TheClevelandSound Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...head_coach.html BEREA -- Rams offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur has been named the Browns' fifth head coach since they returned as an expansion franchise in 1999. In doing so, Browns President Mike Holmgren is retracing the path which led him to his first NFL head coaching job in Green Bay 19 years ago. Shurmur was never a head coach at any level. But like Holmgren and his many eventual coaching proteges, Shurmur learned the NFL game as a quarterbacks coach and then as a coordinator in the pass-first offensive system now commonly referred to as the West Coast offense. Others who followed the path paved by Holmgren include Steve Mariucci, Andy Reid, Marty Mornhinweg and Brad Childress. Jon Gruden started as a receivers coach before ascending to coordinator and then head coach. Of those, only Mornhinweg failed to reached the playoffs as an NFL head coach. Shurmur, 45, never worked with Holmgren, but learned his offensive system under Reid in Philadelphia for 10 years -- the last seven as Eagles quarterbacks coach. For eight of those years, Browns General Manager Tom Heckert held various titles as the head of the Eagles' player personnel department. Shurmur's connections to Holmgren stretch farther. He is the nephew of the late Fritz Shurmur, who was Holmgren's defensive coordinator in Green Bay for five seasons in the 1990s. Shurmur also shares the same agent, Bob LaMonte, as Holmgren and Heckert and numerous other branches of the Holmgren coaching tree. Shurmur left the Eagles in 2009 to become coordinator in St. Louis under former Eagles defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo. They were members of Reid's initial coaching staff in Philadelphia in 1999. When Shurmur arrived in St. Louis, the Rams were coming off a 2-14 season and their offense ranked 27th. In 2009, they fell to 1-15 and the offense dipped to 29th. The arrival of quarterback Sam Bradford with the No. 1 choice in the 2010 draft had an instant impact. With Bradford starting every game, the Rams improved to 7-9 and their offensive ranking inched up to 26th. Like the Browns, the Rams were hampered by an inexperienced receiving corps after injuries wiped out veterans Donnie Avery and Mark Clayton. They were 26th in points with 289 -- five notches ahead of the Browns (31st), who had 271. The Rams' 21 giveaways were eight fewer than the Browns' 29. Shurmur received some criticism for play selection in the Rams' season-ending 16-6 loss to Seattle, which cost the Rams a spot in the playoffs as NFC West champion. In that game, Rams 1,200-yard running back Steve Jackson carried the ball only 11 times for 45 yards. He had only four rushing attempts in the second half. The Rams had seven possessions in the second half and none longer than six plays. Shurmur, a native of Dearborn, Mich., was a three-year starter at center for Michigan State University in the late 1980s. He returned to the school in 1990 to launch his coaching career and coached tight ends, special teams and assisted on the offensive line for a span of eight years. He worked under former Browns defensive coordinator Nick Saban the last five years. Shurmur moved to Stanford University in 1998 as offensive line coach before joining Reid in Philadelphia in 1999 as tight ends coach. Reid named Shurmur quarterbacks coach in 2002. In that role through 2009, he was position coach for Eagles quarterbacks Donovan McNabb, A.J. Feeley, Koy Detmer, Jeff Garcia, and Kevin Kolb. Shurmur is the first Browns head coach with purely an offensive background since Chris Palmer in 1999. He represents a final break from the Bill Belichick coaching tree, which spawned the Browns' last two coaches, Eric Mangini and Romeo Crennel. When he launched the search to replace Mangini, Holmgren tipped off his intentions when he said, "I can get real excited about finding a young guy and having him take the ball and go with it." Holmgren also said it would be "a pretty wide search ... we're not limiting ourselves in any way." But only three candidates were formally interviewed. Shurmur was the first, following by Falcons offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey and Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell. Former Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh turned down the Browns' invitation for an interview before he accepted the 49ers head coach job. Also, Gruden, who was considered a hot candidate before the search began because of his history with Holmgren, never was interviewed and said he would return to the ESPN announcing booth in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdawg2010 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Just heard breaking news on WKNR, Pat Shurmur hired as coach of the Cleveland Browns. I'm still not sure I like this pick. I guess we will see. The "rebuild" continues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdawg2010 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Thanks for merging my thread with this one. I think I added mine just as this one went up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Shurmur....worked under former Browns defensive coordinator Nick Saban the last five years. Shurmur is the first Browns head coach with purely an offensive background since Chris Palmer in 1999. He represents a final break from the Bill Belichick coaching tree, which spawned the Browns' last two coaches, Eric Mangini and Romeo Crennel. Uh, if Shurmur worked for so long under Nick Saban I think it CAN be fair to say that he is also a member of the Bill Belichick "coaching tree"....as Saban of course was the DC here with Belichick for the 5 years BB was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nw220 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 And so it began, lets see what the guy has give him a chance and look foward to adding some much needed pieces in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 How about this then, biblical style: Paul Brown begat: ...Bill Walsh who begat: ......Mike Holmgren who begat: .........Andy Reid who begat: ............Pat Shurmur. So? Is Shurmur just a matter of bringing it all home to the shores of Lake Erie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 How about this then, biblical style: Paul Brown begat: ...Bill Walsh who begat: ......Mike Holmgren who begat: .........Andy Reid who begat: ............Pat Shurmur. So? Is Shurmur just a matter of bringing it all home to the shores of Lake Erie? i like your style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Im more interested in who pat will choose for his trusty sidekick coordinators because that overall is more telling of his ability to coach this team... There is so little about shurmur so few headlines just celebrating rams fans glad to be rid of him, they should make their way to the board soon to give us their condolences as many are apologetic that we got him as a HC, many dont think he was ready to be an OC and cant believe he is now a HC. I dont care much for spags and i know how his system works so we gotta give coach shumur the benefit of doubt here...hehehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Browns Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 He has two years to get us in the Superbowl or it's on to the next guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownIndian Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 My Reaction: WTF !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbackbrownie2 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Is there going to be a press conference? I would like to see what Shurmur has to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepwrite Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I like it a lot. It basically signals that the Browns are going to be Holmgren's team... and Holmgren is the prized pupil of my favorite coach of all time, Bill Walsh. In the WCO Mafia, Shurmur is the next guy up. My gut says if not for two years helping to turn around a truly busted franchise, if he were coming off 10 years with the Eagles and 7 as the QB coach, we'd like the pick. That's how Mariucci became the Niners head coach, right? From Green Bay QB coach to SF head coach. I'm sure we'll see an OC from that tree, maybe Bevell. Not sure if we'll keep Ryan and the 3-4 (my preference) or go all in and hire John Fox to overhaul it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Is there going to be a press conference? I would like to see what Shurmur has to say... tomorrow 11:30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterbell Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 It barely got mentioned on Sportscenter..like a basketball score..Rebuilding..Rebuilding..He has less then 24 months to get to the play offs right. Thats what the last guy got and he started from ground zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepwrite Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Dustin Fox makes the Harbaugh/Tomlin connection without naming them: http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x174523428...ns-headquarters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATENEARS Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 The only thing that I don't like hearing about this is that "Shurmur also shares the same agent, Bob LaMonte, as Holmgren and Heckert and numerous other branches of the Holmgren coaching tree." I don't like that Holmgren limits ALL of his searches to within his agents client list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 welcome pat. let's not have any negative "this guy sucks and he will fail" comments. give the guy a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgTracker Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 And so it began, lets see what the guy has give him a chance and look foward to adding some much needed pieces in the draft He has all of the tools necessary to win now or Mangini wouldn't have been fired for his number of wins. The wait is over playoffs this year easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdawg2010 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Is there going to be a press conference? I would like to see what Shurmur has to say... Yeah. Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Love it. WRREBELL is sitting in a dark corner weeping with a wine cooler, while holding an unused picture of Gruden with a hole cut out where his mouth is. Dustin Fox, who played for GlenOak and Ohio State, got to know Shurmur fairly well when he was with the Eagles a few years ago. “He was a really cool guy,” Fox said just before Shurmer was hired today. “The players liked him. All the quarterbacks really liked him.” Fox acknowledges that many of you wanted a rock star to be the next head coach, but he supposes Mike Holmgren knows what he is doing. “Big names don’t always get you wins,” Fox said. “Sometimes an up and comer could prove to be a great one.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepwrite Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Like that he's been a part of winning teams: http://cle.scout.com/2/1039251.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 thus began the homshert era? what about shmeckho? should we start a contest to name this new regime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Like that he's been a part of winning teams: http://cle.scout.com/2/1039251.html "Shurmur, 45, has spent 12 of his 23 seasons coaching football in the NFL. In those 12 seasons, the Browns said, Shurmur has been apart of teams that have qualified for the playoffs seven times, won five divisions crowns and appeared in one Super Bowl." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I remember when I first joined 2 years ago when Mangini got fired someone started a thread of if they liked the hire or not. No debating, no name calling and no shoulda woulda couldas. The question is: Do you like the hire? Plain and simple. Please answer yes or no only. My answer is yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 The only thing that I don't like hearing about this is that "Shurmur also shares the same agent, Bob LaMonte, as Holmgren and Heckert and numerous other branches of the Holmgren coaching tree." I don't like that Holmgren limits ALL of his searches to within his agents client list. Thanks for pointing that out Ate- I saw that tidbit on Cleveland.com too. The whole front office is Lamonte clients. LOL, any players that have Bob as their agent? Now as to that coaching tree, several notable busts- Mooch and Childress. So I'll give Shurmur a 40% chance of success. I'm from Missouri, so SHOW ME Pat before I claim this to be good or bad for the Browns. And I'm not buying the "in Holmgren we trust" mantra. Heard it before, and it didn't work too well with another GM. How about some first rate offensive and defensive coordinators for a change? Look what KC did with Weiss and Crennell. Fox is fine if he doesn't land a head coaching gig. McDaniels is probably out because he falls off the Bilichick tree. PS do I like the hire? Neutral- ask me how I like the hire next January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Thanks for pointing that out Ate- I saw that tidbit on Cleveland.com too. The whole front office is Lamonte clients. LOL, any players that have Bob as their agent? Now as to that coaching tree, several notable busts- Mooch and Childress. So I'll give Shurmur a 40% chance of success. I'm from Missouri, so SHOW ME Pat before I claim this to be good or bad for the Browns. And I'm not buying the "in Holmgren we trust" mantra. Heard it before, and it didn't work too well with another GM. How about some first rate offensive and defensive coordinators for a change? Look what KC did with Weiss and Crennell. Fox is fine if he doesn't land a head coaching gig. McDaniels is probably out because he falls off the Bilichick tree. PS do I like the hire? Neutral- ask me how I like the hire next January. Some of LaMonte's clients include: Mike Holmgren (Cleveland Browns President) Brad Childress (Former Minnesota Vikings Head Coach) John Fox (Carolina Panthers Head Coach) Josh McDaniels (Former Denver Broncos Head Coach) Andy Reid (Philadelphia Eagles Head Coach/Executive VP) Mike Singletary (Former San Francisco 49ers Head Coach) Steve Spagnuolo (St. Louis Rams Head Coach) Mike Sherman (Texas A&M Aggies football Head Coach) Charlie Weis (Kansas City Chiefs Offensive Coordinator) Mike Martz (Chicago Bears Offensive Coordinator) Mike Nolan (Miami Dolphins Defensive Coordinator) Al Saunders (Baltimore Ravens Offensive Consultant) Gunther Cunningham (Detroit Lions Defensive Coordinator) Leslie Frazier (Minnesota Vikings Head Coach) Mike Heimerdinger (Tennessee Titans Offensive Coordinator) Mike McCoy (Denver Broncos Offensive Coordinator) Marty Mornhinweg (Philadelphia Eagles Offensive Coordinator) Pat Shurmur (Cleveland Browns Head Coach) Tom Heckert (Cleveland Browns General Manager) Chris Polian (Indianapolis Colts General Manager) Mark Dominik (Tampa Bay Buccaneers General Manager) Rick Smith (Houston Texans General Manager) Chris Carpenter (St. Louis Cardinals Pitcher) Pat Hentgen (Former Toronto Blue Jays Pitcher) Dave Steib (Former Toronto Blue Jays Pitcher) Joe Nedney (San Francisco 49ers Placekicker) Jon Gruden (ESPN Analyst for Monday Night Football) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Some of LaMonte's clients include: Mike Holmgren (Cleveland Browns President) Brad Childress (Former Minnesota Vikings Head Coach) John Fox (Carolina Panthers Head Coach) Josh McDaniels (Former Denver Broncos Head Coach) Andy Reid (Philadelphia Eagles Head Coach/Executive VP) Mike Singletary (Former San Francisco 49ers Head Coach) Steve Spagnuolo (St. Louis Rams Head Coach) Mike Sherman (Texas A&M Aggies football Head Coach) Charlie Weis (Kansas City Chiefs Offensive Coordinator) Mike Martz (Chicago Bears Offensive Coordinator) Mike Nolan (Miami Dolphins Defensive Coordinator) Al Saunders (Baltimore Ravens Offensive Consultant) Gunther Cunningham (Detroit Lions Defensive Coordinator) Leslie Frazier (Minnesota Vikings Head Coach) Mike Heimerdinger (Tennessee Titans Offensive Coordinator) Mike McCoy (Denver Broncos Offensive Coordinator) Marty Mornhinweg (Philadelphia Eagles Offensive Coordinator) Pat Shurmur (Cleveland Browns Head Coach) Tom Heckert (Cleveland Browns General Manager) Chris Polian (Indianapolis Colts General Manager) Mark Dominik (Tampa Bay Buccaneers General Manager) Rick Smith (Houston Texans General Manager) Chris Carpenter (St. Louis Cardinals Pitcher) Pat Hentgen (Former Toronto Blue Jays Pitcher) Dave Steib (Former Toronto Blue Jays Pitcher) Joe Nedney (San Francisco 49ers Placekicker) Jon Gruden (ESPN Analyst for Monday Night Football) Who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Who cares. Someone asked so I gave them the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosar_For_President Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I remember when I first joined 2 years ago when Mangini got fired someone started a thread of if they liked the hire or not. No debating, no name calling and no shoulda woulda couldas. The question is: Do you like the hire? Plain and simple. Please answer yes or no only. My answer is yes. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 more season Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 The question is: Do you like the hire? Plain and simple. Please answer yes or no only. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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