rookie vying for playing time is NOT going to say something detrimental about his head coach. Period. Sure, but then, he is not obligated to say anything nice about him either. Haden has some pretty good coaching in college, so if he says he likes Mangini's style, why would you not believe him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterbell Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 You think Joe gets more playing time if he talks nice about Mangini..please Its what he said thats important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagitron Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 You think Joe gets more playing time if he talks nice about Mangini..please Its what he said thats important. Did I say that? I just said he's not going to say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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