1 more season Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Mangini on Sportsnation playing the "one number game" I've got a number for you .413 your career winning percentage as a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Mangini on Sportsnation playing the "one number game" I've got a number for you .413 your career winning percentage as a HC. Mangini should have been given another year, so what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsane Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 I loved what he had to say when he came here and history seemed in his favor. He may know his shit, but I tell you, the guy seems like a total hack of a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 more season Posted August 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Mangini should have been given another year, so what is your point? He is a terrible coach and should not have been given a second year w/ the Browns let alone a 3rd. Why would THE sports leader hire him as an analyst with a sub .500 rec as HC. That's my point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 You're a dumb ass. He improved this team. We should have won at least 4-5 more games. But it is meaningless now. So piss off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Keeping Mangini set our franchise back a year. He should have been fired the year before.. Gee im glad we kept 11 lbs cause he had his little favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 more season Posted August 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 You're a dumb ass. He improved this team. We should have won at least 4-5 more games. But it is meaningless now. So piss off. A personal attack really? OK, F U then. Woulda, coulda, shoulda bottom line he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USFBrown Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 Mangini had a good theory that never came to fruition. He was building the team the Belicheck way and it would have taken some time. Compared to the Crennel years (minus the one year fluke), he was at least getting us in the right direction. It may not have been as fast as some wanted, but I think he real downfall was keeping that dumb ass Daboll as OC. Mangini knows football well, is articulate, and smart. Just because the guy didn't have a winning record doesn't mean he should never be involved with football again. Hell, they hired Matt Millen who was a plague upon the Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshutchins Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 I don't know if Mangini was a terrible coach or not. I do know that I liked some of the things he did while he was in Cleveland. He was right about the need for a change of culture and he took steps to right the ship in that regard. I also seem to recall that he had the expectation that every player would understand every aspect of a play and the players were held accountable for that knowledge. I think that was also a step in the right direction as part of the change in culture. I think he laid the foundation for the team's future and made Shurmur's job infinitely easier. I can appreciate those things about his tenure in Cleveland even though there were also things I wasn't happy about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 I don't know if Mangini was a terrible coach or not. I do know that I liked some of the things he did while he was in Cleveland. He was right about the need for a change of culture and he took steps to right the ship in that regard. I also seem to recall that he had the expectation that every player would understand every aspect of a play and the players were held accountable for that knowledge. I think that was also a step in the right direction as part of the change in culture. I think he laid the foundation for the team's future and made Shurmur's job infinitely easier. I can appreciate those things about his tenure in Cleveland even though there were also things I wasn't happy about. That's how I feel about him and I've seen him on a couple of shows and he seems to me to be pretty good at it. He has some opinions and isn't afraid to share them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 The sky is blue, water is wet, women have secrets. Who gives a f#ck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 The sky is blue, water is wet, women have secrets. Who gives a f#ck? Holy shit, I'm in agreeance with REBEL. The world is coming to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Haha no it isn't coming to an end. As much as we love to hate each other on here, bottom line we both love the browns and want to see them win. I think some times I take out my frustration on here cause I'm sick of losing and some times I do it for entertainment. All in all, I think besides rich4eagle who isn't only a closet homo but steeler fan I would have fun tail gating with anyone from the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Haha no it isn't coming to an end. As much as we love to hate each other on here, bottom line we both love the browns and want to see them win. I think some times I take out my frustration on here cause I'm sick of losing and some times I do it for entertainment. All in all, I think besides rich4eagle who isn't only a closet homo but steeler fan I would have fun tail gating with anyone from the board. Well said. It's just gentle ribbing, is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Represent Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Eric went to a piss poor Jets team and made the correct moves to get them over for the future. Eric went to a piss poor Browns team and made the correct moves to get them over for the future. But we live in a bubble where you have 1-2 years reguardless of how bad a shape the team was truly in so Eric to me is just a casulty of war, but i think when he sat in the war room with heckert they put their heads together to bring in some great talent-also i believe Rob Ryan and some hand in evaluting Ward and Hayden as picks for his defensive scheme, just as i believe today Jauron had a hand in suggesting the big bodies we picked in the draft for his defensive scheme. All and all he is somewhere else but i didn't hate that guy i really thought he would've reaped the rewards this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 May have had more success with better personnel moves. Jayne Mitchell had no right coning here....th did the same shit savage did....bringing in players that didn't fit the system. This signifies to me they had no intention of giving mangini a real shot and set us back a year with the horse and pony show. Still think holmgren is a dumbass for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Eric Mangini is the NFL version of "the Cleaner". He cleaned up the Jets so that Rex Ryan could enter and turn them into contenders. He cleaned up the Browns so that Pat Shurmur could enter and turn them into contenders. He kicks out the riff raff, emphasizes the basics and gets the young guys to play the game the right way again. They ought to call him into Miami next, they need an enima. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 more season Posted August 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 After an initial 10-6 with the jets he went 4-12 then 9-7 then onto back to back 5-11's Talk about looking back through rose colored glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzadeliveryguy Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 After an initial 10-6 with the jets he went 4-12 then 9-7 then onto back to back 5-11's Talk about looking back through rose colored glasses. To be fair the back to back 5-11 seasons were after he jumped into pretty much the worst situation imaginable. Looking back at the QBs he had to work with I think a .413 winning percentage may be hall of fame worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzadeliveryguy Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 He is a terrible coach and should not have been given a second year w/ the Browns let alone a 3rd. Why would THE sports leader hire him as an analyst with a sub .500 rec as HC. That's my point! Why would they care what his record as a head coach is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 After an initial 10-6 with the jets he went 4-12 then 9-7 then onto back to back 5-11's Talk about looking back through rose colored glasses. crennel was a lousy HC but it didn't take him what, fifteen minutes to get hired as a DC? what about our new DC, jauron? what was his winning percentage as a head coach? how about charlie weiss at ND? i guess he's unemployed and kickin rocks in the street, huh? and these are only a few i can think of and they all came from the belicheck school of coaching (except jauron). BTW what was belickek's record with the browns? isn't he NOW considered one if not the best head coach in NFL history?? i guess it takes some time to build a team your way and it takes an owner to believe in you, not to undermine you by hiring a president/bobblehead to come in and pull the rug out from underneath you. just because these guys didn't have a winning record as a head coach i guess that means they are a complete dumbass in your mind. mangini has got more football knowledge in one of his farts than you have brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 more season Posted August 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Romeo and Charlie both went back to being coordinators. Some guys are just better suited for that. I'm just saying mangini is below .500 over a 5 yr. career. Would you go to a dentist that is below .500 in filling cavities? Probably not. What HC has been successful coming from the Belichick school? It could be argued that it's not the Bilichick tree as much as it is the Parcell's tree. I just don't like the guy as a coach, I don't think he is a very good HC. As a disciplinarian he's good but not as a winning coach. That's just my opinion!! His hiring was a mistake and further delayed that progress of this team. As far as I'm concerned I'm done with this thread. Good luck to the team tonight. I'm heading to Wrightsville Beach to try and catch some hurricane swell. Ohh, I didn't see this gem "mangini has got more football knowledge in one of his farts than you have brains. " well its a good thing that management has more football sense than you and the manginites mik or the Browns would be heading to 5-11 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempest25 Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 I dont think he should not have come back. My only reason is because of holmgren. Their two styles of football dont mesh. I think if our president was the tuna, than mangini would still be here and we would have a better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzadeliveryguy Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Would you go to a dentist that is below .500 in filling cavities? Probably not. How you going to argue with logic like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 How you going to argue with logic like this? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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